Ashtyn @ CA

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Well this will be my first review.. a little nervous, so please go easy. First off, im not posting my first time to give someone a bad name or get revenge; NOTHING like that, i just feel guys should be informed of what their getting into, and having intel on bad service can be a very valuable thing. So consider this my TOFTT post. For every one negative review i post, i will post 3 positive reviews but this is just to prove my point that i have good intentions. but honestly, ive never had more than 3 or 4 bad sessions in my time.

Looks: well this girl wasn't bad looking at all but my only problem with her was that she looked like she had some substance issues, and im not even going to judge her based on that because who doesnt? i get carried away myself sometimes with my herbs, but this was ridiculous. i did get her to admit she used to be a marijuana user, but i suspected more; ive seen pot heads who had unusual faces from long-term or over-using and i tell u, weed does not do that to a person's face, especially a young 19 yr old girl. Her pictures seem to be inaccurate because i had not realized how sunken in and tired her face looked. From the pictures, i wasnt expecting this at all as i was expecting a more straight-edge person but everything else was fine. She does have a nice figure, cant be more than 125+ lbs. Nothing was extra voluptuous but still nice indeed.

Attitude: well this was more disappointing for me, because i really depend on having some kind of connection no matter how small, i could have easily gotten past her substance-abuse shown by her face if only she seemed to care the tiniest bit. she seemed like she could've given less of a rats ass being at the agency, let alone with me. Although she did engage in a bit of small talk and basic courteous gestures(you want water? do you need a cloth etc) there was barely any conversation at all. kinda a turn off, can u blame me?

Service: horrible. I was even denied a position, and she kept clamping onto the back of my legs purposely so i couldn't maneuver properly; and this was even after i asked her to stop.
how am i supposed to fire my gun and get the damn session over with if she intentionally inhibits me?

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i usually don't ask about restrictions since im a simple "meat and potatoes" kind of guy, but after the introductions at the door i knew there would be no bothering to ask. Originally, i contacted her through Craigslist because she was advertising a Christmas special, an hour for $170. excited to meet her any way and seeing this bonus, i gave her a call. i called her on a weekend, and met her the following weekend; i asked her several times if she would hold the xMas special donation price for me and she assured me she would. So i call her on sunday the night of the appointment, and shes at home telling me to goto CA. Im thinking, okay..? i thought this was independent but i have seen her profile on their site so i went with the flow. I got to the agency on time, she was about 20 minutes late after catching a taxi. No big deal i thought, shes giving me a special so it didnt even phase my good mood. I gave the money to Justice before she had arrived, but when she finally showed up, it turned out she had no idea what i was talking about when i mentioned the christmas special. Oh how convenient, for an obvious user-looking person. I paid $180 usual rate for an hour, but Ashtyn claimed her CL rates were going 200 for that amount of time so that was all i was getting shorted down to only 45 mins. yes how attractive
Then, she has the nerve to tell me i cant go missionary position with her, my favorite.. okay i admit i can understand some girls pulling that because it hurts or whatever, but this girl already had so much wrong going on with her and she couldnt even bother to give it a try; i was even willing to take a gentle approach. Its so basic, isnt missionary what monkeys do?
so, after some minutes passed by of mechanical motions, i fired my first shot. i was feeling pretty upset, so i didnt even bother offering a massage which i almost always do to pass the time in between shots because i like to return a kindness and make the girl more comfortable. She didnt even have a clue as to my dissatisfaction, if you ask me she came to work a bit glazed.
The only GOOD thing that was going for her that night, was that she agreed to giving me a second shot to my surprise. I almost always can muster the force for a 2nd, but after about 15 minutes of heaving i stopped because i knew she couldnt finish me off. she even had the nerve(yes i know, again) to tell me that most guys dont have the energy to finish a 2nd time.. YEAH OK. i dunno wtf she thinks she knows but she doesnt know me. im not trying to brag about my abilities or anything, but its like she was bringing that up as an excuse for her poor abilities which was apparent that night. She almost seemed kind of amused as she was talking about it, that i couldn't finish a second time. Ive never been actually insulted by a SP before, but i ended up leaving straight up pissed off. She said we were going to have 45 mins because of my "short payment" but i didnt even bother. i left after half hour, i was so displeased.

My only complaints is the agency lets an amateur like her running around charging extra (which is unheard to me, i go there for the agency not some independent) for crappy service and she looks like a little girl? the whole ordeal was kind of creepy, it was almost as if she wasnt the same girl they show in the pictures on the CA website. the girl on there looks clean, friendly and happy and with the girl i met, this was just not the case at all. I doubt it was an impostor, but it really makes me wonder on how that many things can go wrong. Maybe the pictures were old? because ive read a good review on her before from Athaire. like i said, i dont like to brag but i always make sure im in good shape before the session. Showered, teeth brushed, lots of soap and scrubbing, groomed and im not a bad looking guy. 19 years old, easy going and i do very much believe in 'modesty is the best policy' saying
ive had plenty of great experiences at CA, so i know the problem was definitely not me.

Specs:
Repeat - I would totally recant my negative experience if the agency actually appeared to care, by a small discount or some kind of incentive(SU has compensated me before, after a bad session) but their care free attitude makes me want to keep away. I would only repeat if the agency shapes up, and they'll come around eventually, but i would never see this girl again in my life.

Location - Incall, CA agency in esquimalt

Age - 19 apparently

Body type - normal

Are the photo's accurate? hell no. Looks either outdated, other person(unlikely) or possible photoshop(doubt that too). i wouldnt even question this if her face didnt look so much different in person than in her pictures. it was like they were complete different people, ive never encountered this before.. and i have quite an extensive history with SP's. I've been to CA many and many times, and they're really a nice agency with a good line up usually

This all happened last sunday, so im only reviewing the two bad experiences i had recently. One bad session with Ashtyn, and another with a CraigsList girl named Anastasia but ill only bring that up much later after some well deserved positive reviews
more reviews to come, and on a much nicer tone next time
 
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Well this will be my first review.. a little nervous, so please go easy. First off, im not posting my first time to give someone a bad name or get revenge; NOTHING like that, i just feel guys should be informed of what their getting into, and having intel on bad service can be a very valuable thing. So consider this my TOFTT post. For every one negative review i post, i will post 3 positive reviews but this is just to prove my point that i have good intentions. but honestly, ive never had more than 3 or 4 bad sessions in my time.

Looks: well this girl wasn't bad looking at all but my only problem with her was that she looked like she had some substance issues, and im not even going to judge her based on that because who doesnt? i get carried away myself sometimes with my herbs, but this was ridiculous. i did get her to admit she used to be a marijuana user, but i suspected more; ive seen pot heads who had unusual faces from long-term or over-using and i tell u, weed does not do that to a person's face, especially a young 19 yr old girl. Her pictures seem to be inaccurate because i had not realized how sunken in and tired her face looked. From the pictures, i wasnt expecting this at all as i was expecting a more straight-edge person but everything else was fine. She does have a nice figure, cant be more than 125+ lbs. Nothing was extra voluptuous but still nice indeed.

Attitude: well this was more disappointing for me, because i really depend on having some kind of connection no matter how small, i could have easily gotten past her substance-abuse shown by her face if only she seemed to care the tiniest bit. she seemed like she could've given less of a rats ass being at the agency, let alone with me. Although she did engage in a bit of small talk and basic courteous gestures(you want water? do you need a cloth etc) there was barely any conversation at all. kinda a turn off, can u blame me?

Service: horrible. I was even denied a position, and she kept clamping onto the back of my legs purposely so i couldn't maneuver properly; and this was even after i asked her to stop.
how am i supposed to fire my gun and get the damn session over with if she intentionally inhibits me?

= = =

i usually don't ask about restrictions since im a simple "meat and potatoes" kind of guy, but after the introductions at the door i knew there would be no bothering to ask. Originally, i contacted her through Craigslist because she was advertising a Christmas special, an hour for $170. excited to meet her any way and seeing this bonus, i gave her a call. i called her on a weekend, and met her the following weekend; i asked her several times if she would hold the xMas special donation price for me and she assured me she would. So i call her on sunday the night of the appointment, and shes at home telling me to goto CA. Im thinking, okay..? i thought this was independent but i have seen her profile on their site so i went with the flow. I got to the agency on time, she was about 20 minutes late after catching a taxi. No big deal i thought, shes giving me a special so it didnt even phase my good mood. I gave the money to Justice before she had arrived, but when she finally showed up, it turned out she had no idea what i was talking about when i mentioned the christmas special. Oh how convenient, for an obvious user-looking person. I paid $180 usual rate for an hour, but Ashtyn claimed her CL rates were going 200 for that amount of time so that was all i was getting shorted down to only 45 mins. yes how attractive
Then, she has the nerve to tell me i cant go missionary position with her, my favorite.. okay i admit i can understand some girls pulling that because it hurts or whatever, but this girl already had so much wrong going on with her and she couldnt even bother to give it a try; i was even willing to take a gentle approach. Its so basic, isnt missionary what monkeys do?
so, after some minutes passed by of mechanical motions, i fired my first shot. i was feeling pretty upset, so i didnt even bother offering a massage which i almost always do to pass the time in between shots because i like to return a kindness and make the girl more comfortable. She didnt even have a clue as to my dissatisfaction, if you ask me she came to work a bit glazed.
The only GOOD thing that was going for her that night, was that she agreed to giving me a second shot to my surprise. I almost always can muster the force for a 2nd, but after about 15 minutes of heaving i stopped because i knew she couldnt finish me off. she even had the nerve(yes i know, again) to tell me that most guys dont have the energy to finish a 2nd time.. YEAH OK. i dunno wtf she thinks she knows but she doesnt know me. im not trying to brag about my abilities or anything, but its like she was bringing that up as an excuse for her poor abilities which was apparent that night. She almost seemed kind of amused as she was talking about it, that i couldn't finish a second time. Ive never been actually insulted by a SP before, but i ended up leaving straight up pissed off. She said we were going to have 45 mins because of my "short payment" but i didnt even bother. i left after half hour, i was so displeased.

My only complaints is the agency lets an amateur like her running around charging extra (which is unheard to me, i go there for the agency not some independent) for crappy service and she looks like a little girl? the whole ordeal was kind of creepy, it was almost as if she wasnt the same girl they show in the pictures on the CA website. the girl on there looks clean, friendly and happy and with the girl i met, this was just not the case at all. I doubt it was an impostor, but it really makes me wonder on how that many things can go wrong. Maybe the pictures were old? because ive read a good review on her before from Athaire. like i said, i dont like to brag but i always make sure im in good shape before the session. Showered, teeth brushed, lots of soap and scrubbing, groomed and im not a bad looking guy. 19 years old, easy going and i do very much believe in 'modesty is the best policy' saying
ive had plenty of great experiences at CA, so i know the problem was definitely not me.

Specs:
Repeat - I would totally recant my negative experience if the agency actually appeared to care, by a small discount or some kind of incentive(SU has compensated me before, after a bad session) but their care free attitude makes me want to keep away. I would only repeat if the agency shapes up, and they'll come around eventually, but i would never see this girl again in my life.

Location - Incall, CA agency in esquimalt

Age - 19 apparently

Body type - normal

Are the photo's accurate? hell no. Looks either outdated, other person(unlikely) or possible photoshop(doubt that too). i wouldnt even question this if her face didnt look so much different in person than in her pictures. it was like they were complete different people, ive never encountered this before.. and i have quite an extensive history with SP's. I've been to CA many and many times, and they're really a nice agency with a good line up usually

This all happened last sunday, so im only reviewing the two bad experiences i had recently. One bad session with Ashtyn, and another with a CraigsList girl named Anastasia but ill only bring that up much later after some well deserved positive reviews
more reviews to come, and on a much nicer tone next time
Wow... That is a pretty intact and well written review. Sorry you had such bad luck.
Sometimes you must see if the Sp and you 'mesh' at times when you book the appointment with the lady. (Looks arent everything when it comes to seduction) Maybe the connection just wasn't there with her.
Feel the woman next time and try to get a feel for the girls personality when you make an appointment through the agency if possible.
 

athaire

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Wow.....Interesting review. Since you mention me by name I should like to point out that all reviews are YMMV, I have gotten more service and less from other reviewed ladies. Any out there should really take them as indicators of service.

And add some advice......

-If the cost of the sessions are in dispute at the onset....vote with your feet and walk. No point in having a bad session unless you are into the whole TOFTT thing....

-I would caution anyone booking a known agency girl as an indy for more money when you can book her for less and most likely get the same service levels through the agency.....

The only kinda weird thing I wondered about was why you feel you need to space out neg reviews with pos ones? You sound like you have been pooning for some time, and seem to be able to write a well structured review, considering this is your first.
Have you been reviewing before? On another board perhaps?
 

athaire

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Brutal. I am glad I never booked with her.
LOL....why? There could be any number of reasons this went of the rails. I think the fact she has three pos reviews and one neg show that a relatively new girl is doing not so bad, and that there is obviously room for improvement.....
 

WestCoast-persian

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Yes, seeing one review should definitely not be enough to change your mind but at least you'll be advised.
and fck! i cant believe it, i just wrote a sweet review on Vanessa and accidently hit the back button on my mouse and lost the whole thing. Who the heck needs a back button on the mouse anyway? lazy guys at microsoft..
and yes, YMMV is very important to remember. But i almost always freshen up before a session, just so i dont make the girl feel uncomfortable and i want her to be in her best mood so i can really see her for what she is. and i got there on time so i would of been able to have plenty of time to 'mesh' before taking the session, but unfortunately i was hasty and paid beforehand since she was late and still inbound via taxi. but its A good lesson you taught me, next time ill wait for paying until i know what im getting into.. that whole xmas special thing was just a load
I have seen tons and many SP's since ive turned 19ish, ive just never before posted any girl reviews, let alone on any SP boards. so please have a little patience ;) still picking it up
 
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athaire

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Yes, seeing one review should definitely not be enough to change your mind but at least you'll be advised.
and fck! i cant believe it, i just wrote a sweet review on Vanessa and accidently hit the back button on my mouse and lost the whole thing. Who the heck needs a back on the mouse anyway? lazy guys at microsoft..
and yes, YMMV is a very important thing to remember. But i almost always freshen up before a session, just so i dont make the girl feel uncomfortable and i want her to be in her best mood so i can really see her for what she is. and i got there on time so i would of been able to have plenty of time to 'mesh' before taking the session, but unfortunately i was hasty and paid beforehand since she was late and still inbound via taxi. but its A good lesson you taught me, next time ill wait for paying until i know what im getting into
and ive never posted on any girl reviews, let alone any SP boards so please give a little patience ;) still picking it up
I think you will do just fine. I look forward to more intel from a new reviewer.....:)
and fck! i cant believe it, i just wrote a sweet review on Vanessa and accidently hit the back button on my mouse and lost the whole thing.
Ya I have done similar as well.....usually though it was the site timing out before I could post and I lost the whole thing. I now use two windows and refresh the one without the review to ensure all will be well prior to posting.....
 

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I think you will do just fine. I look forward to more intel from a new reviewer.....:)
To hear words of kindness, from a SP-reviewing legend such of yourself is an honour
and with that little slice of advice, about the post-rejection and the 2 browsers thing, you'll be saving me a lot of head-ache lol.
just forgot how wacky forums can be sometimes
 
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athaire

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Wow....I dunno what you guys are talking about, unless she has undergone some major changes since I visited with her I will be respectfully disagreeing with you in regards to her not looking like her pics.....the girl I visited with was the one in the pics....
 

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Different rates quoted?

If I understand the OP correctly, he says that some of the ladies advertise different (higher) rates on CL than the CA agency quotes. It would be great if the agency could clear this up as it seems confusing. Thanks in advance for the clarification.
 

WestCoast-persian

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It would be great if the agency could clear this up as it seems confusing. Thanks in advance for the clarification.
yes steve, i have to say i agree with you there.. that was my biggest pet peeve. i didnt really care about losing the xmas special although she promised, it was the part about being above the usual agency fee - thats kind of odd to me. maybe there should be at least some kind of incentive?

although i feel kinda funny now, almost like a jerk because i made this passive aggressive thread about their establishment sound kinda bad.. but i feel much better because i got a pm just today from Cori @ CA, and he/her assured me i could get a $20 discount! :D you'd be surprised how happy that makes me! man of simple pleasures
oh well, just to get the record straight, i'd recommend Charlies angel's just as much as any other agency. just dont book with Ashtyn ;)
sorry CA for any hard feelings. really didnt expect you guys to come around
 

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I feel sorry for you. This SP has indeed provided good service at start. This is not acceptable. As you indicated she was underifluence. She might have taken on a new habit, which has affected her service. The reptuable agencies should be more proactive. Ensure thier customers are satisfied.
 

athaire

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The reptuable agencies should be more proactive. Ensure thier customers are satisfied.
I agree......but he indicated she was booking as an Indy.....where is it written the agency should take the fall in that situation? One of the benefits I have always found using the agencies was at least there is recourse in shitty situations. With an indy....not so much.
 

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The girl I wrote a review on about a month ago was indeed the same girl as in the pics and I found her to be pleasant and accomadating. Not an excuse but maybe you caught her on a really bad day? Hopefully that is the case and there aren't any other issues. I would suggest contacting CA and discussing your concerns with management to allow an apology, explanation and opportunity to make it up to you.
 

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Just to clear this up, since I can see it is confusing a lot of you.

Our girls are allowed to put adds up on craigslist, and to charge what they wish, and as such, many of the girls wish to charge more.
It's really just a way for them to put their names out there, and to advertise themselves.. What they charge on an independant call
has nothing to do with CA, since the ads usually are made on their days off.

This doesn't affect the CA prices at all, which are still the same.

When you are seeing any agency girl through their craigslist adds, you are doing just that, seeing an independant girl, and you have to take the chance that an INDY might not treat you as well, as when they are working through their agency.

Hope this helps clear a few things up!

Quinn
 

shyboy123

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All agencies do the bait and switch, CA is a big fan of the scam. Ashtyn looks no where near as good as her pic, I got scammed by CA.:mad:
My one trip to CA was great with Toni. I have seen girls from Carmen Fox and Temp Girlfriend in Van, as well as CA, DL, and VIP here in Vic. While pics are of course selected to be the most flattering, I have not experienced any bait and switch yet. Much different than CL, and the Agencies in my experience do a pretty good job of trying to provide good girls with good service to keep us gents happy. Perhaps over time and experience my opinion may change but so far things have not been as you say for me personally.
 
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athaire

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Just to clear this up, since I can see it is confusing a lot of you.

Our girls are allowed to put adds up on craigslist, and to charge what they wish, and as such, many of the girls wish to charge more.
It's really just a way for them to put their names out there, and to advertise themselves.. What they charge on an independant call
has nothing to do with CA, since the ads usually are made on their days off.

This doesn't affect the CA prices at all, which are still the same.

When you are seeing any agency girl through their craigslist adds, you are doing just that, seeing an independant girl, and you have to take the chance that an INDY might not treat you as well, as when they are working through their agency.

Hope this helps clear a few things up!

Quinn
Exactly what I was saying earlier in the thread. If you book a girl as an Indy why would CA be compelled to compensate you for your visit if things go awry? One of the reasons I enjoy agency bookings is that if there is an issue I have recourse by going to management. Indy's not so much......even if you do manage to get some kind of concession from them in time on next visit I find it difficult to believe that the session won't be tainted. At an agency I don't have to repeat with the same girl if I don't wish to and still have compensation.....win/win in my books.....

Thats not to say that there aren't reputable indy's around that can and will handle the situations with grace and professionalism. But for me once there are those feelings are there it is very hard to have them dispelled....
 

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When you are seeing any agency girl through their craigslist adds, you are doing just that, seeing an independant girl, and you have to take the chance that an INDY might not treat you as well, as when they are working through their agency.

Hope this helps clear a few things up!

Quinn

It sounded to me that in this case the person booked off of CL directly with the SP, but then was directed to go to CA's in-cal. This makes it confusing if you are booking an indy, or an agency.

If the call takes place at the agency in-call, I would expect all the protections of an agency. If the SP is going to advertise on CL, at different rates and at a private in-call (not at the agency in-call), then I agree, buyer beware and don't expect any agency support.
 

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My two cents..........

I called Ashtyn off her Craigs ad looking for info and if it checked out maybe book. It's my opinion that the girl was wasted on something while talking to me (slurring, rude, incomplete sentences, sounding very rough/gruff). Anyways, that was enough of red flare for me, I thanked her for the info and proceeded to end that call. She obviously didn't turn her phone off properly because I then got to listen to her go on a tireade to someone in the room about how she hates talking to guys like us and a whole rash of other vulgar/trashy(not the good kind) of stuff.

FYI
 

classycarly

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My two cents..........

I called Ashtyn off her Craigs ad looking for info and if it checked out maybe book. It's my opinion that the girl was wasted on something while talking to me (slurring, rude, incomplete sentences, sounding very rough/gruff). Anyways, that was enough of red flare for me, I thanked her for the info and proceeded to end that call. She obviously didn't turn her phone off properly because I then got to listen to her go on a tireade to someone in the room about how she hates talking to guys like us and a whole rash of other vulgar/trashy(not the good kind) of stuff.

FYI

As much as I'd like to state otherwise Bull69.....I'm afraid I can't this time. I always stick up for the girls if I think they're getting an unfair shake and in Ashtyn's case, I was even more protective of her and went out of way to look out for her. However, I have been saddened lately by what I see as a drastic change recently and I can't lie and say what you are saying isn't true. I'm sorry you didn't know Ashtyn in the beginning and hopefully one day she'll be the old Ashtyn again. I would say that you probably "dodged a bullet" that day when you decided not to book with her. Hopefully, that's not the way it will always be. She's still young. There is hope.......:confused:
 

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I hope your right Carly as the Ashtyn I met was a beautiful, personable young lady full of happiness and liife. The most important thing is her health and happiness, let's all hope she finds that on a good path. Best of luck.
 
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