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Dickson

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Dickson, remember the good moments... Savour the memories of those. And forget the bad and negative, for they have gone.

And true friends are those that cannot be bought with money...
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With that definition of a friend is like seeking to ride a unicorn. Everyone is bought and sold. Speaking from a guy who has never had a friend.
 

stamina

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With that definition of a friend is like seeking to ride a unicorn. Everyone is bought and sold. Speaking from a guy who has never had a friend.
I am not sure about your experience but have you given large sums of money to charities? You might get a high off of "buying" a relationship from those who are truly in need. Charities will bend over backwards for $1,000 which is much less than you spend on an encounter. I don't know, but you sound like the kind of guy who would like the feeling of buying an organization for an emotional high. Some charities that would benefit are the Food Bank of Greater Vancouver, Contributing to the Lives of Inner City Kids, and the Union Gospel Mission.
 

Elmore

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I am not sure about your experience but have you given large sums of money to charities? You might get a high off of "buying" a relationship from those who are truly in need. Charities will bend over backwards for $1,000 which is much less than you spend on an encounter. I don't know, but you sound like the kind of guy who would like the feeling of buying an organization for an emotional high. Some charities that would benefit are the Food Bank of Greater Vancouver, Contributing to the Lives of Inner City Kids, and the Union Gospel Mission.
I was thinking the same thing. Even taking a trip to less fortunate parts of the world and seeing those in need who can be helped. That sort of thing changes us and makes us better people sometimes...the sort of people that others are drawn to a bit more.
 

Dickson

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I am not sure about your experience but have you given large sums of money to charities? You might get a high off of "buying" a relationship from those who are truly in need. Charities will bend over backwards for $1,000 which is much less than you spend on an encounter. I don't know, but you sound like the kind of guy who would like the feeling of buying an organization for an emotional high. Some charities that would benefit are the Food Bank of Greater Vancouver, Contributing to the Lives of Inner City Kids, and the Union Gospel Mission.
Yes been doing that for years. I have two foundations that I support. I have professional chasing me and I hate that I get more satisfaction from watching the eyes of a SP who is a single mom when I do some thing to help her or.give her an experience that makes her tear up. As one guy on TERB I am playing with emotions. That is why those guys want to.put me on a cross in Toronto. They say do not play with SPs emotions.

I like to see them smile laugh and have other emotions like joy, happiness, love. But in this game others have said it is not about emotion. It is fuck them then urinate on them fuck them up their ass then leave them as that is more human than touching their emotion.

What is this thing love any way? We love ice cream, we love our car. We use the word but heaven for bid we use it with an SP. Really?

I do not know I have never been in love and no one will ever love me. But you guys throw it around alot and step.on it and trash it. But never I relationship to a SP.

I just want to.be wanted, to be desires, "loved" for the time I am with a SP. I just want to feel special. Why is that so wrong? It is like I am some kind of guy who is crazy. I do have a therapist and he thinks seeing Escorts is healthy. He calls it fake it to make it.
 

stamina

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It is fuck them then urinate on them fuck them up their ass then leave them as that is more human than touching their emotion.
Who is offering this service? This is at least the second time that you mentioned this today.
 

hankmoody

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I just want to.be wanted, to be desires, "loved" for the time I am with a SP. I just want to feel special. Why is that so wrong? It is like I am some kind of guy who is crazy.
Nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't mind some myself.

I've never been a "Penthouse reviewer". I rarely review anymore for a variety of reasons. In the spirit of giving back i will chime in if they are asking about someone i've met.
 

thodisipagal

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Interesting topic the "Penthouse forum reviews". Do you really want to know? Let start with reviews in general. I have found over the years that reviews are very dangerous. It is a no win situation. I go though a period when I write a lot of reviews. Then after getting attacked by members of a board, persecuted by SPs, being banned from agencies, having SPs refusing to see me, and threatening PMs, I stop. Some members of a board even think because of what I do with SPs it reduces other pooner's chances of getting good service. Really? But ok......

I never review in Europe. I think it is like crapping in you own back yard. Might be easy but it can sure smell up the neighborhood. Making it very unattractive to live there.

I use to review in Toronto but then a recent negative review I wrote blew up in my face and so have so many other reviews in the past. So pulled back there as well. I still think there is a cross on Young street with my name on it with a number of people holding a match. This is especially true when you mess with people's emotions. Ok to fuck someone up the ass and urinate on them is ok but do not ask for emotional simulation. One SP told me that she would rather be called a whore, be fucked hard, and short changed than have to survive a day at the spa, have dinner with me, and be given gifts and do any over night with me. Go figure.

I have learned on Perb it is a no win situation as well. If you do a negative one you get attacked by the white knights and SPs. If you do a good one you can feel the sarcasm in the responses and your reviews are asked to be pulled. As one Perb member pointed out he would not see a SP I saw because of the gushing review I would post. So now I do them more for me. So I do only the good ones that bring back good memories. Sorry it is every man for himself. No one believes what you write anyway so what is the point.

I find it funny a review is like a car accident everyone wants to take a peek but no one wants to own it. It should be the other guy who takes it on the chin. Many SPs hate them as it hurts their business once they are established. They say they are not "kiss and tell" ladies. Only at the beginning when ladies are attempting to get established do reviews serve a purpose. Many established ladies have a "no review policy". Her regulars do not want to know what she does with other clients. It makes them feel, well "less special".

I recently did a bunch for the memories and did not realize that good reviews can be so damaging for a SPs. Sharing our experience was a problem as her other high end clients read them and those clients were hurt as it took away from there experience with her. Her clients kept asking the SP why don't you do that with me. So I had them removed. I do not write them to hurt any one. It is to recall positive memories and to make my experience more enjoyable.

On the style. I use to write the short versions. But as the objective changed so did my style. Moving from the L, A, B, S type to the so call "Penthouse style" allows me to relive the moment in the style I like. You need to ask the SP what she likes. Most do not like them, especially if it hurts her client's Impression of her. High end ladies do not like them at all. Not good for business. Even wonder why the best SPs have few reviews. Those starting out need them but the high end ladies live off referrals outside Reviews. One SP told me many of the high end clients would never see a lady on PERB. Interesting. The high end clients seek other ladies, lower volume, exclusive ladies. High end clients to not want to know what she does with others, only what she will do for him. Who wants other guys seconds? You want to stick your face where a guy just blew his load?

On prior approval of reviews. Yes, in most cases I have the SP review it and comment on her take of the event. Now I am asking the SP to give me her take on the night and I like to compare our vision of the night. All Off line of course. What was her take on what happened? It makes it so much more enjoyable for me to feel special.

Since most of my dates are dinner dates and over nights and involve some type of event. I have much more to recall than a one hour or two hour roll in bed. Mine tend to require more planning and a number of elements. Recently just did one where I had the SP spend the day at the spa. Then had her come to me in a limo service. Brought her up to the penthouse suite to be met by two guitar players and singers. Had the room decorated with a Christmas tree, candles, in a holiday theme. Then had dinner served, by our own private waiter, in the room we were the serenading took place. A little private dancing. Which turned into a karaoke event, her singing with the guys. This was followed by a two hour special visit by a SP that my SP wanted to see for her total pleasure. Followed by an over night for the two of us. Not sure I can do it justice in a few paragraphs. Does not matter as I would not review her again, too much trouble for her, her clients, and me. Many of the PERB members dislike my reviews so what is the point. They provide no value for those members. As one member put it. "Just the Facts" "just the facts". Does she dfk and bbbj? Besides they can not relate to my events as they are totally foreign to many who are interest in just a half hour, one or two hour date. Now I just review for my own pleasure. Maybe I am getting too old for this.

I have had a SP review my review and approve it. Then I was asked to remove it and or change it once it was posted. Her other clients did not like it. I think the one that stung the most was when she ask me to take it off because it was too explicit. Then when I did she posted one that was as explicit as what I wrote. To add to that others were as explicit as mine. There are other elements that were coming to play. But the review was the symptom not the disease.

I normally do not keeps lists or keep notes on the SPs I have seen over the years. I do remember special moments with those special ladies I have had the pleasure of seeing. I wonder if they remember me. But it is like the wind on a hot Spanish night. It comes and goes. If you wait there will another one to follow. Each as beautify as the last. But in that moment it feels so good! Don't get attached as it will be gone as soon as you blink an eye. Don't feel bad another one will be by in a heart beat.

Over all reviews are not a good thing. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. But that is just my opinion and I have learned my opinion does not mean much any more.

But I could not resist this topic.
This could be my Ph.D. thesis or a novel. One that's written on Xmas day. I admire people who find time away from friends and families to write a novel.

But my prof would ask, what's your thesis, what's your hypothesis, what's your conclusion? Or, my agent would ask, who's the protagonist, who's the antagonist? What's your plot?
 

hornygandalf

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Not hard on my self just reflecting the reality of what I receive from others. Once things start to pile up from multiple posters and multiple SPs there becomes a pattern. That pattern has been based on a life time of experiences. Not complaining. It is like gravity it is just who I am and I come to expected. It is life my friend.

... I have no redeeming qualities other than the dollars I throw around. Be honest you would not had dinner with me if I was not buying you dinner and bringing Catherine along? Why would you? Does it matter? Not really. It is life my friend. I am use to it. I pay people to get what I want. They do what I pay them to do.nothing more nothing less.
Dickson, my friend. I've just gone back reading over some recent posts and saw this, and I have to respond.
I disagree with you on a couple of points here. One is that you do have redeeming qualities aside from the wealth you have been blessed with.
I enjoyed your company when we had dinner. Money had nothing to do with it.

And you misread me if you think I only had dinner because you were paying and Ms James was joining us. I would have had dinner with you anyway, even if Ms James hadn't joined us. And I would have been happy to pay for my own dinner... particularly if it was a place a little more in my budget range.
Next time, dinner is on me.

Dickson, if you can put your money to one side and meet people on their own terms and their own turf, as equals, I think friendship would entirely be possible.
You have accomplished many things in life, but there is an inner mind game that I suspect you have yet to conquer. Maybe it is at a subconscious level, but it is as if you expect to be rejected or cast out. I'm going to respond to some of your other comments elsewhere, but I wonder if you are subconsciously sabotaging relationships, which is why you have this ongoing pattern in your life.
 

hornygandalf

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Thanks

With that definition of a friend is like seeking to ride a unicorn. Everyone is bought and sold. Speaking from a guy who has never had a friend.
For those who don't like rambling posts, you might want to move on at this point...

Maybe there is a question of definition here, but I'm not sure. If you mean when you say "[e]veryone is bought and sold" as financial exchange is the basis of any relationship, then I disagree. If you mean that this statement refers to a reciprocity in the relationship, then you probably are right.

There are many kinds of exchange and currency used, but when it is purely monetary, then frequently it can get messy. Money has this way of messing things up and corrupting otherwise good relationships.

Money as an exchange for emotions is a very fragile and dangerous area. It can certainly accompany other means of exchange, but on its own it is problematic. Which may be part of the reason for your pattern of breakups with different SPs.

I have been thinking about some of your recent posts over the last couple of days, and wonder if subconsciously you have been sabotaging relationships with ladies, such as Ms James, when you start getting too close. And whether the monetary exchange for emotional connection becomes too much for the ladies... that they need an exchange on another level as well. Maybe I'm just talking out of the top of my head and don't know what I'm talking about, but from what I have read over a period of time, there is a pattern. If you are at a subconscious level the architect of relationship breakups, then it may also be possible to break and change that pattern.

I can understand your grief at breaking up with Ms James. It saddened me to read of that, and it did leave me with the question of 'why'?
I suspect some of the threads you commented on over the last couple of days have been removed... as I can't find them now to respond to. I know you made comments in a couple of places as how Lancealot, BadgerJohn and myself were in some ways preferable to the likes of Ms James. I disagree. We are all men with particular strengths and flaws individual to us. We make the best of the strengths we have, but that doesn't mean we don't also have flaws and areas of weakness. I certainly do. Many a time have I wished that I was taller than I am. Do you know how many women don't want to go out with someone shorter than they are? And that is just a starting point. But, I don't worry about that now. If women can't accept me for who I am and how I am now, then I have to move on, albeit possibly with some sadness.
We ALL have strengths and weaknesses. You are no less because your strength is in your ability to pay for elaborate fantasies rather than other areas. You are a good person at heart, Dickson. And if you don't mask that with extravagant spending... or see the solution to every problem is throwing money at it, then I'm sure that ladies will see and appreciate you for who you are. Part of that is loving yourself and seeing yourself, not as a wounded orphan, but as a wonderful man who has so much to give (aside from the money). You have accomplished a lot in business. You have come a long way from your roots. But, there is more you can give from your heart... that doesn't depend on monetary exchange.

You want to be loved, appreciated, to bring smiles to the faces of people, to connect with people, and you can do that. You don't need to rely on material goods and gifts to do that. Somewhere else someone suggested that you give some of your money away, and you noted that you already do that. Will, of course you do, because you do have a good heart... and you need to be confident in your goodness. But, maybe it would also help to serve in a soup kitchen (or similar), dishing out plates of food to the homeless... as everyone is looking to connect, to be loved and appreciated. And you can do that with the simple act of a smile, of connecting with a homeless person as you hand them some food, to let them know that they are worthy in themselves.

I understand the need to be loved, appreciated and respected in a relationship. I and many others are looking for the same thing.
Finding that on an enduring basis through paying a courtesan is only going to provide a short-term benefit. My friend, I suspect that you are wanting that on a long-term basis (maybe on a subconscious level), but don't believe you can ever achieve it. Although not impossible, finding it among sex professionals is not a recipe for success on a long-term basis. But, you know that already. You know you can achieve that for short periods of time through paying for it... but I think you want more.

Guess I ended up rambling...
 
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