Election 2015

Who do you plan to vote for?

  • Harper

    Votes: 42 24.6%
  • Trudeau

    Votes: 64 37.4%
  • Mulcair

    Votes: 48 28.1%
  • May

    Votes: 11 6.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 3.5%

  • Total voters
    171

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
Trudeau
stands there thinking, and thinking, and finally says, "Honestly, my
mind is a total blank...there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can't
think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I
don't have a clue."

Cashier:
"Will that be large or small bills, Mr. Trudeau?"

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 

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ans the USA has gone into debt by more than 6 Trillion since Obama took office....yeah thats real good "change"

FTH
Both Canada and the U.S have always had debt and will continue with an escalating national debt regardless who's in power lol. Including during Harper years lol. Once you clink onto the 2nd link, scroll down and you can adjust the year(s).

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...ved=0CCAQ9QEwAGoVChMI4q-t7L-0yAIV0TCICh1NyQq2

http://www.debtclock.ca/

As for Alberta, any economy that rely's on commodities will always be subject to dramatic cyclical fluctuations. That is the nature of commodities. Always has been.
 

storm rider

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Justin Trudeau walks into a Royal Bank to cash a cheque. As he approaches the
cashier he says, "Bonjour,
Madame, could you please cash this cheque for
me?"
Cashier: "It would be my pleasure sir. Could you
please show me your
ID?"

Trudeau: "Truthfully, I did not bring my ID with me as I
didn't think there was any need to. I am Justin Trudeau, the leader of
the Liberal Party of Canada!"
Cashier: "Yes sir, I know who you are, but with all
the regulations and monitoring of the banks because of impostors and
forgers and requirements of the CIDC legislation, etc., I must insist on
seeing ID."

Trudeau: “Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they
will tell you. Everybody knows who I am."
Cashier:
"I am sorry, Mr. Trudeau, but these are the bank rules and I must follow
them."

Trudeau: "Mon dieu. I am urging you, please, to cash this
cheque."

Cashier:
"Look Mr. Trudeau, here is an example of what we can
do.

One
day, Tiger Woods came into the bank without ID. To prove he was Tiger
Woods he pulled out his putter and made a beautiful shot across the bank
into a cup. With that shot we knew him to be Tiger Woods and cashed his
cheque.

Another
time, Andre Agassi came in without ID. He pulled out his tennis racket
and made a fabulous shot whereas the tennis ball landed in my cup. With
that shot we cashed his cheque.


So,
Mr. Trudeau, what can you do to prove that it is you, and only
you?"

Trudeau
stands there thinking, and thinking, and finally says, "Honestly, my
mind is a total blank...there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can't
think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I
don't have a clue."

Cashier:
"Will that be large or small bills, Mr. Trudeau?"
fuckin A Sir....good joke and it hit the nail on the head.If we ever meet the first beer is on me and you are welcome to shag my step sister anytime you like.

FTH
 

rick hunter

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I cannot say I would feel like a "criminal" under the Conservatives.Under both Angry Tom and Justine I may become a "criminal" after a new gun registry is brought in under either of them.Last gun registry was useless and it punished hunters/farmers.It was supposed to cost 2 MILLION but it cost 2 BILLION and it did nothing to deter gun crime as honest firearm owners got punished and not "criminals"

As for "career politician" that is EXACTLY what Commie Tom is.....for 35 years actually.As for him being in anyway fiscally responsible he has personally refinanced his OWN home 11 times.I dont mean he has re-upped for a mortgage 11 times I mean that he has taken EQUITY out of his home 11 times....what kind of idiot does that?....work with a mortgage calculator with any amount be it 200 grand or 800 grand with a set mortgage rate over 5 years fixed and running the numbers with different ammortisations...be it 10/15/20/25 years of ammortisement....crunch the numbers and if you are dumb enough to actually pay off a mortgage of $500,000 over 25 years that mortgage costs you more than $1,000,000.

As for "change"....the last thing Canada needs is a "change" like we got in Alberta though that was a protest vote gone wrong....the day after the Provincial Election Albertans gave themselves a double face palm and collectively said "what the fuck did I do!!!!!!"That kind of collective fuckup would be disasterous for Canada.With Angry Tom in charge of things we would have gross Corporate tax hikes as well as persoanl tax hikes as well as a carbon tax and all so that the NDP could tax and spend MORE on social programs whilst at the same time killing investment in Canada.....except of course for the unionized jobs in Ontairio in the automotive sector.

Down in the USA they got "change" and just look at the USA.Obama has never passed a budget as it would get rejected by Congress ans the USA has gone into debt by more than 6 Trillion since Obama took office....yeah thats real good "change"

FTH


Obama can't pass a budget because your buddies in the USA (Republicans) refused to compromise. Most of the 6 Trillion debt was because of the Great Recession which was caused by lax government oversight and regulations on the banks (Bush), which I'm sure you've would have been in favor of since we all know industries can monitor and police themselves right? :rolleyes: The US deficit this year is $435 billion which is the smallest in 7 years. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eficit-higher-than-previous-estimate-cbo-says

There was a surprising $1.9 billion surplus last year even though it was projected to be a deficit. If the Conservatives are that great at running the economy and creating jobs why are they not talking about that in their ads? Instead the ads are all focused on attacking Justin and Tom.
 

summerbreeze

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actually the the bank regulator relaxation came in Clinton's era,

not that it matters who

I don't think the conservatives have done a bad job on the economic front, it is just the arrogance of Mackay and Harper's need to be dictatorial and controlling be it required in his party or not which has most people upset

internationally, Canada has managed its economic affairs extremely well
 

badbadboy

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Down in the USA they got "change" and just look at the USA.Obama has never passed a budget as it would get rejected by Congress ans the USA has gone into debt by more than 6 Trillion since Obama took office....yeah thats real good "change"
Since Sept 11, 2001 the Americans have engaged in a war in Afghanistan and then inexplicably commenced a war in Iraq. You may recall it was George W Bush who sanctioned the two wars. Obama inherited the two wars plus had to deal with a melt down on Wall Street at the beginning of his presidency. But being the Conservative you are, it's very easy to ignore the whole history and just dump the entire problem upon Obama. :rolleyes:

The two wars cost $1 Billion Dollars per day at the height of the conflicts.

The Wall Street meltdown actually started back in the Ronald Reagan era who commenced deregulation of Wall Street to make things easier for banks and brokerage houses to skirt the rules and go rogue with hedge fund investments, mortgages and the like. The following presidencies continued the process with Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and then Obama.

So if you have a real sense of history, it would be best if you commented upon the whole story instead of using your minuscule memory of the facts. I have the sneaking suspicion you get all your facts from Fox Network anyways. Many Republicans do because Fox panders to the lowest common denominator and you appear to fit their demographic quite nicely.
 

rick hunter

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actually the the bank regulator relaxation came in Clinton's era,

not that it matters who

I don't think the conservatives have done a bad job on the economic front, it is just the arrogance of Mackay and Harper's need to be dictatorial and controlling be it required in his party or not which has most people upset

internationally, Canada has managed its economic affairs extremely well

I stand corrected. If the Conservatives were proud of their record, they would be touting that instead of talking about banning federal servants from wearing the niqab. Only 1.8% of are Muslim women and fewer still would be wearing a niqab.

Canada has some serious issues like a aging population, aging infrastructure and a stagnant economy. Instead of talking about issues that matters to all Canadians, we're talking about why one person shouldn't be a Canadian citizen or banning the niqab for federal servants.
 

hornygandalf

Active member
With Angry Tom in charge of things we would have gross Corporate tax hikes as well as persoanl tax hikes as well as a carbon tax and all so that the NDP could tax and spend MORE on social programs whilst at the same time killing investment in Canada.....except of course for the unionized jobs in Ontairio in the automotive sector.
Companies make investment decisions based on demand for their products, not on what the current tax rate is. An increase in tax rate does not automatically kill investment. Go back to the 90s to see higher tax rates and higher levels of investment. If the higher tax rates are resulting in redistribution in income to those who are going to spend it rather than sock it away in offshore accounts, then you will see higher demand. And that higher demand will provide a reason for companies to increase investment to meet that demand.

A parallel can be seen in Seattle when they raised the minimum wage. Huge outcry initially about how it would lead to a loss of low-paying jobs. Didn't happen, but what did happen was Seattle had the fastest formation of new businesses in the US. Why, 'cause people at the lower end of the economic scale had more money to spend, so they did, boosting the local economy.

Lower taxes = economic growth has been shown to be total hogwash or at least partial hogwash a good portion of the time. That is one of the reasons for the stagnant economic growth in recent years. On occasion lowering taxes certainly can help economic growth... if you are paying 65% taxes and they reduce down to 50 or 40%. But, at these levels it makes no impact.

If you want some light bedtime reading, take a look at Thomas Pinketty's Capital. And yes, there was a prominent political economist/journalist from the 19th century who also published a work with a similar title... though that was multi-volume.
 
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Tugela

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I cannot say I would feel like a "criminal" under the Conservatives.Under both Angry Tom and Justine I may become a "criminal" after a new gun registry is brought in under either of them.Last gun registry was useless and it punished hunters/farmers.It was supposed to cost 2 MILLION but it cost 2 BILLION and it did nothing to deter gun crime as honest firearm owners got punished and not "criminals"

As for "career politician" that is EXACTLY what Commie Tom is.....for 35 years actually.As for him being in anyway fiscally responsible he has personally refinanced his OWN home 11 times.I dont mean he has re-upped for a mortgage 11 times I mean that he has taken EQUITY out of his home 11 times....what kind of idiot does that?....work with a mortgage calculator with any amount be it 200 grand or 800 grand with a set mortgage rate over 5 years fixed and running the numbers with different ammortisations...be it 10/15/20/25 years of ammortisement....crunch the numbers and if you are dumb enough to actually pay off a mortgage of $500,000 over 25 years that mortgage costs you more than $1,000,000.

As for "change"....the last thing Canada needs is a "change" like we got in Alberta though that was a protest vote gone wrong....the day after the Provincial Election Albertans gave themselves a double face palm and collectively said "what the fuck did I do!!!!!!"That kind of collective fuckup would be disasterous for Canada.With Angry Tom in charge of things we would have gross Corporate tax hikes as well as persoanl tax hikes as well as a carbon tax and all so that the NDP could tax and spend MORE on social programs whilst at the same time killing investment in Canada.....except of course for the unionized jobs in Ontairio in the automotive sector.

Down in the USA they got "change" and just look at the USA.Obama has never passed a budget as it would get rejected by Congress ans the USA has gone into debt by more than 6 Trillion since Obama took office....yeah thats real good "change"

FTH
The US debt grew under Obama not because of his actions (he didn't increase spending), but because of the costs of the wars he inherited from Bush (who failed to convince congress to FUND those wars with increased taxes), and the cost of the financial collapse he inherited from Bush. It was the conservatives under Bush who ran the US into the rat hole, not Obama. Before Bush, the democrats had the presidency, and guess what: they ran the government with a surplus.

The annual deficit has been steadily shrinking under Obama as he slowly fixed the catastrophic and irresponsible conservative economic policies of the Republicans.

http://politix.topix.com/story/7027-heres-the-deficit-under-clinton-bush-and-obama

So get your facts right. It is the conservatives who screw the economy up, in spite of all their rhetoric.
 

marsvolta

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I cannot say I would feel like a "criminal" under the Conservatives
FTH
so its just about "feeling" like a criminal for you? news flash... you ARE a criminal if you pay for sex! you haven't been asked to register a gun even though i suspect you don't feel like a criminal for registering your car, your house title and your right to vote.
 

Cock Throppled

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Oct 1, 2003
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Upstairs
I cannot say I would feel like a "criminal" under the Conservatives.Under both Angry Tom and Justine I may become a "criminal" after a new gun registry is brought in under either of them.Last gun registry was useless and it punished hunters/farmers.It was supposed to cost 2 MILLION but it cost 2 BILLION and it did nothing to deter gun crime as honest firearm owners got punished and not "criminals"

As for "career politician" that is EXACTLY what Commie Tom is.....for 35 years actually.As for him being in anyway fiscally responsible he has personally refinanced his OWN home 11 times.I dont mean he has re-upped for a mortgage 11 times I mean that he has taken EQUITY out of his home 11 times....what kind of idiot does that?....work with a mortgage calculator with any amount be it 200 grand or 800 grand with a set mortgage rate over 5 years fixed and running the numbers with different ammortisations...be it 10/15/20/25 years of ammortisement....crunch the numbers and if you are dumb enough to actually pay off a mortgage of $500,000 over 25 years that mortgage costs you more than $1,000,000.

As for "change"....the last thing Canada needs is a "change" like we got in Alberta though that was a protest vote gone wrong....the day after the Provincial Election Albertans gave themselves a double face palm and collectively said "what the fuck did I do!!!!!!"That kind of collective fuckup would be disasterous for Canada.With Angry Tom in charge of things we would have gross Corporate tax hikes as well as persoanl tax hikes as well as a carbon tax and all so that the NDP could tax and spend MORE on social programs whilst at the same time killing investment in Canada.....except of course for the unionized jobs in Ontairio in the automotive sector.

Down in the USA they got "change" and just look at the USA.Obama has never passed a budget as it would get rejected by Congress ans the USA has gone into debt by more than 6 Trillion since Obama took office....yeah thats real good "change"

FTH
Once again displaying your abject ignorance.

You can "feel" any the fuck way you want under the Cons, but you "are" a criminal under their legislation.

Good luck if you're arrested and your argument is you don't FEEL like being charged that day.

Canada was insulated during the downturn by strict bankng laws. Harper likes to take credit for Canada coming out of the recession stronger than many countries, but he was touting relaxing, or even eliminating those regulations that saved his bacon. He was lucky the collapse happened before he had a chance to tinker.

Alberta's government was a shambles and deserved to get traampled. I know many Albertans and none of them gave a face palm. Your dogmatic approach and fear of anything different completely blinds you to even give the new government a chance.

The US has been hamstrung by Tea Bagger politicians in the House that act just like you - they'd rather continue to ruin things because hating the other side is their main priority.
 

hornygandalf

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so its just about "feeling" like a criminal for you? news flash... you ARE a criminal if you pay for sex! you haven't been asked to register a gun even though i suspect you don't feel like a criminal for registering your car, your house title and your right to vote.
I'm not a criminal. I pay for the time and the pleasure of the company of the lady. And if sex happens, well, that something that sometimes happens between horny adults. But, the payment was for the time together, not specific activities that might have happened during that time :)
 

wilde

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fuckin A Sir....good joke and it hit the nail on the head.If we ever meet the first beer is on me and you are welcome to shag my step sister anytime you like.

FTH
so its just about "feeling" like a criminal for you? news flash... you ARE a criminal if you pay for sex! you haven't been asked to register a gun even though i suspect you don't feel like a criminal for registering your car, your house title and your right to vote.
Cherry picking has always been his strong suit.

Oh and hankmoody, that joke is about as funny as it was long and clumsy. I must have taken a couple of naps before I can finish reading it. Please keep your day job:p
 

morementum

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i find it fascinating that the criminals on this board, and yes if you have paid for sex since the introduction of the new federal laws then you ARE a criminal, have no problem with voting for the party that made them criminals! are you taking one for the team?

just wait for your name to come up on the little computer when you are trying to cross a border!
 

sdw

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Keeping voting for Stephie Hitler and you won't have the opportunity to vote in a few years.
You know that's overblown. When Hitler got control, there were no further election. Harper got majority government, and yet, here we are having an election where he possibly will be defeated. If Harper manages to squeak in to government, that's the type of overblown garbage that offsets his own overblown statements. It becomes easy for the person that doesn't really follow politics to say "they all do it".

People tend to forget that the NAZI name is the English acronym for the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The NAZI party had very close links to Trotsky which is why Stalin hated the NAZIS. People that don't know history should actually read Mien Kampf and look at what Hitler actually thought. The book was a best seller worldwide and many prominent politicians of the left persuasion agreed with him. That's why they made an effort after the war to muddy the history. We still have some around, thankfully they are dying off and we are getting a new set of socialists that don't believe that "re-education" and "culling the imperfect" is the path to making the world as they think it should be.
 

sdw

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Looks like the voters aren't apathetic

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/advanced-poll-numbers-1.3266556

Advance poll turnout up from last election, Elections Canada says
850,000 Canadians voted on 1st day of advance polls, beating 2011 and 2008 numbers

The Canadian Press Posted: Oct 10, 2015 8:47 PM ET Last Updated: Oct 10, 2015 9:53 PM ET

The opening day of advance polls brought out a big increase in the number of voters casting ballots ahead of the Oct. 19 election.

Elections Canada says it estimates some 850,000 people voted on Friday, the first day of advance polls.

The agency says that is a 26 per cent increase over the first day of advance polls in the 2011 election and a 90 per cent increase over the first day of advance polls in 2008.

There were long line-ups reported on Friday at polling sections.

There were concerns that the Conservative government's changes to election laws to tighten identification requirements could create snags for certain Canadians, but Elections Canada said it has been trying to ensure everyone who wants to vote would get a chance to do so.

Advance polls are open throughout the Thanksgiving weekend.
This weekend, why not go out and vote for the Turkey of your choice? The polls may be very busy on October 19th.
 
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