Workout status and benefits

georgebushmoron

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I hope you don't find this post nauseating or a form of gloating. It is not my intention. Hold your breath while you read, it may be worth it.

Some months ago (I think in late July or early August), I posted a thread about working out. Many of you kind folks were more than happy to help me out with some great advice and your perspectives. I appreciated them all and much of what you have said has given me results.

Now I've been at it for 15 weeks at the same rec center gym (Bonsor). I hit every major muscle group once a week, for example, I do chest every Monday. Since then the chest has increased a full 2 inches (measured unpumped). I keep having to tighten my belt more and more as I dress for work. The other day I went shopping for jeans and was shocked I dropped 3 waist sizes to find a proper fit. It is now what it was when I was 20 years old, and that was quite some time ago. I never thought I would ever revisit that time of my life again, but here I am at least physically. I went from chubby guy with a potbelly to body of an amateur gymnast with a 6-pack, and the reaction from females is not subtle. Just imagine how you react to a girl with big C/D breasts and slim body, and you'll know what I mean. My staying power during sex is now way up from before too. For example, today I was able to have BBFS with my SO for 35 minutes of just intercourse without breaks, constant motion. Before I would only last 5 or 10 minutes max of constant intercourse motion.

I am posting this because I'm so proud of what I have been able to achieve, and also because it's the best thing I've ever done for myself that I want to share it with all of you and hope you too can achieve the same results. There have been so many benefits from just this one thing I am doing, it's truly changed my life. I walk with confidence, feel intimidating to others, bolder with women, know that I attract them, get obvious preferential treatment from SPs and waitresses and coffee shop girls and everyday females I encounter, my skin has cleared up, I'm now a mini-powerhouse in bed, and seem to have boundless energy. Only the weak talk endlessly about empowerment, while the strong are already there. I feel better now than when I was 20. You all should try it and I hope to inspire you.

This is not an ends in itself, but a journey. Almost all my sets are drop-sets, because it's the only thing my body responds to. I spent 3 hours per session when doing chest (and minor muscles), but most of that time is spent resting. My rest periods are 4 to 8 minutes between sets. Total reps per exercise may sum to about 30-50. Total hours in the gym per week is 6, broken into 2 sessions. I eat like crazy without worrying about weight gain, I even eat big meals just before bed time knowing my muscles are craving all the fuel they can get. I still probably don't eat enough. I take whey protein, creatine, glutamine, and all my vitamins. It costs me about $150 in supplements a month. I hope I'm doing everything right.

Yet while increasing muscle mass, I am troubled that I still am losing weight (albeit slowly now). It's weird but I suppose this is what should happen. I've made great contacts at Reflex Nutrition in Lougheed Mall, who have been a good source of information. The other day at the weight room someone offered me something called "MT1", a steroid in pill form. I am troubled with wanting more faster, yet know what is the right thing to do. I worry about the future, whether I am close to a plateau in terms of progress - can this kind of phenomenal change go on forever?

What are your experiences? What are your thoughts?
 

dipitydoo

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congrats on your progress GBM. I'll search for your thread and see if I can pick up some useful information, I'd like to have my hard-cut 6 pack back... I can only see a 2 pack now... :(
I have a body type that makes it very hard to put on muscle mass.

kudos and I don't know how much difference it would make for you to start taking steroids... you're already in the best shape of your life, so consider the risks. Balance my friend.
 

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You should be proud! Good job.
 

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georgebushmoron said:
I hope you don't find this post nauseating or a form of gloating. It is not my intention. Hold your breath while you read, it may be worth it.


Yet while increasing muscle mass, I am troubled that I still am losing weight (albeit slowly now). It's weird but I suppose this is what should happen. I've made great contacts at Reflex Nutrition in Lougheed Mall, who have been a good source of information. The other day at the weight room someone offered me something called "MT1", a steroid in pill form. I am troubled with wanting more faster, yet know what is the right thing to do. I worry about the future, whether I am close to a plateau in terms of progress - can this kind of phenomenal change go on forever?

What are your experiences? What are your thoughts?
Hey Georgebushmoron

I read this somewheres where I can not remember.

1 pound of muscle will burn 35 calories a day if you were to sit around all day doing nothing.
Where as 1 pound of fat will just sit there.
So if you have added 10 lbs. of muscle mass you will be burning 350 additional calories a day.

I also work out on a regular basis to keep muscle mass on and am damn proud of my physique for someone my age.
I do a lot of compound excersises to save time and use free weights since I work out at home.
My big work out is doing chin ups from a dead hang every time.
The benefits of doing the chin ups is a massive V shaped back which makes the chest look that much bigger.
This gets me a lot of compliments from SP's when we are showering together.:)
Being in shape certainly enhances my endurance at what ever I do!
No kidding I also get my supplements from Reflex in Lougheed Mall.

cumfrombehind
 

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georgebushmoron said:
My staying power during sex is now way up from before too. For example, today I was able to have BBFS with my SO for 35 minutes of just intercourse without breaks, constant motion. Before I would only last 5 or 10 minutes max of constant intercourse motion.
That's the best reason for pooners to workout.
A couple of months ago I took an extended break from the gym and my libido was almost non-existent. Now that I am back at peak form, I get a massive erection the entire day after an intense session in the gym.
Do the Kegel exercises for better erections and staying power.

georgebushmoron said:
The other day at the weight room someone offered me something called "MT1", a steroid in pill form. I am troubled with wanting more faster, yet know what is the right thing to do.
Stick with the protein and creatine. Roids are for tards.

georgebushmoron said:
I worry about the future, whether I am close to a plateau in terms of progress - can this kind of phenomenal change go on forever?
If you hit a plateau, change your workout routine. It can be as simple as increasing the weights or doing more reps.
But you may have to accept the fact that your body is genetically programmed to only reach a certain peak. That's why many people can't get a six-pack no matter what they do.
 

therealrex

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The kind of results you're describing after only 6 hours per week for 15 weeks? Sounds like you're making the whole thing up
 

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bastard...

good post actually. And congrats. I know how hard it is to get where you are. You deserve to be applauded for your achievement.
I've never had a six pack my entire life. Been fit though. Started to add some weight a couple years ago. In May I started a workout routine. I go 3 times a week, but haven't had nearly the success that you've mentioned. I wonder if its the supplements? Do they make that big of a difference?
As for the roids, if yer gonna do those, why not take up smoking while yer at it? Yer trying to help your bod man, not screw it over with chemicals.
 
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georgebushmoron said:
today I was able to have BBFS with my SO for 35 minutes

OK.......i have two for this one:

a)....you know you are a pooner WHEN.....you descibe sex with the s/o as BBFS.....(too funny)

or

b)......WHY oh WHY would you wanna do that?



just kidding GBM,,,,,good on ya.........
 

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Avarice said:
Yep, it's one reason I kick my ass at the gym....great shape makes for great sex, usually. :p

When I'm going to the gym regularly, like I am now, it just rocks so much more. Hehe.
I just saw your pics on your website...you look like the type I could..."get physical" with! ;)
 

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Avarice said:
Yep, it's one reason I kick my ass at the gym....great shape makes for great sex, usually. :p

When I'm going to the gym regularly, like I am now, it just rocks so much more. Hehe.
I am ready for my next visit. Hey I can go the full hour, I am ready to be ridden hard and put away.:D
 

georgebushmoron

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FuZzYknUckLeS said:
good post actually. And congrats. I know how hard it is to get where you are. You deserve to be applauded for your achievement.
I've never had a six pack my entire life. Been fit though. Started to add some weight a couple years ago. In May I started a workout routine. I go 3 times a week, but haven't had nearly the success that you've mentioned. I wonder if its the supplements? Do they make that big of a difference?
As for the roids, if yer gonna do those, why not take up smoking while yer at it? Yer trying to help your bod man, not screw it over with chemicals.
Yeh the supplements make all the difference. I tried to work out 10 years ago with no results. I did it for almost 6 months and quit in frustration. Back then I had as much intensity in exercise as I do now, but the results today are exactly what I was hoping for 10 years ago and never got. The reason I didn't take any supplements back then was that I was stupid enough to believe that just eating lots would do it. Be sure you don't chintz out on good high quality protein powder and take all your vitamins (not 1-a-day, but real vitamins). The powder I use is "Isoflex Whey Protein Isolate". I also take Creatine, but that is a controversial supplement (but legal) because it may stop the body from naturally producing it. Glutamine is benign, so I see no harm in taking that and is supposed to help. As for achieving a six-pack, I used to do like 100 or so crunches/situps with not so great results. It all changed when I went to the decline bench and held a 20 pound weight to my chest, and did may 7 or 8 situps, dropped the weight immediately, and burned the rest out without a weight. 3 sets of that and you're done. That gave me the six-pack. Also I used to do a lot of jogging, but now I only go once in awhile. The reason? Because all my sets are drop-sets, which just tears the fat right off. I'm living proof.

As for the guy who doesn't believe I was able to achieve a loss of 3 belt sizes in 15 weeks, too bad for you. It's the awesome truth.
 

georgebushmoron

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Thank you all for your compliments and congratulations! You guys really helped me with good guidance, and your recognition today makes me wanna do more!
 

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George,

as long as you cycle your creatine you are okay ... do six weeks on (for the gains) and then taper off for six weeks (you will still keep the gains) and then at least six weeks off ...

you should cycle your workouts as well ... its not the workouts that make the gains it is the rest afterwards!

so if you have gone through a heavy workout cycle, now taper off to a lighter one ... you can do more running if you want extra cardio, but less intensity in the weights to let things heal.

if you follow a 'cycle' (including doing nothing for a week or two) you will let your body 'catch-up' and heal and actually make better gains ... just stick to the diet and supplements and cycle your creatine.

In case anyone is wondering, you lose about 10% creatine production every decade of your life ... it is produced by your body for nitrogen/testosterone retention (will NOT make more!!!) but if you are younger and take it, your own body will stop producing it ... so that's why you cycle on and off of it ...

old guys can take it all the time and there are medical reports showing it helps guys in their 70's to gain lean muscle mass because they have a creatine level about 70% less that a guy in his 20's.

PS: don't panic when you go off the creatine, you are NOT losing all your gains, you are just shedding water as your levels go down ... anyone can take creatine and have muscle swelling just because that's what it does.
 

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georgebushmoron said:
Because all my sets are drop-sets, which just tears the fat right off. I'm living proof.

As for the guy who doesn't believe I was able to achieve a loss of 3 belt sizes in 15 weeks, too bad for you. It's the awesome truth.

Yeah, you like to toot your own horn, (and who doesn't) but ain't you the guy who is taking ephedrine? I see you conveniently left out that small point.

Anyone can loose weight without lifting a finger on that stuff.
 

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mustangjoe said:
Yeah, you like to toot your own horn, (and who doesn't) but ain't you the guy who is taking ephedrine? I see you conveniently left out that small point.

Anyone can loose weight without lifting a finger on that stuff.
Ephedrine??

:confused:

Well that would also explain the huge jump in energy.

I guess I'm not getting these inflated results with my routine simply because I'm doing it the natural way with intense weights and cardio.

If your comfortable doin the ephedrine and creatine and whatever-the-hell else yer plugging into yer body thing, more power to ya man. If nothing else, its good for a short-term ego boost. Just hope that ya don't end up payin' for it in some way later down the road....
 

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Me too

I have been working out for the last few months witha trainer, no suppliments, and I have l have lost twenty something pounds, four belt notches and feel terrific. My trainer has had me doing sit ups witha 10 lb medicine ball on my chest and recently started me with a 20 lb ball. I did four sets of twenty five, just to piss him off. (chuckle)

GBM, my hat's off to you. It is never easy to get into the gym and work out. I know 'cause I'm 50 something and it never gets easier.

Keep it up bud!

SS
 

georgebushmoron

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mustangjoe said:
Yeah, you like to toot your own horn, (and who doesn't) but ain't you the guy who is taking ephedrine? I see you conveniently left out that small point.

Anyone can loose weight without lifting a finger on that stuff.
I don't take ephedrine anymore. After a few PMs from people about it from my earlier post this summer, it scared me. Instead, I drink power drinks that I can get from 7-11 ("Red Bull" is my fave) for that rush just before I lift.

As for muscle mass, the supplements (Creatine, Whey Protein powder, L-Glutamine) all have contributed greatly. I used to be a non-believer in that stuff, preferring to go natural. Now I am a total believer. I used to have a pot belly, now it's completely flat and washboard. I don't know what they call this exercise, but suspended by my arms, I can do 8 reps of a 30 pound weight attached to my feet, pulling it up vertically till the knees touch my chest. I used to never do that before. Now I can do the gymnast's L-sit and hold it for 20 seconds. That's a big feat for a weakling like me.
 

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FuZzYknUckLeS said:
If your comfortable doin the ephedrine and creatine and whatever-the-hell else yer plugging into yer body thing, more power to ya man. If nothing else, its good for a short-term ego boost. Just hope that ya don't end up payin' for it in some way later down the road....
As earlier stated, I got scared off the ephedrine in the summer after a few PMs from you guys. But if you think my results are temporary because I'm using supplements, then you should do some research about what is in them. I assure you, the results are permanent and the muscle tissue is rock hard.
 

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Silver Surfer said:
I have been working out for the last few months witha trainer, no suppliments, and I have l have lost twenty something pounds, four belt notches and feel terrific. My trainer has had me doing sit ups witha 10 lb medicine ball on my chest and recently started me with a 20 lb ball. I did four sets of twenty five, just to piss him off. (chuckle)

GBM, my hat's off to you. It is never easy to get into the gym and work out. I know 'cause I'm 50 something and it never gets easier.

Keep it up bud!

SS
Thanks man... even though you're 50+, you should consider whey protein powder to rebuild your muscle tissue. There's this guy at Bonsor rec center where I work out and he must be at least 50, and the guy is fucking built like a pit bull. All muscle, all lean, all hard, and he takes protein. He's at least 50 and he makes me look like a wimpy little stick. That guy is one of my inspirations.
 

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Silver Surfer said:
I have been working out for the last few months witha trainer, no suppliments, and I have l have lost twenty something pounds, four belt notches and feel terrific. My trainer has had me doing sit ups witha 10 lb medicine ball on my chest and recently started me with a 20 lb ball. I did four sets of twenty five, just to piss him off. (chuckle)

GBM, my hat's off to you. It is never easy to get into the gym and work out. I know 'cause I'm 50 something and it never gets easier.

Keep it up bud!

SS
couple of things:

#1 ... sit-ups are useless except for some ab development ... what you need to work on are exercises that build up the core stabilizers ... this is where your real power comes from for ANY exercise (including sex!). the stronger your core stabilizers the stronger you are!

#2 ... while some protein will help, i would strongly recommend you try Creatine ... unlike the situation with younger guys who take it and then may stop their own body from producing it (and then have to take it forever) ... us older guys can take it regularly (and NO, more is not better!) and it will help with your muscle building.

#3 ... l-glutamine is something anyone can take, and take lots of it ... it doesn't really contribute to building muscles, but when available, it allows the liver to use it instead of breaking down muscle fibres to produce it ... that's why it is often called a protein or muscle 'sparing' supplement.

and like i told george ... it isn't the exercise that builds muscle, its the rest afterwards. don't get enough rest and you won't make any gains no matter how hard you train.
 
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