Are girlfriends expensive?

[luvsdaty]

Ha ha ha ha wine & dine is just the tip of the iceberg my young padewan.Mortgage payments/$2500 per month.Manni's, pedi's,hair appt's, daily starbucks fix. When the kids come a long,she isn't gonna be happy dressing the kid in walmart brand cloth's, juicy couture all the way baby.4 trips/yr to mexico costa rica,cuba,australia........it all costs money & they want it all. Forget about blow jobs once that ring is on her finger & your birthday will be a very special day,that'll be the 1 day a year when you'll be able to get your freak on.....
Don't get me wrong there's no greater feeling than when your in love, but it's just a 50/50 illusion.If i was to give everyone reading this post $1,000,000.oo to invest,would you invest it in something that only had a 50/50 chance of paying off? It's a terrific feeling when your in your teens/20's, but also devistating when the relationship breaks up.
But as you get older you get a little more realistic about it, some people call this jaded.If you don't wanna heed these words, heed Al Bundy's RUN BOY RUN!

 

[housedj69]

It can be expensive.... but honestly, being single and on the prowl isn't exactly cheap either. If you're content to bang girls that don't give a flying hootenany about you (on occasion) and play video games the rest of the time, them single life isn't very expensive. It's also lonely, missing out on having a real best friend and partner to experience the highs and lend support to the lows of life.

I agree with this 100%.

 

[violetblake]

Dating shouldn't really be that expensive. It's nice when a guy pays for the first few dates but after that I think it should be generally 50/50. Unless one person is making way more than the other, be it the guy or girl, then maybe they can pay a bit more of the time. But I guess it depends whether you're a couple to go out and pay money on dinners or other expensive things every single day, or just go for walks, cook dinner at home, that's all cheap or free.

Marriage on the other hand isn't cheap. But that's different than dating. If you have kids, and the wife decides to be a stay at home mom, then yeah you're paying for everything (but it's not like she's doing nothing! lol). And of course if you divorce and you were the one making all the money then yeah that's expensive for you. Being single and doing one night stands would definitely be expensive, but dating really shouldn't be.

 

[Horse99]

as mentioned earlier, drama has a big emotional cost......I have one g/f.....I have to listen to all her problems, most of which are self inflicted dramas of her own....then I have to convince her (again and again) that I am not sleeping with my step son's mom, btw, that relationship ended NINE years ago......and then maybe I get to go down on her...she never gives me blowjobs.....yeah, pooning has certain costs, but it can be much more on your terms if that's important to you.....and the older you get, it will be more important.

 

[87112]

Dating shouldn't really be that expensive. It's nice when a guy pays for the first few dates but after that I think it should be generally 50/50. Unless one person is making way more than the other, be it the guy or girl, then maybe they can pay a bit more of the time. But I guess it depends whether you're a couple to go out and pay money on dinners or other expensive things every single day, or just go for walks, cook dinner at home, that's all cheap or free.

Marriage on the other hand isn't cheap. But that's different than dating. If you have kids, and the wife decides to be a stay at home mom, then yeah you're paying for everything (but it's not like she's doing nothing! lol). And of course if you divorce and you were the one making all the money then yeah that's expensive for you. Being single and doing one night stands would definitely be expensive, but dating really shouldn't be.

This will probably work in white culture but for those dismal in distress China girls and Hong Kong women its more like 10/90 in their favor. Next time I encounter a Asian gal, I know what to do. Have my exit plan before they do and invest as little as possible to get the golddiggers hoes out.

 

[jesuschrist]

Dating shouldn't really be that expensive. It's nice when a guy pays for the first few dates but after that I think it should be generally 50/50. Unless one person is making way more than the other, be it the guy or girl, then maybe they can pay a bit more of the time. But I guess it depends whether you're a couple to go out and pay money on dinners or other expensive things every single day, or just go for walks, cook dinner at home, that's all cheap or free.

Marriage on the other hand isn't cheap. But that's different than dating. If you have kids, and the wife decides to be a stay at home mom, then yeah you're paying for everything (but it's not like she's doing nothing! lol). And of course if you divorce and you were the one making all the money then yeah that's expensive for you. Being single and doing one night stands would definitely be expensive, but dating really shouldn't be.

You'd be surprised how many women don't share your point of view regarding dating and sharing of expenses. Some women think the guy should always pay no matter how far along they are at if they are still dating.

In my vast experience with dating, I would say that dating can be very cheap or very expensive, but it mainly depends on the girl. Some girls won't settle for anything less than the man paying for everything, gifts at Valentine's day (on top of Xmas and birthdays), and little "surprises", whereas other girls feel bad that you are paying for everything, don't like to know you are wasting your money on gifts, etc.
What I want to stress is that whether or not dating is expensive really ENTIRELY depends on the girl's expectations and how she views you.

Pooning is totally under your control, even if you feel compelled to because of urges - you only have yourself to blame there.

Shacking up is entirely a different matter. It could even be as extreme as being with a high maintenance girl who, when shacked up, suddenly becomes one who is a total miser (yes, even with your money). It depends on her value system, and the family she grew up in.
Other girls who are not wealthy, who were cheap as dates, become very wasteful one they shack up because they suddenly think they have the means of keeping up with the Jones (with your money).

I disagree with many men that all women think that money is the top priority in choosing men. It simply is not true. The top priority is how the man makes her feel. For most women, they just want to know that the man is going to be able to support her to a satisfactory degree, and that usually means a middle class income.

 

[tantalizeme]

Is pooning cheaper? That depends...and good relationships have many rewards

So, why don't you find a girl who likes to give out rather than taking and taking from you.
In my very very humble opinion (wink wink), many Asian girls like giving, or even giving only.
In Japanese, they are called 尽くす女, literally means women who does everything for men.

Different guys adapt very differently to basic incompatibilities between men's and women's biologically driven life priorities.

For some men like myself, the best solution is to try juggling a romantic relationship with pooning adventures.

If I depended for the sex I'd like purely on SPs, I'd have gone broke many times over, especially given my love of overnight cuddling.

If I depended for the sex I'd like purely on a GF, she'd soon feel oversatiated, pressured, defensive—and "monogamous" sex has a vexing way of going stale.

This "juggling both" approach works best if your GF isn't the possessive type (I always take a new GF to swinger clubs early on) and doesn't hold you by the financial jugular (so no living-together or kids for me).

A romantic relationship has many rewards besides sex—e.g. affection, companionship, affirmation—that most men surely wouldn't want to miss out on. But I find it best to try negotiating an open relationship early on. If my partner isn't interested, I go ahead with my sexual agenda anyway, without compunction. She doesn't own my body.

Obviously, a desirable-looking lady who doesn't expect monogamy, marriage or at least cohabitation—and who pays her own way—is a treasure when you find her. That's admittedly pretty hopeless for a young guy.

But above a certain age, even desirable women—often divorced or widowed—may experience scarcity of romantic attention from the kind of older man they'd like to meet: unmarried, available emotionally and sexually, physically well-preserved and stably employed (I think accusing women of wanting only "rich" men is an exaggeration).

Based on my experience, I can't help agreeing heartily with Yoko Anna. Both with regards to pooning and relationships, I've found a strong tendency for Asian ladies to treat men just way nicer than Caucasian ladies, apart from often looking amazingly good for their age.

But even under the best circumstances, when you're in a romantic relationship, don't expect your liaison with a woman to be lasting. Be ready for tantrums, mood swings, emotional blackmail, sudden possessiveness and petty malice.

Just shrug it all off and show the kind of bemused self-confidence that comes naturally when SPs help you take the edge off your sexual neediness.

 

[Marissa Lee]

Hello this is not the 1930’s anymore.

Women have careers and lives outside of the home.

Personally with my partner I have always insisted on everything being 50/50. Both monetarily and domestically. At our home I pay half the bills and do half of the house work.

To the OP I would suggest finding a partner who wants things in the relationships to be fair and equal. You should not have to buy someone’s love in a relationship.

 

[Dgodus]

To be fair (and to re-enforce what tant touched on) there's alot of stuff you're gonna get from a "relationship" that you wont get from the hobby. I've never had a problem with finances in relationships, the problem is always when one side decides they want more of these other things we get out of relationships, or begin to take for granted what they're getting (people do tend to be selfish, generally not to a fault but selfish none the less), things that were once freely given, turn into things requested more frequently and soon end up turning into veiled demands - all the while giving less what the other person was after. This isn't something gender specific either.

Instead of simply going up to an SO and saying "you used to do X for me all the time, why not so much now?" and making them feel guilty and inadequate; how about you look at yourself first and think of the things you've become slack about that was for your "better half". If you up your game and dont get proper feedback for it well then you can be sure that your SO cares about what you do for them and doesn't care so much about you. Boom, now you can get out with a clear conscience: and this is exactly what you should be doing or else you run into.....

People trying to change each other. This never works, people are what they are. Trying to force a square peg into a round hole never works (sorry for the basic analogy). Either accept the other person for what they are or move on. Problem is, most of us dont. Another problem is alot of us misrepresent ourselves, thinking if we can "get our foot in the door" it'll work out in our favor - and it generally doesn't. Good example I used to be heavily into winter sports, snowboarding and sledding like 5-6 days a week heavily into. You explain this to someone every fall and get the standard "oh yea that's no big deal, it'll be nice to have the extra time to myself", but one month into the season and all of a sudden "you're neglecting me" so do you give up on the things you enjoy most and make yourself miserable or do you keep at it and get made miserable by someone else. Would have been best if everyone was just honest and moved on, but for the most part we dont until you get to that ultimatume point and not only can things end ugly, but that ending can sully the memories of an otherwise good time.

Ideally a relationship is supposed to be you and another person sharing your life together doing things you both mutually enjoy. Not something where a whole bunch of compromises need to be made and endured because our society has a tendency to push people towards pairing off and creating offspring. I had to hide in the hot tub with booze all holiday break as I've got a ton of aunts and all them harped about "why no girlfriend". Besides find a good provider and you can not only get sex, but I'm sure you can get some affection, caring, intimacy as well - yea it's an act or whatever, but as far as you're concerned if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... Just keep your head. Plus you can budget finances, dollar amounts are simple to deal with and aren't really a big deal (sp or SO) it's emotional costs and time costs which you cant really account for until you're right into the middle of it.

Relationships can be good - just be honest, open (to a point, "hey honey do you know what I was doing this time last year with two escorts!!!" yeeeeeeeeea not gonna fly), and a little introspective before accusing someone else and you'll save yourself a ton of grief.

sorry for being wordy. just realized we were coming off really, really bitter and felt the other side needed some light shed on it.

 

[87112]

Hello this is not the 1930’s anymore.

Women have careers and lives outside of the home.

Personally with my partner I have always insisted on everything being 50/50. Both monetarily and domestically. At our home I pay half the bills and do half of the house work.

To the OP I would suggest finding a partner who wants things in the relationships to be fair and equal. You should not have to buy someone’s love in a relationship.

You sound like an Alien.

I kid I kid. The women who are 50/50 with money and housework are long long gone. All gone by age 28 or so. The ones left after age 30 are sent from hell to destroy our souls.

 

[chilli]

Dating shouldn't really be that expensive. It's nice when a guy pays for the first few dates but after that I think it should be generally 50/50. Unless one person is making way more than the other, be it the guy or girl, then maybe they can pay a bit more of the time. But I guess it depends whether you're a couple to go out and pay money on dinners or other expensive things every single day, or just go for walks, cook dinner at home, that's all cheap or free.

You sound like a real sweety Violet - but most women are not like you.

I date alot. All types and all kinds.

95% of the women I date expect me to pay all the time.

Very few actually mean it when they do offer to pay. 9 times out of 10 if they do offer to pay, it's a test.

It's not like women are stupid - they know if we pay it's because we are interested, interested enough to want to have sex with you. To me a woman should never allow a man to pay for her if she has no romantic interest in him.

 

[luvsdaty]

Hello this is not the 1930’s anymore.

Women have careers and lives outside of the home.

Personally with my partner I have always insisted on everything being 50/50. Both monetarily and domestically. At our home I pay half the bills and do half of the house work.

To the OP I would suggest finding a partner who wants things in the relationships to be fair and equal. You should not have to buy someone’s love in a relationship.

Your a rare gem Marissa, there just isn't that many women that feel that way(at least not in the circle of women i know)

 

[yvrgoodtimes]

I've been in relationships where the girl paid for most stuff, but the emotional drama and jealousy that was attached to it was not worth it. I've had girlfriends that think happiness is designer bags and trips and were complete attention whores. Making me jealous was her way to see that I cared (so she said). That turned out to be a girl with major daddy issues and a ton of baggage. She was financially and emotionally expensive. Being singe and trying to date in this city is the shits. Dinner, drinks, and a little dancing easily costs $300 and your not even guaranteed any pussy. Pooning and being a Whorist is cheaper and comes with no strings attached. Plus it's a like a smorgasbord. Sample a little of everything with no commitments, no endless chatter, no drama, no head games, just down to the business at hand. There are a lot of benefits to pooning, but its still largely socially unacceptable.

 

[Dickson]

Ha ha ha ha wine & dine is just the tip of the iceberg my young padewan.Mortgage payments/$2500 per month.Manni's, pedi's,hair appt's, daily starbucks fix. When the kids come a long,she isn't gonna be happy dressing the kid in walmart brand cloth's, juicy couture all the way baby.4 trips/yr to mexico costa rica,cuba,australia........it all costs money & they want it all. Forget about blow jobs once that ring is on her finger & your birthday will be a very special day,that'll be the 1 day a year when you'll be able to get your freak on.....
Don't get me wrong there's no greater feeling than when your in love, but it's just a 50/50 illusion.If i was to give everyone reading this post $1,000,000.oo to invest,would you invest it in something that only had a 50/50 chance of paying off? It's a terrific feeling when your in your teens/20's, but also devistating when the relationship breaks up.
But as you get older you get a little more realistic about it, some people call this jaded.If you don't wanna heed these words, heed Al Bundy's RUN BOY RUN!

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!! I could not say it better. As much as I want the falling in love feeling and the romance once that rubs off it is total hell. That is why my real relationships only last about 6 months. Kinda like the story of the customer and the prospect. I love being the prospect I never what to be the customer.

 

[Ned Flanders]

The short answer would be that it depends a lot on the girlfriend. If you end up paying for everything, and there is an expectation of gifts and shopping trips, the hobby is going to be way cheaper. Based on my experience, if the gf is high maintenance you may end with more warm fuzzies with an SP the the GF.

 

[storm rider]

You sound like an Alien.

I kid I kid. The women who are 50/50 with money and housework are long long gone. All gone by age 28 or so. The ones left after age 30 are sent from hell to destroy our souls.

Ahh but you forgot to point out that the gals that are above 30 (and a lot that are 28) also have kids....the rarest type of gal to find is a gal between 30-38 that has not had children but does have a decent career and also has her life on track...meaning that she is on the property ladder and not renting....that she has pre-planned for retirement...if that gal has that mindset but without an attitude of entitlement with regards to your wallet....then hang on to her like grim death.

SR

 

[luvsdaty]

Ahh but you forgot to point out that the gals that are above 30 (and a lot that are 28) also have kids....the rarest type of gal to find is a gal between 30-38 that has not had children but does have a decent career and also has her life on track...meaning that she is on the property ladder and not renting....that she has pre-planned for retirement...if that gal has that mindset but without an attitude of entitlement with regards to your wallet....then hang on to her like grim death.

SR

Now if she could only make me a sammich? Let me go to lions ,canucks games,always leave the seat up? Then i would hold on like grim death.Hell i'd even (shudder) rub her feet!

 

[wally*]

Pooning is way more expensive! More than you think. If you can get the right girlfriend it will be much cheaper and more pleasurable.

Is it easy to get and keep girlfriends? It depends on your personality and your ability to attract girls.

 

[Tugela]

AND, if she moves in with you for a year (CRA) or two years (BC), she is considered married to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage#Canada

If she has a child, all of the provisions of the Protection of Children Act come into force. You do not have to get married to become financially responsible for her children. In fact, as I posted in another thread some time ago, multiple men can be financially responsible for her children despite none of them being the genetic parent of the child. All that you have had to do is pay for shelter, food and clothing for the child.

How does one become so bitter and paranoid?

 

[luvsdaty]

How does one become so bitter and paranoid?

Maybe he's one of the 50% that's been divorced?