Should Moussaoui get the death penalty?

[gravitas]

Moussaoui: 'No remorse' for 9/11
Al Qaeda plotter tells jury of his hatred for Americans
From Phil Hirschkorn

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Al Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui told a jury deciding whether he should live or die that he is willing to kill Americans "any time, anywhere."

Moussaoui testified at his sentencing trial Thursday that he had "no regret, no remorse" over the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and is disappointed that additional attacks were not carried out.

"I just wish it could have gone on the 12th, the 13th, the 14th, the 15th, the 16th, the 17th. We can go on and on," Moussaoui said.

"There's no remorse for justice." (Watch Moussaoui's disdain for survivors -- 2:00)

A 37-year-old French citizen, Moussaoui is the first person tried in this country for the September 11 attacks. Jurors already have held him responsible for at least some of the nearly 3,000 deaths on 9/11.

Moussaoui made a series of stunning statements under cross-examination by federal prosecutor Robert Spencer.

The prosecutor asked, "You would do it again tomorrow, Mr. Moussaoui?"

"Today," Moussaoui replied.

Asked if he was "happy" when the widow of a military officer testified about her husband's death in the Pentagon attack, Moussaoui said, "Make my day."

Asked about another officer who testified about his escape from the flaming military headquarters, Moussaoui said, "I was regretful he didn't die."

Chose to join al Qaeda
Moussaoui agreed with the prosecutor that it was his choice to join al Qaeda and swear allegiance to it is leader, Osama bin Laden.

"My pleasure," Moussaoui said when asked about being tapped for a suicide mission to fly a plane into a landmark U.S. building.

Asked if he would be willing to kill Americans in prison, Moussaoui responded, "Any time, anywhere."

Moussaoui testified that he rejects his court-appointed defense team's theory that he is mentally ill.

Asked if he is "crazy," Moussaoui said, "Thank God, I am not."

Yet Moussaoui said he believes President George W. Bush will free him from prison and that the FBI had him under surveillance after he arrived in the United States in February 2001. There is no such evidence.

Moussaoui told the jury that he did not want to die.

"I want to fight," he declared.

Moussaoui's responses to questions by his own attorney, Gerald Zerkin, were just as damaging.

Asked whether he had any remorse for the September 11 attacks, Moussaoui said, "None whatsover."

He explained, "We wanted to inflict pain on this country. I wish there would be more pain."

'You have to be subdued'
He said his hatred for the United States was rooted in American support for Israel, its treatment of Muslim nations and his interpretation of the Quran that Muslims must fight against those who don't share their beliefs.

"We have to be the superpower, we have to be above you, and you have to be subdued," Moussaoui said. "You organize the misery of the world."

Moussaoui told jurors his preferred defense strategy would have been to argue that his life has value because he could be used as a "bargaining chip" to save American lives.

Moussaoui offered a scenario in which Americans fighting abroad might be taken hostage and he could be negotiated away in exchange.

"This could work on even the most revengeful juror," Moussaoui said. "Let's put him in jail, and one day he can save American life."

Moussaoui said he also would tell the jury that martyrdom is a reward, and that life in prison is harsher punishment.

Moussaoui sparred with Zerkin about how his court-appointed defense team has represented him over the past four years. He said he regarded his lawyers' performance as "criminal non-assistance of defense counsel."

Zerkin has told jurors that mental health experts will testify that Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic who suffers from delusions. Moussaoui's defense team plans to call those experts next week.

"I thought your idea to portray me as crazy was not going to work," Moussaoui said.

Second time on stand
Thursday's testimony marked the second time the jury has heard from Moussaoui.

Moussaoui claimed on March 27 that he had advance knowledge that the World Trade Center was targeted in the September 11 plot. He also testified that had he not been incarcerated, he would have attempted to pilot a fifth hijacked jet into the White House.

The testimony damaged his defense, which was vigorously contesting the government's theory that Moussaoui's lies to federal investigators in August 2001 kept U.S. authorities from uncovering and thwarting the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Zerkin asked Moussaoui if he thought his earlier testimony had helped his case.

"I thought about the consequences of saying I was part of 9/11. I decided to put my trust in my God," Moussaoui said.

"I understand from a non-Islamic view, it is contradictory," Moussaoui explained to Zerkin. "But we will never understand each other."

Moussaoui claims one of his purported hijacking crew members was Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber" who attempted to detonate homemade explosives in his sneakers on board an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001. Reid, 33, pleaded guilty to terrorism charges in 2002 and is serving a life sentence.

Terrorist subpoenaed
Brinkema has issued a subpoena for Reid to testify in the Moussaoui trial next week. Moussaoui and Reid attended the same mosque in the Brixton section of London and trained together in Afghanistan.

"He was my buddy," Moussaoui said Thursday. The men have attempted to correspond while incarcerated in the United States.

On the stand, Moussaoui said he never actually discussed the September 11 plot with Reid. He said al Qaeda's late military leader, Mohammed Atef, told him Reid would be part of his crew, but they never met again.

Before Moussaoui took the stand, the jury heard from a retired prison warden, James Aiken, who is now a corrections industry consultant.

Aiken said Moussaoui would be isolated in his cell at the nation's supermaximum security prison in Florence, Colorado. He would take his meals alone, be under constant surveillance, and sleep on a mattress fitted to a concrete slab.

Rehabilitation is not part of the program, Aiken testified. The U.S. prison system is designed to "manage people like this for the rest of the natural life," he said.

"They rot."

No surprise for anyone who knows me that I think they should just croak this toad.....anyone else agree or am I alone?
*poll wording shamelessly stolen from Global TV

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

How about:
No, because he has comitted no crime...yet. Fuckin' yank administration would lock up everybody they thought even remotely had the ability or capacity to harm them.
Or am I wrong. Is knowing and not acting written into the criminal code?

To answer the question in a broader sense, 'Should a person known to have comitted an act of terrorism be sentenced to death?", the answer is still No.
No, because the shitheel should spend his remaining days pickin' up the soap and bein' Bubba's bitch.

 

[BC visitor]

If he knew the attack was going to happen and he did not inform LE about it he is guilty of conspiracy. I don't know if this type of conspiracy is a felony or not in federal court but if it is Felony Murder will make a murder case.

That is why is was so important for the prosecution to show he knew about the attack then they questioned him.

But then I'm not a lawyer or anything.

 

[stryker]

I'd be more than happy to pull the trigger!!

 

[HankQuinlan]

You didn't provide all the options.

"No, because the death penalty is morally wrong" would be my choice.

 

[hargow]

yes

obviously. oh wait, i forgot we're on the left coast. perhaps it's not that obvious to all. it sure the hell is to me though.

 

[wolverine]

The man obviously wants to die and be a martyr to his cause.

I say deny him that glory.
I say lock him up for life so he can be the catcher for an extremely large prisoner nicknamed the "Starfish Ripper".

 

[Randy Whorewald]

I vote thumbs down - kill the fokker! If they want call him a martyr thats ok by me. Much cheaper than keeping the scumbag fed, housed and buttfucked the rest of his life.

 

[georgebushmoron]

I get the feeling that justice is going to be meted out not for the sake of justice, but for the sake of revenge, and they are seeking to be make him pay for more than his fair share of the crime just because he is the only one they could get their hands on. Moussaoui, for his part, probably wants the death penalty. It will be justification for his cause in his mind. Nothing would be worse for him than to be kept alive in a jail cell forever. Luckily for him they are seeking to execute him as soon as possible, though they can barely hide that fact.

 

[shedevil]

My most favorite expression:

"Fuck em'."

 

[The Lizard King]

Should Moussaoui get the death penalty?

Sure...about the same time George W. Bush does.

 

[nyx]

Burn the witch!!!

Dance ya little monkey
for the fucking people

Dance like a demon and
Scare all the sheeple

"You see Jaaaahhhn.... their faith is waverin'... They need a little boost, see... Say some shit will ya. Get em all riled up again. Get em screamin for blood and fucking guts and big death sandwich. Get em screamin for the chair. Say some shit on the TV tonight. It werks everytime... an' don't worry 'bout a thing, we got a nice little paradise filled with 40 bon-o-fide virgins for ya an' all you's need to do is play yer part."

All this commie terrorist liberal inspired hate speak is bound to piss someone off! Better get me a raincoat before the shit starts flying.

 

[Ray]

Hang him high

He's story has changed so many times.
I don't know if he was connected in any way. He doesn't come across as very mentally stable.

He seems to have resigned himself to the knowledge that he isn't ever going to be released, so now is telling the story that he was in fact 'in the know'.
He probably wants to be 'martyred' rather than rot in jail for the rest of his life.
Give him his wish.

 

[planetsmurf]

I'd be more than happy to pull the trigger!!

i would be right there with you cheering you on

 

[gravitas]

I'd be more than happy to pull the trigger!!

I think they should auction that privilege on eBay or hold a lottery....I'd pony up a couple of hundred bucks for the chance to plant one between his horns

I say deny him that glory.

I'd agree with that logic only if the following were met:
-build a special jail cell on wheels that drives up and down Las Vegas Blvd (aka "the strip") so he can be force fed American excess
-the crazy fuck is fed nothing but bacon, pork chops and ham sandwiches
-24 x 7 broadcasts of jimmy swagart, benny hinn, jerry falwell, robert tilton and pat robertson into his jail cell
-if he gets time in the exercise yard there should be a steady stream of topless white chicks with breast enhancements parading around on the other side of the fence
-only allowed to bath in holy water

I should state that I am in no way a racist against the Muslim faith but this dink has warped his religion so much that it would only be fair to hit him where it hurts.

for the sake of revenge

I would have disagreed with that logic until the testimony he gave over the past two days and that's brought out the revenge factor and honestly don't blame the families of those killed on 9-11 or all other Americans. That sick fuck Moussaoui was grinning and goading people on with his comments and total lack of anything that would resemble decent human behavior. So for that alone he should fry.

Moussaoui, for his part, probably wants the death penalty.

Actually he figures he's going to be set free.....says he had a dream where your name sake set him free.

He is a piece of shit who has not one iota of remorse for the pain and damage he's advertly or inadvertly contributed to.

Never mind a 'Survivor party'....I'd be hosting a 'Moussaoui dies party.

I don't think I've ever wanted to have sex with you more then the way I feel right now!
p.s. incase you missed it while you were away this is hifisex

 

[maverick73]

I don't think I've ever wanted to have sex with you more then the way I feel right now!
p.s. incase you missed it while you were away this is hifisex

Anybody with a half a brain could tell it was you.... after all, your quote "there's a subtle perfection in everything I do. I have my own standards, my own way" is a dead giveaway . That being said, I guess Hatrick and me have less than half a brain since we were probably the last 2 to figure it out...lol.

As for Moussaoui, I say we keep him alive and do some lab experiments on him to aid medical research... you know... to make up for what he's done... take some lives, contribute to saving some lives... it works!

By the time we're done with him, he'll be a medical freak that looks like one of those mutants from the movie Total Recall.

 

[dirtydan]

The guy didn't really have big role in the 9/11 attacks and executing him serves two pathetic purposes. One is his desire to become a Martyr. Two, the hard-on for any kind of revenge a good chunk of the US population wants. Killing tens of thousands of Iraqis just isn't enough, especially when the Iraqi count among the 9/11 terrorists was zero. It's pretty much a case of lynching anybody regardless of who he is.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

I would let him go and run an intel op using him as bait.
Track him, see who he contacts ... guys like that are homing pigeons.
Killing him would be exactly what he wants, keeping him alive sets a bad precedent saying to terrorists it's alright to do jihad and shopping around the world.
Let him go and see who contacts or better yet, track him and later on spread rumours that he cut a deal. I highly doubt his islamic brothers would be so nice to traitors. Having him executed by the very people he was ready to die for would be poetic justice.

 

[maxx50]

gather round the flag???

Doesd anyone here remeber ?


"1984"

 

[badwolfcgy]

I think a just punishment is Death by Bacon.

Feed this scumbag ham, bacon and pork, then drown him in pig shit.
He isn't even worth feeding to the pigs.