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JessicaPrabbit

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My intention for making this post is simply to share a point of view, not to change standards or menu item definitions (if there truly are any set in stone) ...and especially not as an insult to any girl who offers an exceptional gfe session at a $$$ premium or higher.

I post this thread in a small way to 'come out of the closet' as the service provider with exceptional reviews but seemingly not much in the way of 'menu items' to back up those compliments.

I realize many of my theories are out of step with the masses but I am happy and content providing each client with a unique session catered to them at the highest truthful level of comfort in the most real and honest way. I simply can not offer items on a 'menu' to every client unconditionally. Perhaps the following example will help to make clear that I don't mean to be malicious to anyone with that statement.

I hope this does not come across horribly~ The gents who visit to meet in studios; there may have been a lady or two with whom you would NOT share gfe based on any number of things ...yes you know I'm telling the truth, gents pass on gfe in many cases &perhaps take only f/s or go somewhere down the road for the gfe because something about the lady does not physically appeal to them. I am not talking about a mole on her butt ...something ....bigger that they may not wish to overcome to enjoy themselves ...you know exactly the kinds of things I mean.

If you want to argue the point that "SP's get tipped for their time and gents give them the tip so they should do what is expected on a menu no matter who the gent is, think ...That simply is not reasonable, please read on.

I believe SP's have an obligation to share a session with every client who requests a session (barring previous poor behavior) I do not believe there should be an obligation on any SP to provide equal services to every single client. Reality rings when your "GFE booked appt" arrives and he is 120 years old, very old stinky clothes that have not been washed in eons, one tooth, it's brown, rotted and smelly, no lips, no ability to really move so he hasn't washed properly in years and thus smells like a very dirty diaper ...painting the worst of the worst but it's simply the truth. If that was the female you could have gfe with ...would you? (close your eyes and see her, she is 120 (ok 80) years old, wrinkled and hunched, moving slowly as she shuffles to greet you in her knit slippers, one black rotted tooth, horrible breath, shriveled up lips, smells like a dirty diaper... I know you can see her in your mind, so tell me do you want to dfk and daty her?)

I don't state more than light gfe as a 'menu item' as it is unfair to some clients who come in only to receive a below par session if they have tipped for GFE. Translation~all of my sessions are very honest and I enjoy them from beginning to end. My sessions are based on mutual chemistry which happens differently between every sp and every client. I decided 2 years ago to NOT advertise gfe, nor would i ask for a tip over f/s. because I know i can not provide it exceptionally and unconditionally 100% of the time. If you can't do something right …) Result-No one expects what I may not be able to truly feel good about giving. The clients I do share gfe with, it is because I am enjoying myself and feel it is unnecessary to ask for a higher tip, although when able to, most clients will tip higher anyhow. Possibly my reviews don't go on about what was received in session more as a 'kissing and not telling' thing because I do not ask for the +tip as it is not something i feel an SP should be obligated to provide to any client if she is not comfortable doing so. My clients are aware that I am not doing this in an effort to 'undercut' any other lady (if I was I would certainly have advertised this long ago) I don't 'act' to win my clients return visits. I am able to maintain a regular client base as a result of my customer service standards regardless of the many levels of service my clients expect, enjoy and receive. No, I can not please all of the people all of the time but I do make every effort to try when given the chance.

Rather than stating i offer gfe and having clients offended by poor acting skills or refusal of service I just keep things on the downlow and cross my fingers that everyone leaves having had as pleasant a session as I can give being genuine, being me.

Hamburgers are available on every menu on every corner, no two taste the same. The 'menu' that has been laid out in this industry, in my opinion is a rather bad idea given that no 2 burgers will ever taste alike when eaten by 2 different people. Does that make any sense? I like Harveys for their personal choice of toppings but I find their beef fails to meet my personal expectations. A piece of meat can add toppings to try to impress (like acting a gfe role) but it is the substance that really counts ...isn't it?

As usual, walking to the beat of my own drummer in a hopefully polite and pleasant manner, not trying to offend, rather attempting to share insight, that is all I am trying to do.

...sticking my neck out on a chopping block? Usually, so I'm kinda used to it. To me it seems so clear but I am only one person with only one opinion and am interested in how others feel about this topic.

With a smile and a bunny hug.
JessicaPrabbit
...continuing to put the energizer bunny to shame ...thump thump thump thump
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Bobo The Rabbit

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GFE = BBBJ, DFk/LFK, DATY
sGFE = CBJ DFK/LFK , DATY
FS = CBJ, intercourse, HJ
PSE items = CIM, swallow, COF. Greek (some times)
Advertise to those definitions and stop beating a dead horse.
There is no interpretation.
If you can't offer the same services to the best looking clients and the worst looking clients, simply don't advertise them, there are way too many great girls for any guy to be bothered.

It is what it is.

The quality of a session is what reviews are for. One can have a better time with a girl doing FS who is great vs a lousy SP doing GFE. However there are too many great SPs doing GFE for me to bother seeing a great SP who does FS.

When you charge 250 it can be fs+ anything and guys will be happy.
When you charge 300 it can be sGFE+ anything and guys will be happy.
The only problem is when girls over charge or fail to provide, otherwise no guy has ever posted a negative review over not getting GFE extras at a FS price point.
 

JessicaPrabbit

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Yes Bobo I completely agree. The 250 tip (240) is sufficient in almost every case in my opinion and I explain to clients clearly that their sessions will be unique, fun and full of treats with no extra tip required. I have been getting a lot of pm's inquiring about the lack of certain menu items within my reviews ...thought I'd clear up any fuzzy areas and as I said 'come out of the closet' in full glory :)
Thanks BoBo and thanks Sperminator. The two of you are highly knowledgeable and I appreciate the feedback very much.

Jessica P Rabbit ...thump thump thump thump
 

Extreme April

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I may be sticking my neck out there from SP's. I dont believe that If you advertise GFE then you have the right to choose who you offer it to and who you dont.
If this is something you offer to a select cliental, then you can tell them that in person. We are offering a service. There are times in every service job, where you have to deal with customers or clients, that are a little more difficult then others. If you dont like a client because of a past rough session or something to that effect, then by all means refuse to see him the second time. But dont refuse service that you advertise, if your not going to offer it to everyone. All based on looks, smell etc. If the client smells....hold your breath. Dont make them feel lousy or disgusting. Maybe offer to go into the shower with them and wash them, if its too much for you. Offer them a candy, if their breath smells. There are ways of working around these things without making the client feel bad. If you cant handle his missing and rotten teeth, the shut your eyes and use your imagination. But if you advertise GFE, then it should be offered to everyone.
The same thing goes for having a bad day. Sorry, but dont bring your troubles to work........dont let it affect your job. We are "pros" and therefore should act the part.
There is no excuse for poor service because the girl was having an "off" or "bad" day. We cant always be healthy and happy, but you cant use it as an excuse for a bad session.
Just my two cents worth.
Dont bash me too much. But this is what I live by. :)

love and laughs
April
 

edmontonsubbie

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I think it's pretty cool that y'all would even put this stuff out there. It is thoughtful, inciteful, and an interesting read. We are all people, we all have our little dreams, out little schemes, and our own idea of what's fun. 99.9% of us are pretty good people....I won't discount the 0.1% pyschopathic segment....frightening stuff. I have encounted them a time or two....brrrrrr.

Well done to all of you for the thoughtful replies....and certainly to the original poster for the laying down of the thought train track. Once I get done making airplanes out of my resumes, saying the wrong things to your friends, I will work on pushing my missing teeth back into place. I am fairly confident they will stick in place this time.

Thank you gawd...or whoever/whatever you are...for spring. My favourite season.

kindest,

eddie.
 

HB40

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...thought I'd clear up any fuzzy areas and as I said 'come out of the closet' in full glory :)

Jessica P Rabbit ...thump thump thump thump
As far as I'm concerned you girls can do whatever you want with GFE and restrictions, I've always believed you should have control and limits. That way there is still an element of thrill to the chase and conquer for me despite the monetary factor, it's my job to seduce and charm and I like a sense of accomplishment. :)

As for the thump thump thumping, I think that might be trademarked already, it's a little Fuzzy. ;) :cool:
 

Kittie

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I consider (as do most popular sp's) gfe to be fs cbj daty and lfk/dfk. Not bbbj.

XXXKittie~
 

JessicaPrabbit

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I am thrilled at the positive replies this is exactly what I was hoping for.
hmmmmm ...so the thump thump thump is taken HB40? It's me challenging the energizer bunny. He thumps with his drum and I thump with my ....?
Jessica P. Rabbit
 

edmontonsubbie

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I've always believed you should have control and limits.
if we ever put this together, you will by MY bitch boyfriend.....whatsername can just watch.

And that is sGFE as noted above, if one is to put a label on it. Jessica's sessions are sFGE, safe, friendly (really friendly) girl experience (If I had to give it an acronym).
well, you didn't "have to" give it an acronym....but you did. And it's a pretty good one. Some of the best unplayed pianos have the loveliest sound. And some don't. It's nice to be able to trust the sGFE brand.

i am looking forward to tomorrow....I have no idea why....I just am.

edward.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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Kittie you cant consider CBJ as GFE, its sGFE, which is why sGFE exists, so girls who don't do BBBJ can let guys know they are offering more than FS but less than GFE.
It would be like me owning a gas station and calling my mid grade gas (which is rated 89) premium even though real premium is 91+, that simply wont fly.
 

Kittie

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Kittie you cant consider CBJ as GFE, its sGFE, which is why sGFE exists, so girls who don't do BBBJ can let guys know they are offering more than FS but less than GFE.
It would be like me owning a gas station and calling my mid grade gas (which is rated 89) premium even though real premium is 91+, that simply wont fly.
Actually I can consider it whatever I want :p I don't offer it so I could't care too much. Just letting you know what MANY sp's consider it to consist of. safe gfe these days to many sp's is protected daty as well as cbj.

Just as I say its smartest to call a studio to double check if a girl is in, I say ask the sp herself that you plan on seeing. Everybody has their own opinion these days. Not to mention people's opinions of "safe" vary

XXXKittie~
 
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edmontonsubbie

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my opinion of safe is ensuring that I look both directions before stepping out onto the street.
 

JessicaPrabbit

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Hey Kittie and Extreme April :) I am glad you took the time to reply, your input in my mind is worth a million bux and hugs to you both. Edmontonsubbie ... Am I 'whatsername'? or did you mean somebunny else? And now my curiosity is peaked as to why you are looking forward to tomorrow. Is it something I might want to watch? Because I happen to have the day off and am all about a bit of voyeurism now and again ;)

***And guys I gotta say I am truly impressed with your responses ...This is the type of response I absolutely knew would come from you ...honest and open, caring and respectful.

I don't think nearly enough credit goes to clients overall. Clients who visit the ladies I know are FAR AND ABOVE AVERAGE BEING EXCEPTIONALLY RESPECTFUL PEOPLE who over and over impress me with the amount of consideration and respect brought into a studio with them. In 2 years I have had 3 negative experiences ...that is a remarkable average. Having worked other jobs I know full well the challenges that exist in the 'real world' working for a boss you've never met, a manager who seemingly hates you, working with customers, clients and coworkers who think they have the right to crap all over you if you make a simple error with anything. The 3 negative experiences I have had may have have been 3 a day in most retail, food, customer service positions ...
Why am I talking about this ...? I need to say it to all the clients because it has been on my mind for 2 years and since this thread has churned such respectful replies I want to say it now.

So for the record: Thanks to all clients, mine or others, for continuing to share a high level of respect with the 'working girls'. We all (clients and ladies) seem to be of a slightly higher moral standard than those who might judge us. It's so ironic.

If only the nay-sayers knew how much the girls take care of one another, support and truly bond, willing to do anything for each other ...If only they knew that no licensed lady has a criminal record of anykind ...that is huge don't you think? Any business you attend is likely to have a person or two with a criminal background, but not here, as much as there are people who would love to think this is a 'criminal world' you and I can all sleep well at night knowing that the clients and the ladies, in my humble opinion, offer one another a safe, friendly, relaxed and fun place to be. So, not only to the clients, but to all the ladies in the industry I want to say on the record that my experiences since beginning two years ago at the age of 41 have improved my quality of life and it is wonderful. Thank you.

Sincerely
Jessica P. Rabbit
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edmontonsubbie

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Hey Kittie and Extreme April :) I am glad you took the time to reply, your input in my mind is worth a million bux and hugs to you both. Edmontonsubbie ... Am I 'whatsername'? or did you mean somebunny else? And now my curiosity is peaked as to why you are looking forward to tomorrow. Is it something I might want to watch? Because I happen to have the day off and am all about a bit of voyeurism now and again ;)]
I will say that I have considerable respect for both Kittie and Extreme April....without having ever met them. I fear that I am one of the "wannabe's" that haunt this board. I have met some amazing people and I hope to meet more...but I am guarded with my funds. I am still attempting to replace my bicycle with a cool new summer Trek ride so that I can declare my existing bike a "winter beater" and my new ride a "summer fling".

I mentioned that I will greet tomorrow with a smile simply because....what is the other option? May as well be smiling when you get your lazy ass out of that comfy bed. It's a cool deal this thing called life.

kindest,

eddie.

noooo....you are NOT whatsername....hb40 might be able to answer that....but i doubt he will. It was said in jest...hb knows some pretty cool people.
 

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Bobo your right, Kittie your wrong. Call a spade a spade. It's no big deal if you don't do gfe, just don't
advertise gfe when your not able to comply.
GFE means girlfriend experience. Every girlfriend I ever had did dfk, bbbj, plus a lot more.
COLOR="blue"]I am going to make a comment that you won't like. You didn't PAY your girlfried for that type of service. SP's are pro's that have to put their personal health and welfare before thier paycheck to ensure that all clients are safe when they leave and that we go home HEALTHY.

I am new to the business, however I have been informed by many SP's that there are different levels of GFE. GFE basically boils down to more intimacy and more personal engagement on an emotional, mental and spiritual level (after all...most pooners call for God when I'm riding them PROTECTED).

I may make enemies saying this...but as a new SP I believe in what Jessica Rabbit said....don't advertise it....simply offer it to in a private and sublte way to certain clients but be sure to lay down the boundries so there is no confusion and no one is offended.

I don't engage in unsafe sex practices, however I have certain clients that may receive more personal attention.....that doesn't mean I offer DATY, BBJ or other unsafe practices, it just means that I have a connection with those clients. I offered GFE when I first started....after a few days I took it off my description because it had become clear that MY idea of GFE and clients idea of GFE was quite different.

I no longer offer/advertise GFE as I have found that it begets confusion and can cause personal distress to both service provider and client. I prefer to have a rapport with my clients where we can discuss desires openly and come to an amicable agreement and what works best for us both.

Cheers,

Miss Maryn
 

Kittie

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Bobo your right, Kittie your wrong. Call a spade a spade. It's no big deal if you don't do gfe, just don't
advertise gfe when your not able to comply.
GFE means girlfriend experience. Every girlfriend I ever had did dfk, bbbj, plus a lot more.
how can I be wrong when I am telling you what many working girls consider gfe? And I never once said I offer it. Too many opinions and confusion. I prefer to be straight up about what I will and won't do. Saves time and money for both pooners and sp's.

Anyhow enough of a thread about services I dont offer. Toodles :) And happy pooning!

XXXKittie~
 

Bad Santa

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Majority Rules for GFE??

According to a recent PERB poll in the "Lounge", which I may have had something to do with:rolleyes:,the current numbers say that 63% of perbites believe BBBJ's are part of a standard "GFE" session.

Should we have "Majority Rules" for a standard GFE??:confused:

It's a buyer's market, so some sellers will always sell it and an awful lot of buyers want it.
 

JessicaPrabbit

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For Kittie: The opinions which equate confusion for you are the reason for the thread ....to discuss the many different 'opinions' on a topic that is huge to our industry and remains to be an ongoing source of disagreement. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, this is simply a way to learn what others are thinking about when they think "gfe". As I said originally, I'm not saying what it is, I don't imagine it was ever cut in stone ...and there likely is no wrong or right. I'm just an open minded person hoping to better understand services that I myself don't offer, but do need to have a grasp on the 'opinions' of others so when questioned I can be tactful with my replies ...I would not want to go off sounding like I knew more than anyone so I'm simply here to learn. I think all who have replied here have been very straight up, so thanks everyone.
Bunny Hugs Jessica
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Bobo The Rabbit

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These are definitions of service packages, its not about what you consider/feel/think to be GFE, its about what it is.

Some of us have been here for almost 10 years building a reputable community with industry standards, you either comply to them or you don't, and if you don't, you'll obviously get bad reviews because what "you feel and what other girls feel" is GFE, is not important, this is about the consumers definition, and it is not open to interpretation.
 
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