Tattoo Turbulance

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I have two rather large pieces on the go, both outlined, shaded and some colour done. Both artists that are doing the two pieces have moved on (it's amazing how nomadic artists that don't own a shop are).

Now you would think, go to another tattoo artist to finish the pieces right? Wrong. Good tattooists have a code, that you don't touch somebody else's work, unless it is a full cover-up. Somebody else's work??? It is now on my body, I paid for the design, it is now MY WORK

When you have pieces the size of mine, with so much black work, a cover up isn't possible. Now, lucky for me, I did find someone who has worked on me before who is willing to complete the work. For anyone else that is planning a large piece that will take several sessions to complete, my advice is to pay the extra money and stick with the owner(s) of the shop. Otherwise, you may get stuck with a lot of unfinished work!

 

[oppai]

I have two rather large pieces on the go, both outlined, shaded and some colour done. Both artists that are doing the two pieces have moved on (it's amazing how nomadic artists that don't own a shop are).

Now you would think, go to another tattoo artist to finish the pieces right? Wrong. Good tattooists have a code, that you don't touch somebody else's work, unless it is a full cover-up. Somebody else's work??? It is now on my body, I paid for the design, it is now MY WORK

When you have pieces the size of mine, with so much black work, a cover up isn't possible. Now, lucky for me, I did find someone who has worked on me before who is willing to complete the work. For anyone else that is planning a large piece that will take several sessions to complete, my advice is to pay the extra money and stick with the owner(s) of the shop. Otherwise, you may get stuck with a lot of unfinished work!

How long did you take between sessions? Did you discuss with them whether they would be around to finish the piece in the time frame you needed?

The comment of it being YOUR WORK, is absolute BS. If you buy a Monet and put it up in YOUR house do you think you could put YOUR name on it as an artist and then sell it as yours? No. I think the same thing holds true here...now in your circumstance if they up and left without finishing your piece within a reasonable amount of time that is fair, but you can't expect another artist to put their name to it. I don't know any artist that would unless they were NOT good and really needed some money.

It's a shitty predicament. Where did the artists move to? Could you not travel there?

 

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How long did you take between sessions? Did you discuss with them whether they would be around to finish the piece in the time frame you needed?

The comment of it being YOUR WORK, is absolute BS. If you buy a Monet and put it up in YOUR house do you think you could put YOUR name on it as an artist and then sell it as yours? No. I think the same thing holds true here...now in your circumstance if they up and left without finishing your piece within a reasonable amount of time that is fair, but you can't expect another artist to put their name to it. I don't know any artist that would unless they were NOT good and really needed some money.

It's a shitty predicament. Where did the artists move to? Could you not travel there?

It's not about taking credit for the piece. If I own a Monet, I have the right to do whatever I want with it, as I own it. If I want another artist to add to it, that is my right, as again, I own it.

 

[FortunateOne]

I think he is pointing out that the main design work is done, but it needs the colouring. Not that I know anything about tatoo work, but I don't think it means necessarily that he shouldn't be able to get it completed by someone else & that someone willing to do so isn't necessarily a shady character. I only say that because many of the artists of the past didn't actually always complete their own work. Alot of the masterpieces have been worked on by their students, according to experts.

 

[trackstar]

I think he is pointing out that the main design work is done, but it needs the colouring. Not that I know anything about tatoo work, but I don't think it means necessarily that he shouldn't be able to get it completed by someone else & that someone willing to do so isn't necessarily a shady character. I only say that because many of the artists of the past didn't actually always complete their own work. Alot of the masterpieces have been worked on by their students, according to experts.

Exactly! Your last point is also very true! Even in regards to the Sistine Chapel.

 

[oppai]

It's not about taking credit for the piece. If I own a Monet, I have the right to do whatever I want with it, as I own it. If I want another artist to add to it, that is my right, as again, I own it.

I'm not saying you CAN'T I am saying that in the eyes of ANY artist they would find that to be totally disrespectful. I think you get my point but are just arguing semantics. It is not right to alter what an artist has done. A cover up is one thing as you are just re-using the canvas but I am very surprised that another artist would take on the work unless given permission by the original artist.

That bring said, I think it is shitty if your artist up and left without telling you or without giving you the chance to finish your work.

Could you answer my first questions? How long has this been worked on, did they give you advance notice of their departure and was the length of time it would take to finish the piece discussed when you started? I find that MANY tattoos end up crappy due to poor research by the tattooee and a lack of communication and ideas before starting.

NOTE: I'm not trying to blame you, assuming they just up and left without giving you the chance to get the work completed I would feel the same way and would of course search for someone to complete it. I would say that the shop they worked at SHOULD offer a solution unless the artist was just "renting space"?

 

[oppai]

I think he is pointing out that the main design work is done, but it needs the colouring. Not that I know anything about tatoo work, but I don't think it means necessarily that he shouldn't be able to get it completed by someone else & that someone willing to do so isn't necessarily a shady character. I only say that because many of the artists of the past didn't actually always complete their own work. Alot of the masterpieces have been worked on by their students, according to experts.

I agree, what I have an issue with is that he seems to be shocked that artists wouldn't want to complete it. I certainly wouldn't unless the original artist was a friend, had a very similar style, was a workmate and/or had given permission to complete the coloring.

 

[trackstar]

I'm not saying you CAN'T I am saying that in the eyes of ANY artist they would find that to be totally disrespectful. I think you get my point but are just arguing semantics. It is not right to alter what an artist has done. A cover up is one thing as you are just re-using the canvas but I am very surprised that another artist would take on the work unless given permission by the original artist.

That bring said, I think it is shitty if your artist up and left without telling you or without giving you the chance to finish your work.

Could you answer my first questions? How long has this been worked on, did they give you advance notice of their departure and was the length of time it would take to finish the piece discussed when you started? I find that MANY tattoos end up crappy due to poor research by the tattooee and a lack of communication and ideas before starting.

NOTE: I'm not trying to blame you, assuming they just up and left without giving you the chance to get the work completed I would feel the same way and would of course search for someone to complete it. I would say that the shop they worked at SHOULD offer a solution unless the artist was just "renting space"?

One just, "Up and left" after being in the shop for years. The other impulsively decided that he wanted to travel the world. Both shop owners were shocked and pissed off. Many people are in the same situation I am, a couple I know personally and are not people that should be screwed around like this.

"It is not right to alter what an artist has done"
Where did you see I wanted my tattoos altered? I want them fucking finished!

 

[island-guy]

When the original artist abandoned the job, he lost any right to be upset if someone else finished it.

I guess the moral is that it isn't a great idea to have flakey people who don't finish what they start put anything permenant on your body.

 

[oppai]

I think I didn't get my post across clearly.
I agree with you ESPECIALLY given the circumstance of how they left.
I don't think the original artists could or would have an issue BUT I am saying I understand ANOTHER artist not wanting to finish it.

That being said the SHOP should offer an artist to finish it for you as I think the responsibility lies on them.

Sorry, I think I took your first post the wrong way, I assumed you had kinda taken your time getting the piece done and before you knew it the artists had moved on. I was wrong, but I stick to my guns only on the point that I wouldn't blame or expect other artists to want to finish the work....except for someone at the shop(s?) where you got the work done.

I hope this works out for you.