Stupid Parents
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Does it matter who the lawn belongs to? Shouldn't everyone be afforded the same ability to live without being harassed?rickoshadows said:
As JustAGuy aptly pointed out some of us don't have or want kids so why should we be made to put up with the vermin who's parent's can't/won't/don't look after them?rickoshadows said:
There's that defeatist attitude of yours I likerickoshadows said:
Why aren't their parents allowed to hold their kids responsible for their actions? Society doesn't say they can't, the law doesn't say they can't, I wouldn't image their extended families wouldn't stop them. Having responsibility of your children is second only to love in what parents need to supply. So now you're a fan of eugenics?rickoshadows said:
I've never professed to have all or even some of the answers when it comes to rearing children, but its clear that the current method used by many parents isn't working. As for what I would suggest, and what I mentioned at the start of this thread, is that parents need to be held accountable ALONG SIDE any child under 18. Maybe if a parent knew they'd face fines, community service or jail time because of their children breaking the law they'd be a bit more inclined to put the time into teaching them right vs. wrong. That coupled with fundamental changes to our justice system that in addition to having a rehabilitative focus there is also the ability to punish those who've done wrong.rickoshadows said:
Again with my melon being crushed.....fuck you're a cranky little bitch today.rickoshadows said:
sounds old enough to me that jail time wouldn't be out of the questionLonelyGhost said:
And what if it did? How is that relevant to anything?rickoshadows said:
Guilty as charged. And not the least bit repentent for thinking that way, just for the record. No part of an enjoyable restaurant experience for me includes having some wailing two year old throwing food at the next table or their five year old brother or sister careening up and down the restaurant aisles because mom and dad think they're just adorable and surely the other restaurant patrons will agree or else they have neither the inclination nor the ability to keep the kids at their own table.rickoshadows said:
What he said. If I am dropping over three hundred dollars for a romantic dinner in a fine dining restaurant, I expect the people at the next table to drop an extra 25 bucks and get a sitter. That being said, I feel sorry for these kids who are raised to believe everything they say and do is precious. When they get out in the real world, it must be a shock to find out they are not all that. I don't know which is worse, raising a kid to think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, or letting them know thru words and actions that they mean nothing to you.JustAGuy said:
Sometimes kids turn out just fine in spite of their parents, sometimes they don't.
Before the discussion go further,I wonder how many of you guys are parents?
I am the father of three kids! Any other parents here?
I am the father of three kids! Any other parents here?
what difference does it make? if the guy who breaks into my houseLurker 123 said:
is 'black' do I have to be 'black' to understand why he broke into my
house?
I don't care about 'motivation' or 'cause' what I care about is the effect:
if your kids act like little criminals then it doesn't matter one iota if I am
a parent or not because it still affects me either way.
I just want to find out who are the guilty one too!LonelyGhost said:
It is unfortunately majority of those kids are come from disfunctional families where there is no family values. If kids do not treasure their own families ,they won't treasure anything in this world! e.g. they arson other people's house for they don't exactly have a sweet home to go to. They destroy other people's properties for they are jealous of something they can't have!
As I have said earlier if someone or a counsellor can bring the family together again where each member of that family can learn to forgive ,to understand and to love each other .Then the problem will be solved!
I am not a religious person. However I aware that many religious organisations have done a great job in bringing families together again.So in a way religions do have their merit points in our societies.
Someone earlier mentioned that the problems of our society is partly to blame the politicians.That is a valid point too.
Not long ago when the government decided to take the religions out of the school system,immediately the family values started to decline.You can imagine schools are not allowed to teach family values .On the other hands some parents do not bother to teach family values at home . Then who else will teach family values to our next generations? Now you can see the consequences!
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IMO thats less about Asian and more about old fashionedhamsuplo said:
Me and my family are pretty damn white and I know damn well that if I ever did anything like brutalize an animal, mug someone, burn anything down intentionally (there was one unintentional smallish fire I still get shit over) or was responsible for any other heinous act not only would I have received one hell of a punishment I'd have shamed my family.
That is not exactly a good idea. Otherwise you will see a lot of people committing suicide! For instance a few years back,there was a Taiwanese family lived in White Rock. The father had done something shameful and he didn't want his family to suffer. Therefore he had a drastic move and killed the whole family!hamsuplo said:
You have to forgive them . Kids are kids in that sense and they are not very thoughtful!gravitas said:
However it doesn't mean they don't love you. Make sure you maintain a dialogue between them! When your kids know you still care about them. They will respect you and think you are a cool dad!Lurker 123 said:That is not exactly a good idea. Otherwise you will see a lot of people committing suicide! For instance a few years back,there was a Taiwanese family lived in White Rock. The father had done something shameful and he didn't want his family to suffer. Therefore he had a drastic move and killed the whole family!
Did you ever hear the story of John List?Lurker 123 said:
SD
I read through the story just now. A very similar situation to that Taiwanses family. The father was in huge debt somewhere over 10 million cdn date back to late 90s.shedevil said:
On the other hand this story about this psychopath has nothing to do with family values. Despite the fact it mentioned John wanted his family members to die as Christian.That has nothing to do with Christianity?
Nowadays people use religious to cover up lots of things. e.g. In Surrey there was a private religious school sheltered terrorists a few years back. Or so and so go to church,he or she doesn't lie or do bad things.
When I say religious values such as love your neighbours ,your family;thou shall not steal , murder or lie and etc. This is the reason why many parents would prefer to send their kids to traditional schools or church run schools where the basic family values still prevail.
This example of Shedevil is an extreme case as this John guy was a psychopath! But among some Asian cultures,committing suicide is not uncommon! I had heard many stories about teenage kids or university students who failed in examines or did not achieve up to their parents expectations, committed suicide. Which is very sad!
I respectfully disagree.Lurker 123 said:This example of Shedevil is an extreme case as this John guy was a psychopath! But among some Asian cultures,committing suicide is not uncommon! I had heard many stories about teenage kids or university students who failed in examines or did not achieve up to their parents expectations, committed suicide. Which is very sad!
This is a classic example of religion and ethics gone wrong. I do own the book based on this account. It's called "Thou Shalt Not Kill". This guy took the ethics of his religion and used it to justify his actions.
I guess I should have amplified my answer.
I know that the reason for most religious teachings is morals and ethics. This example is one of many.
However, I am not at all religious. I hate Catholicism. I spent much time investigating my hatred as I don't believe in blind hate. Or, hate that I know nothing about.
There are many other scenarios that come into play. Overall, I think that religion is good for the principles of it. IMO, most people that are catholic are only catholic for superiority complexes or to suit their agenda. Not for what it's meant to be.
Sunday Christians if you will, the ones who go to church after seeing SP's, drinking and beating their spouses.
Can you see what I am saying here? Ethics are mainly taught by family and re-enforced by religion. Does it mean that stopping prayer in public schools has to do with the decline of social values? Absolutely not.
People ultimately decide the course of their actions, and those who are weak, will hide behind it.
I should add that the reason he killed his whole family, was becuase suicide was wrong as a Lutheran. Do you see the irony?
SD
