Let's make a deal...

[curvy_nympho]

...NOT!

Yes, this is a rant. Today, someone decided to bargain with me based on length of time and activities for a session. When I firmly stated my rate and limitations, he said, "Let's make a better deal."

Last time I checked, I was not a car with a "sticker price" and a neogtiated price. Sheesh!

Does that happen a lot to other SP's?

It hasn't happened to me very much as my rate is time based and I find out exactly what a client wants to have happen in that time. I don't have separate rates for different things.

I understand that clients want to be careful with their $$. That's why I ask so many questions about what they want, I send numerous pictures and take requests for what to wear, etc.

Ok, I am done now! Just needed to vent!

Bella

 

[georgebushmoron]

I couldn't agree more with you. Even before I had my own SP-GF, I always found that kind of behaviour to be demeaning to a woman - when she's already (in my opinion), in the unfavorable bargaining position in this job. Frankly, that sex and companionship can be bought is, I believe, against the fundamental nature of sex and companionship. But nevertheless what a person chooses to do with their body is their own business, including selling services based on it. With this in mind, it should never be bartered.

That's my take on it. Call me what you will, but I stand on this principle.

 

[muffdiver]

I agree 100%, a sp charges what she feels her time is worth and it should never be negotiated or discussed , very distasteful on his part.

 

[LaCreme]

...NOT!

Yes, this is a rant. Today, someone decided to bargain with me based on length of time and activities for a session. When I firmly stated my rate and limitations, he said, "Let's make a better deal."

Last time I checked, I was not a car with a "sticker price" and a neogtiated price. Sheesh!

Does that happen a lot to other SP's?

It hasn't happened to me very much as my rate is time based and I find out exactly what a client wants to have happen in that time. I don't have separate rates for different things.

I understand that clients want to be careful with their $$. That's why I ask so many questions about what they want, I send numerous pictures and take requests for what to wear, etc.

Ok, I am done now! Just needed to vent!

Bella

that why i dont deal with cheap ass dude! bring it on love

 

[nube]

I don't understand...

I guess its just me, but I can understand how a person could even think of such a thing. It must say a lot about a person who would assume that an SP would give a discount,and then provide her services with a smile on her face, and pretend that she is having a good time too!

I would NEVER question the price asked - either I can afford it or not. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I really respect the ladies and while i am paying them, I would like them to enjoy themselves too. I know its a tall order, but i try to do my best.

I guess the way i look at it, is I ask for a GFE, the least I can do is be a BFE. I am not niave enough to think, that she'll think I am the best she ever had, of course not! But I do at least want them to remember me, if not for my sexual activites, but at least for just who I am.

And I hope I never change .....

So curvy_nympho - don't waste your time with these guys, you may lose a client, and you may lose a transaction, but you will keep your dignity -- and that's priceless.

 

[Aynia]

Happens more of late

I actually posted a similar "rant" on another board. I am really not sure what is going on, but in the past couple weeks I have had several little issues either with repeat cliental making up there own rates or telephone chats with guys trying to negotiate the price.

My prices are very fair, and I am generous with my time and discounts for regulars, the best is when they say " I may be a regular" well... once we have established that, then I will suggest a little bit of a discount.

I have also had to start checking the donations ( which I hate to do and have not done in the past) because I have had one or two take it upon themselves to "discount"

Last little pet peeve.... Those who know my rates, have seen me and then at the end of the session " how much do I owe you"... Guys, what an awkward position to put the lady in, I don't care what happened/didn't happen or happened twice, my rates are for time spent and you know the rates, so why put a lady on the spot.

SOO... yes, I feel your pain

 

[1shiningstar]

I'm feeling that. I have one jerk-face who keeps trying to get me to give him a BJ for $40 in his car. I know some guys don't like it, but I insist upon cash upfront (except from my regulars) because I have been ripped off, or even had guys tell me they 'forgot' their wallets. On a better note though, most of the people I have met have been very respectful and thoroughly enjoyable.

Treat your SP nicely and she'll return the favour guys!

Star*

 

[SFMIKE]

Supply and Demand

The seller sets the price, the buyer gets to decide if the price fits in his range. If the price is too high, he is free to move on.

However, since the supply (SP's) is so great in Vancouver and the price range so spread out, it might affect the demand for their services. Sometimes it is a very tough call to make.

 

[mick_eight]

I couldn't agree more with you. Even before I had my own SP-GF, I always found that kind of behaviour to be demeaning to a woman - when she's already (in my opinion), in the unfavorable bargaining position in this job. Frankly, that sex and companionship can be bought is, I believe, against the fundamental nature of sex and companionship. But nevertheless what a person chooses to do with their body is their own business, including selling services based on it. With this in mind, it should never be bartered.

That's my take on it. Call me what you will, but I stand on this principle.

In some parts of the world , you are looked upon as week and cowardly if you don't bargain. I don't think it would be wise to forget this. A hostle response by SPs may lose them otherwise good regulars.

 

[Aynia]

In some parts of the world , you are looked upon as week and cowardly if you don't bargain. I don't think it would be wise to forget this. A hostle response by SPs may lose them otherwise good regulars.

So true and I do try to consider both sides... but no less frustrating when it happens repeatedly in a short stretch of time

 

[curvy_nympho]

I am never rude to anyone, but I do think I am entitled to be assertive about what I will and will not do. I understand that in some cultures, bargaining is the norm. I just think that this situation is a little different than bargaining for electronics or a car or fruit or whatever it may be.

I am not worried about "losing a client" by being firm about my rate. I do this part-time as part of my fantasy world. I pick and choose who I want to see based on whether or not I think there will be a connection and a delightful experience for both of us.

I just needed to rant a little. I do appreciate the regulars I see who know that I will do my best to accomodate their wishes and that I go the "extra mile" with my time and caring.

Bella

 

[georgebushmoron]

In some parts of the world , you are looked upon as week and cowardly if you don't bargain. I don't think it would be wise to forget this. A hostle response by SPs may lose them otherwise good regulars.

That is true in many parts of Asia and the Middle East and Latin America. But bargaining for 3 chickens is quite different from bargaining for a blow job. In many of those parts of the world, if you bargain for it, you might also get a kick in the nuts along with counter offer.

 

[sarahpassion]

Yes and you gotta love the...

So how much if I just wanna BJ? Well My donation for my time is clearly stated, but for you because you are so eloquent I will give you a different rate.

 

[mick_eight]

That is true in many parts of Asia and the Middle East and Latin America. But bargaining for 3 chickens is quite different from bargaining for a blow job. In many of those parts of the world, if you bargain for it, you might also get a kick in the nuts along with counter offer.

Ya but GBM you have to know how, when, where. I have never had a problem. But I was in a cantina in Cabo once and saw a Merican get a tune up.

 

[Avery]

In some parts of the world , you are looked upon as week and cowardly if you don't bargain. I don't think it would be wise to forget this. A hostle response by SPs may lose them otherwise good regulars.

It's a cultural thing. It's considered rude here to attempt to bargain with escorts who advertise their rates, and I would never attempt that. However, in the past, I have bargained with ladies who work hotel bars, when they have quoted what I know to be higher than the going rate. They usually expect to bargain a little, especially later in the evening.

In other parts of the world, particularly in Asia, Mick is absolutely right. You're a fool if you agree to the first rate a lady quotes. In the pickup bars of Beijing, ladies usually start at 1000 RMB (about C$135) for a short time (i.e. one SOG). A wise client counters with 600, SP with 800, client with 700, and a deal is struck. That's the way it is, and it's expected. No one's feelings are hurt; no one is insulted. In other Chinese cities, the rates are usually a lot lower than in Beijing, but the process is identical.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Either counter offer with a higher price, ortell him that a bulk purchase *might* get a discount. (ie, 10 sessions or more, no refunds etc)

 

[Saraphina]

I don't believe in the squeeky wheel getting the oil....

I say shoot the squeeky wheel and replace it with a wheel that needs less maintenance.

A hostle response by SPs may lose them otherwise good regulars.

Losing a potential regular who tries to bargain is A-OK in my books. People who try and bargain when booking a session will soon find their ass on my "fired clients" list. From my experience people who try and bargain right in the beginning have just demonstrated that they have no sense of respecting agreements/boundaries. It general starts off with the money element, then translate to pushing for more time and/or then pushing for more services that aren't on the menu. The "potential regular" carrot being dangled over me isn't much insentive, when I will progressively get more irritated and annoyed and hate my sessions with such clients, which inturn would lead me to be bitter and jaded about this biz. Quite frankly I don't want those kind of regulars who make me feel that way. I only have so much time to give as an SP and quite frankly I would rather fill my time with men I like and enjoy. Men who operate with utmost respect, thoughtfulness and never cross boundaries, will often find that they are rewarded by spontaneous generous acts on my part.

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

Everyone is in business to provide a good or service. An SP is no different, she selling fucking and blowjobs. Once anything becomes a commodity for sale or rent dont be offended when someone tries to get a better deal. People bargain when they buy a house or a car and sometimes even do the same for buying a TV. Once you strart selling your ass its no different. If this offends you so much maybe you should consider finding something thats of a less personal nature to you to sell.

 

[Saraphina]

Everyone is in business to provide a good or service. An SP is no different, she selling fucking and blowjobs. Once anything becomes a commodity for sale or rent dont be offended when someone tries to get a better deal. People bargain when they buy a house or a car and sometimes even do the same for buying a TV. Once you strart selling your ass its no different. If this offends you so much maybe you should consider finding something thats of a less personal nature to you to sell.

I guess it's just annoying and maybe I shouldn't take it so offensively when people try and bargain. I still will put them on the fired clients list for the same reasons though. Because it still is an act of not being able to respect agreements/boundaries. Some people might be more ok with that then myself. But I certainly don't like it or have to put up with it. I don't think if I went to Gotham(highend) or Denny's (low end) and insisted on a lower price that they would give it to me, even if they were losing out on a potential client. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the employees respoded offendedly. You are correct that this business is very personal. But one shouldn't quit if they don't like people who bargain.... that is pretty extreme considering there is plenty of men who have great manners who don't bargain. The men who bargain in reality are a very small part of a pooning population. I just don't see any need to cater to them.

 

[kalel]

i think it works both ways. everybody wants to be paid top dollar for what they do but unfortunately for this industry you have good customers, bad customers, top notch providers, and some women who think that once they open their legs they are entitled to an hours pay whether they smile or snarl. i think there are women who are worth every penny and then some that should be banned from being sp's because their attitude stinks.

there are some who will quote higher than going rate to a newbie just because they think they will get it. when men realize that all they had to do was ask for a better rate and they would have gotten it, they remember that for the next sp. and as much as this sounds racial, it's predominantly the amp's that will continue the bargaining system. life gets rough when you are the kind of person who doesn't like to bargain but it exists because there are many who put up with it.