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Me I plan on just skipping the first marriage/divorce and cashing in on the second one
Are girlfriends expensive?
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Me I plan on just skipping the first marriage/divorce and cashing in on the second one
Have you ever even dated a woman?
Every woman has a sob story on how one of her boyfriends or husbands was/is an asshole.
You need to really get out more.
wow seriously? That's kind of messed up. Well, weird anyway.
How does that work? What's the reasoning behind it? Seems absurd, no?
I would rather have one or two regular SPs that I see, and probably buy them some gifts for them from time to time, rather than have a girlfriend. I've never been the relationship type of guy only because I don't really like to have someone completely involved in my life 24/7. Also, I've seen that most girls have serious problems with honesty and loyalty.
In the end, SPs are probably cheaper than girlfriends, and a better choice for us "free-flyers".
In the end, SPs are probably cheaper than girlfriends, and a better choice for us "free-flyers".
Hi Violet
The impression I got from you is that you're pretty bohemian in terms of lifestyle preferences. There are many such women here in Portland, and I'd have to agree that dating them is not expensive at all in terms of money. I think some of them do have the ambition to "scale up" their lifestyle in the future, even if their preferences aren't exactly mainstream. Buying a craftsman house or a flat in a hip neighborhood combined with some East Asian art and a Prius to drive is still expensive, even if it reveals a different cultural preference than a McMansion and an SUV. Still, that's never been a concern for me, as my relationships have never passed the six month mark. I haven't spent a ton of money on too many girls that I dated, excepting a few emotional/psychological wrecks who helped me rack up some "emergency" expenses.For me, dating and relationships have been far more expensive psychologically than they have been monetarily. I suppose I suck at it, and the process just doesn't agree very well with my mental makeup. I'm only semi-proficient at getting laid, and my experience is that dating while sex-starved is a disaster waiting to happen, as I have found myself willing to enter a relationship with a girl who is not a good match for me as a condition of having sex. Once I realize that I've done that (which takes a month or two), I have to find some way of breaking it off, which I feel guilty about and which stresses me out. Then there are the girls who I really want to have sex with, but who reject me after a couple of dates -- in all honesty, these girls are almost never good relationship matches, but I take such rejection pretty hard if I haven't had sex in six months. Missing out on such an opportunity can make me feel depressed for up to a week. Then there are the girls who I've gotten into "long" relationships with (namely 5-6 months) who I actually fell in love with, and those have usually ended with me getting stabbed in the back some how, followed by me being depressed about it for at least half the duration of the relationship itself.
In terms of costs to my mental state, pooning has been a lot cheaper for me personally. My friends notice how much happier I am. Regarding loneliness, which one person mentioned, I don't feel it. In the past, I've only felt lonely or depressed when trying to get into a relationship, when in a relationship, or when ending a relationship. I'm not sure which needs and desires a relationship fulfills that aren't already being fulfilled for me. I guess a relationship serves the purpose of giving you somebody to talk with, hang out with, and have sex with. I am getting all those needs met right now. I don't have sex with my male friends (or my female friends), and I might not get to hang out and chat with my female sex partners to the extent that I'd like -- the satisfaction of my desires is being distributed across a group of people, and it seems to be working out.
I could never do that polyamory thing though. What I'm doing right now works out because I don't have a deep attachment to any of the girls I'm sexing it up with, even if do like a number of them personally.
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its been a long time since i dated, never did much to be honest.
but just think you guys are looking at it wrong.
i mean i want to go to a movie do i want to go alone or do i want to go with a nice looking girl some one to talk to
its not about gee, i paid for this bitch movie and popcorn she had better put out
same thing i want to have a beer, if i get a nice looking women to join me its bonus right, and if she is not interesting or you can't find something to talk about well what are you doing with her, its not about will she put out.
just relax and enjoy it. and if your not enjoying well then keep moving.
like i said its been along time since i have dated, but there have been a few women who have showed some interest and i have chatted with them, seriously there are lots of lonely women out there, who just want company
isn't that what being single is about, i mean just finding some one to have some fun with so your not alone. not well how much money is it costing me in relation to how much she is putting out.
i think the focus on sex is wrong, i know like many young guys that is all they wanted was sex from a girl and well they got it as well as a kid, that they have to support for like the next eighteen years
one guy two kids two different women and both all of them are like fighting for child support and custody,
i felt like telling this guy, are you just fucking stupid, most guys learn to fight with a women about child support and custody and all that is enough but he has two different women he is fighting with,
seriously if i was single i wouldn't be here, then i would make dam sure no girl would get pregnant i would have codoms or get fixed. but then just have fun, and well, it wouldn't be will she put out.
i like to do things go hiking cycling etc, it would be about finding a women who enjoys what i do, so we can do it together,
there was a women i met a month a go she is into that ice sailing across frozen lakes, she invited me to join her, we actually had coffee together had fun several coffees she works in my building, we eenjoyed the converstaion, we even talked about sex. not does she put out or that just how important it is in life,
me seeing escorts well just said very little,
but fuck if i was single, you know where i would be zipping across a frozen lake blown by the wind.
im a cyclist and well every once in awhile you meet a women on the path who gives you more then just a causual nod.
i don't know being single would be fun, i was not really interested when i was younger to messed up with my idiot father being in jail and all of that.
sometimes i just don't get why a single guy is here like i said so, you crash and burn,
maybe there is a reason you crash and burn your a jerk
i mean seriously you single guys blame it all on the girls fault there fucking stuck up and bitches.
maybe its the guy that is a jerk, just a thought.
and well, maybe you got to work on being fit for humanity,
that is the thing about escorts, once they get there money there priorty is well do you like stink are you like five hundred pounds and going to crush me after that they pretty much don't care,
maybe your single and can't get a date for a reason. and you got to work on it.
just something to thing about
but i think its just wrong to blame all the stuck up bitches out there for your problems, i know alot of ass hole guys
but just think you guys are looking at it wrong.
i mean i want to go to a movie do i want to go alone or do i want to go with a nice looking girl some one to talk to
its not about gee, i paid for this bitch movie and popcorn she had better put out
same thing i want to have a beer, if i get a nice looking women to join me its bonus right, and if she is not interesting or you can't find something to talk about well what are you doing with her, its not about will she put out.
just relax and enjoy it. and if your not enjoying well then keep moving.
like i said its been along time since i have dated, but there have been a few women who have showed some interest and i have chatted with them, seriously there are lots of lonely women out there, who just want company
isn't that what being single is about, i mean just finding some one to have some fun with so your not alone. not well how much money is it costing me in relation to how much she is putting out.
i think the focus on sex is wrong, i know like many young guys that is all they wanted was sex from a girl and well they got it as well as a kid, that they have to support for like the next eighteen years
one guy two kids two different women and both all of them are like fighting for child support and custody,
i felt like telling this guy, are you just fucking stupid, most guys learn to fight with a women about child support and custody and all that is enough but he has two different women he is fighting with,
seriously if i was single i wouldn't be here, then i would make dam sure no girl would get pregnant i would have codoms or get fixed. but then just have fun, and well, it wouldn't be will she put out.
i like to do things go hiking cycling etc, it would be about finding a women who enjoys what i do, so we can do it together,
there was a women i met a month a go she is into that ice sailing across frozen lakes, she invited me to join her, we actually had coffee together had fun several coffees she works in my building, we eenjoyed the converstaion, we even talked about sex. not does she put out or that just how important it is in life,
me seeing escorts well just said very little,
but fuck if i was single, you know where i would be zipping across a frozen lake blown by the wind.
im a cyclist and well every once in awhile you meet a women on the path who gives you more then just a causual nod.
i don't know being single would be fun, i was not really interested when i was younger to messed up with my idiot father being in jail and all of that.
sometimes i just don't get why a single guy is here like i said so, you crash and burn,
maybe there is a reason you crash and burn your a jerk
i mean seriously you single guys blame it all on the girls fault there fucking stuck up and bitches.
maybe its the guy that is a jerk, just a thought.
and well, maybe you got to work on being fit for humanity,
that is the thing about escorts, once they get there money there priorty is well do you like stink are you like five hundred pounds and going to crush me after that they pretty much don't care,
maybe your single and can't get a date for a reason. and you got to work on it.
just something to thing about
but i think its just wrong to blame all the stuck up bitches out there for your problems, i know alot of ass hole guys
Wow, you ever hear about having male friends?
Why do you need to pay for a girl to go to a movie with you or talk to you?
Wow 7of9 you sure put me in my place.
I have been single all my life and it is not the ladies fault.
It is my fault.
I have always been a jerk will always be a jerk. I know that and the people around me know that and I understand I am not boy friend material or will ever be able to handle the relationship stuff.
I travel all the time and my work is my life. I am very much one dimensional. I am not exciting by any stretch of the imagination. No ice sailing or vacations or golf or stuff like that.
I know that I understand that and that is just who I am.
I have done the dating thing and I have paid for the dating experts to find the "one for me". Lord knows I tried.
I spent a shit load of money and it has always ended up in BS and tears and pain.
I done that I an't doing it anymore. I gave up on that a long time ago.
I do not blame the ladies for me being a jerk.
This hobby is what keeps me sane.
I get to have the lady I like in my arms when I want. I treat them well in exchange they treat me well.
It is not always about the sex it is about the time we spend together.
The SPs that I have been lucky to meet are real people with really lives and my time with them is just a snapshot in time. Like a photo.
Some cases I just want a beautiful lady to go for dinner with me. Sometime it is meeting me in NYC or Rome or Paris or LA. I do get lonely on the road. Rather than spending time in dating sites and trying to find the right lady who then expects things like a longer term relationship or wants money in a different way. Or my time.
A SP is a great alternative. So many of the ones in Vancouver have been good to me. Some I might even call friends.
I hate to eat alone so I will call up a SP I find interesting and for $200 an hour she will have dinner with me or go to a movie or go shopping with me or tour her town with me.
I pay her to be my friend.
If she gets me hot and I need more I pay the $300 an hour and well we get it on. If I want her to spend the night we work out a deal $1000 I got her all night. It is nice to wait up in the morning with a warm body next to mine.
So for me the SP is more than someone that I just fuck and move on. For me I like to spend time with them and get to know them and they know me and they fullfill my fantasies. For a few dollars that is not so bad.
As a single guy I don't have time for relationships and all the BS that comes with it. SP is the life for me. As they say no life like it.
I have been single all my life and it is not the ladies fault.
It is my fault.
I have always been a jerk will always be a jerk. I know that and the people around me know that and I understand I am not boy friend material or will ever be able to handle the relationship stuff.
I travel all the time and my work is my life. I am very much one dimensional. I am not exciting by any stretch of the imagination. No ice sailing or vacations or golf or stuff like that.
I know that I understand that and that is just who I am.
I have done the dating thing and I have paid for the dating experts to find the "one for me". Lord knows I tried.
I spent a shit load of money and it has always ended up in BS and tears and pain.
I done that I an't doing it anymore. I gave up on that a long time ago.
I do not blame the ladies for me being a jerk.
This hobby is what keeps me sane.
I get to have the lady I like in my arms when I want. I treat them well in exchange they treat me well.
It is not always about the sex it is about the time we spend together.
The SPs that I have been lucky to meet are real people with really lives and my time with them is just a snapshot in time. Like a photo.
Some cases I just want a beautiful lady to go for dinner with me. Sometime it is meeting me in NYC or Rome or Paris or LA. I do get lonely on the road. Rather than spending time in dating sites and trying to find the right lady who then expects things like a longer term relationship or wants money in a different way. Or my time.
A SP is a great alternative. So many of the ones in Vancouver have been good to me. Some I might even call friends.
I hate to eat alone so I will call up a SP I find interesting and for $200 an hour she will have dinner with me or go to a movie or go shopping with me or tour her town with me.
I pay her to be my friend.
If she gets me hot and I need more I pay the $300 an hour and well we get it on. If I want her to spend the night we work out a deal $1000 I got her all night. It is nice to wait up in the morning with a warm body next to mine.
So for me the SP is more than someone that I just fuck and move on. For me I like to spend time with them and get to know them and they know me and they fullfill my fantasies. For a few dollars that is not so bad.
As a single guy I don't have time for relationships and all the BS that comes with it. SP is the life for me. As they say no life like it.
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are girlfriends exspensive lol lol damn straight if you want to keep us happy and be happy .... theres that old saying HAPPY WIFE = HAPPY LIFE
Dam right!
Shyboy You are bang on with your statements. I have been there done that. Never work for me on the normal girl friend and you are right most SPs have a lot of baggage. I have my own bags to carry don't need more. I like to keep it simple. I am not that smart anyway. I must have went to the same character school. best to keep it a business relationship. What has been the longest relationship you have been in? Mine is 6 months real relationship and 8 years SP.
You got that right mark69. Once they got you they own you. Remember happy wife happy life! No where does it say anything about a happy husband. Why because there is no such animal. The SPs know the rules and it is a business arrangement. I agree total package the SP better deal. You call it off she does not get 50% of what you are worth.
funny didn't mean to put any one in there place sorry
every day we make choices lets be honest,
we are who we want to be.
i just don't get calling a bunch of girls bitches because you can't get a date.
its your life lead it how ever you want to. just don't run any one else down because you happen to make a choice,
it is just funny to me and amusing we tear some other person down to make our life seem better,
some women won't date me so she is this stuck up bitch
live your life no regrets no excuses and don't blame some one else for our problems.
and no one says you have to be married and have kids, and can't spend your money on escorts. you can live your life any way you want, just don't run some one else down because they live there life different
and about male friends, that is all i do all day long smooze with people males and females.
and i will take a happy fun women to hang out with any day ahead of a guy.
what are you guys gay
every day we make choices lets be honest,
we are who we want to be.
i just don't get calling a bunch of girls bitches because you can't get a date.
its your life lead it how ever you want to. just don't run any one else down because you happen to make a choice,
it is just funny to me and amusing we tear some other person down to make our life seem better,
some women won't date me so she is this stuck up bitch
live your life no regrets no excuses and don't blame some one else for our problems.
and no one says you have to be married and have kids, and can't spend your money on escorts. you can live your life any way you want, just don't run some one else down because they live there life different
and about male friends, that is all i do all day long smooze with people males and females.
and i will take a happy fun women to hang out with any day ahead of a guy.
what are you guys gay
Sorry 7of9 but I am not gay, not that there is anything wrong with being gay. I could never get into another guy. I have done the MFM and MMFM but I perfer FFM or FFFM.
I don't tell others how to run thier lives and no one tells me how to run my. I am single because of my choice. I agree that people always want what others have. Being single there are days when I wish I had a GF or wife. However there are married guy who wish they had what I have. If only we coud learn to be happy with what we have. It is not or bad it is what we make of it.
The question is which is more expensive af GF or SP. The answer I guess is that both are expensive and depends on how you define expensive. Money or all the other stuff. Personally I think GF are more expensive. But that is just me. For me it is the value. I don't spending if I get the value. I certainly do not want to be taken advantage of.
You might want to get a couple more GF's, before becoming jaded as some of us
Ferrari's are more exepnsive to get and keep than some GM car.
In terms of money, if you don't poon every day or every second day then no they're not more expensive. If you poon only once a month or twice a month then yeah they're more expensive(assuming they're giving you play time)
In terms of time, they're more expensive. If you don't put the time into it, then it's it's obviously not good on the relationship. With an escort the only time commitment you need is the time needed to find one, prepare for the session, commuting to the session, the session itself.
In terms of emotions hahah, whatever baggage you have to deal with day in and day out, now you've just inherited theirs. I don't know but baggage level has a weird correlation with how good they look.
Hook up with good looking escorts, but get a GF for personality
Are girlfriends more expensive than pooning? Depends....
but this is true almost 100% of the time:
Girlfriends have no idea how expensive they are.
In fact, some even think they are cheap when they are expensive. Most insulting is when they ask you where all your money went. And if you do start to itemize how much things have been costing, like dinners out, movies, trips, etc., they get pissed off and still don't believe that all the money was spent on them.
That's because unless a woman has a real career (ie: not an SP job) and has been fending for herself awhile, she thinks money grows on trees for men. Even then, those with real careers can be very expectant of being treated much of the time.
Now some women are smart and realistic, they know how expensive things can be and will go dutch with you and it won't "hurt" them as a female to do so. These are the real women, the others are just children.
but this is true almost 100% of the time:
Girlfriends have no idea how expensive they are.
In fact, some even think they are cheap when they are expensive. Most insulting is when they ask you where all your money went. And if you do start to itemize how much things have been costing, like dinners out, movies, trips, etc., they get pissed off and still don't believe that all the money was spent on them.
That's because unless a woman has a real career (ie: not an SP job) and has been fending for herself awhile, she thinks money grows on trees for men. Even then, those with real careers can be very expectant of being treated much of the time.
Now some women are smart and realistic, they know how expensive things can be and will go dutch with you and it won't "hurt" them as a female to do so. These are the real women, the others are just children.
Here I was thinking the great thing about dating an sp is that she would pay her own way. By date I mean not pay for sex, and still have her pay for herself when she goes out. I mean what the hell else are they doing with all the money they make.
