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Iron Mike Is Gone

ValleyGuy

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TSN reports Mike Keenan has resigned in Florida. Did the Luongo trade have any bearing on this or what are your thoughts? Is Pat Quinn a possible replacement?
 

JustAGuy

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Mike Keenan wears out his welcome with every team sooner or later so it's no surprise that he and the Panthers have parted company. I'm sure his resignation was just one step ahead of the team sacking him. The team has already announced that head coach Jacques Martin will do double duties as GM so I guess that leaves that hopelessly inept evaluator of talent Pat Quinn still looking for gainful employment.
 

bartendr

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Maybe the moose will drag his rechid bones out of retirement,join keenan somewhere and make a futile run at being a pretend leader,using his size 21 noggin along with his size 21 ego to support the fact that they are both useless p.o.s.'s anyways.
 

KYG

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Vancouver should be somewhat grateful to Iron Mike considering he was the one who traded Trevor Linden for Todd Bertuzzi, Brian McCabe and a draft pick who turned out to be Jarko Ruutu. We eventually got Linden back for a draft pick from Washington.

Also, Naslund and Adrian Aucoin both developed as stars when coached by Keenan.

Lastly, we wouldn't have gotten Luongo if Keenan didn't want to deal with Nonis.
 

totravel

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The question is did Keenan want to do the deals in Florida or did someone else there force him to?
Aquiring Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk last year was of very dubious value, and Ed Belfour, even at a bargain basement price will be as well. Bertuzzi is a huge gamble, the only good thing going for it is he might do better in a place where he can be completely out of the spotlight. (The trade was forced because Luongo refused the Panthers contract offer.)
I think the timing of his resignation would indicate he wasn't in favor of this summers deals.
 

The Lizard King

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Whether anybody likes him or not, he keeps finding work. His career seemed to hit the wall after '96, the year the Blues went for it by trading for Gretzky. Someone will hire him again.

Aquiring Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk last year was of very dubious value
Don't know about that. They're both winners and real pros and their influence on young guys like Horton, Weiss, Bouwmeester, Stewart, Olesz, and McArdle will only help the franchise in the longterm. Ask the Leafs how much they missed them. I wonder if Roberts will turn Bertuzzi around?
 

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The Lizard King said:
Whether anybody likes him or not, he keeps finding work. His career seemed to hit the wall after '96, the year the Blues went for it by trading for Gretzky. Someone will hire him again.
That's because he's perceived as being the perfect coach for a certain type of team, namely one that is older and ought to have a shot at winning the whole ball of wax but which, for one reason or another, isn't performing up to par. Having Mike Keenan come in and kick some ass for a year or two might provide the necessary ingredient that puts the team over the top. But his history of alienating players with his dictatorial style and of not being especially effective with younger players means that his shelf life is pretty limited with any given team that hires him as a coach.

He's not unlike the late Billy Martin, who managed the Yankees on several occasions. He wasn't particularly effective with younger players but "Billy Ball" worked great with older teams where his talents weren't wasted by having to be a teacher or a babysitter. He was able to get the most out of older players and even though he was often at odds with owner George Steinbrenner, George kept bringing him back to manage the club whenever he felt that Martin was the missing ingredient needed to turn the Yankees from also rans to world champs.

As far as being a general manager, Keenan has a knack for being able to piss off team owners and/or be pissed off by them. The idea situation for him would probably be to own a team and make himself general manager/coach with a lifetime contract. :)
 

totravel

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The Lizard King said:
Don't know about that. They're both winners and real pros and their influence on young guys like Horton, Weiss, Bouwmeester, Stewart, Olesz, and McArdle will only help the franchise in the longterm. Ask the Leafs how much they missed them. I wonder if Roberts will turn Bertuzzi around?
That is if they can keep playing long term, at their ages injuries are taking their toll. Nieuwendyk lasted 65 games getting 56 pts, Roberts 58 games and 40 pts.
Not bad for a pair of 40yr olds, but how much longer?
I doubt if anyone can turn Bertuzzi around. He's got to change his attitude problem himself. (as Todd is fond of saying "It is what it is").
 

bartendr

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I wonder who else like turn thier career into a 'follow Mike around and be his whipping boy',Messier did it-is Burt next!?
 
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