Do we have equal voice ...

[Dr_X_man]

I wonder ... I was inspired by a member who wrote a respectful but not favorable review. The outcome would be:

• some guys will come out of the woods saying they had a bad experience as well but unfotunately they did not write about it. Then other cornies will follow the trend
• some guys will come bashing the reviewer, discrediting him almost calling him names maybe indirectly. Then other cornies will follow the trend.
• ..
• other possible outcomes

My problem is those pussies who always stick for their pussies whether they are right or wrong. My problem is those who claim to be men while they like to be screwed. No judgement if you are a submissive man that should stay in bed. Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshiper should let people voice their opinions. If you do not wish to be a man that is fine but you can not have it both ways. It is not about gender as much as it is about personality. However, the outcome is always in favor of women "SP's" whether they are right or wrong. Whether they are guilty or not! and when a girl or SP voices her opinion against feminists she would be isolated. How come she did not stick to her fellow SP's evenif that SP is guilty!
Which begs the question "Do we all have equal voice?"

 

[Gomez Adams]

My problem is those who claim to be men while they like to be screwed. If you do not wish to be a man that is fine but you can not have it both ways. It is not about gender as much as it is about personality. However, the outcome is always in favor of women "SP's" whether they are right or wrong.

Which pegs the question "Do we all have equal voice?"

I'm not sure what you are trying to say, I never am.....but if you want to get pegged just come out and say it, and yes in that situation I do believe the outcome is always in favor of the SP women. :thumb:

 

[Dr_X_man]

I'm not sure what you are trying to say, I never am.....but if you want to get pegged just come out and say it, and yes in that situation I do believe the outcome is always in favor of the SP women. :thumb:

Thanks fixed it. Based on your answer I believe you understand what I am trying to say. :thumb:
So does not she

(but if needed I will explain more.)

 

[Alix Turner]

Who's on first.

 

[jnewton]

Who's on first.

What's on second.

 

[Stella_Hardon]

I wonder ... I was inspired by a member who wrote a respectful but not favorable review. The outcome would be:

• some guys will come out of the woods saying they had a bad experience as well but unfotunately they did not write about it. Then other cornies will follow the trend
• some guys will come bashing the reviewer, discrediting him almost calling him names maybe indirectly. Then other cornies will follow the trend.
• ..
• other possible outcomes

My problem is those pussies who always stick for their pussies whether they are right or wrong. My problem is those who claim to be men while they like to be screwed. No judgement if you are a submissive man that should stay in bed. Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshiper should let people voice their opinions. If you do not wish to be a man that is fine but you can not have it both ways. It is not about gender as much as it is about personality. However, the outcome is always in favor of women "SP's" whether they are right or wrong. Whether they are guilty or not! and when a girl or SP voices her opinion against feminists she would be isolated. How come she did not stick to her fellow SP's evenif that SP is guilty!
Which begs the question "Do we all have equal voice?"

Just looking at the evidence on this particular thread you can see that a majority of the active posters aren't serious.

One has to doubt the seriousness of the author by the use of his perjorative name calling ... Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshipper
(Dr_X_man should be looking in the mirror when he says "discrediting him almost calling him names maybe indirectly. )

Note that an SP has to be a paid advertiser or their posts will be selectively deleted by the administrator

Note also that a negative review costs the Perbert nothing, but may have significant economic effect for the SP.

Note also that an SP has to be " diplomatic" to avoid alienating potential customers.

I'll stop here Dr_X_man ... I'd like to see the posting that inspired you to start this thread
Let us judge just how respectful but not favorable.

A better question you might ask is : Is my telling the SP that I'm a Perbert going to be met with a postiive reaction ?

 

[Dr_X_man]

Just looking at the evidence on this particular thread you can see that a majority of the active posters aren't serious.

One has to doubt the seriousness of the author by the use of his perjorative name calling ... Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshipper
(Dr_X_man should be looking in the mirror when he says "discrediting him almost calling him names maybe indirectly. )

What does this even mean!!?!!
I should explain that this was not a personal experience. I do mix humor with seriousness! (I do not like to hurt others)
I am calling them the appropriate names.
corny=can not form their own opinion and something presented as fresh or original, but which is actually lame
Lap dog=A person who is subservient, someone who obediently follows without regard for their own interests or principles.

Note that an SP has to be a paid advertiser or their posts will be selectively deleted by the administrator

Note also that a negative review costs the Perbert nothing, but may have significant economic effect for the SP.

Note also that an SP has to be " diplomatic" to avoid alienating potential customers.

Have I seen SP's who reply without being an advertiser? YES
Negative review if it was written with resepct and objectivity will be a constructive criticism. I think an SP who stives to excel would appreciate it. Rather than this guy and others avoid her altogether. If she moves forward, learns from it and respectfully accepts it. I will be the first to go see her (if she has been on my radar). I gladly did it before.
Definitely, the SP has to be diplomatic. However, my problem is those who jump in and offer their opinion disrespectfully and bash the reviewer.

I'll stop here Dr_X_man ... I'd like to see the posting that inspired you to start this thread
Let us judge just how respectful but not favorable.

A better question you might ask is : Is my telling the SP that I'm a Perbert going to be met with a postiive reaction ?

There are a lot of not favorable but respectful reviews. It is not easy to write them. Look at my post history.
I have a very interesting post by a SP that explains more;

That is bothered by the white knights jumping on newbies when posting their experiences and opinions? ( not the obvious shills)

Some of my favorite friends don't actually partake in the banter of the boards and I don't blame them!
I have had my share if white knights try and defend my chemistry with others (well on one neg post that was shut down) and I really don't feel it's right. Im sure id have more negative comments about me if it wernt for white knights. Of course us ladies don't please every gent out there! ..so what's wrong with them posting that fact?

I enjoy the constructive criticism... Happens in all business. And evens out well when handled with tact.

I've seen plenty of ladies conduct themselves as such and others dig their own graves... Let us ladies decide our own fate!


Senior members, please give everyone a voice... Because your isn't always gospel!

Xo end rant happy pooning!
Kerri

 

[Stella_Hardon]

What does this even mean!!?!!
I should explain that this was not a personal experience. I do mix humor with seriousness! (I do not like to hurt others)
I am calling them the appropriate names.
corny=can not form their own opinion and something presented as fresh or original, but which is actually lame
Lap dog=A person who is subservient, someone who obediently follows without regard for their own interests or principles.

The evidence is on the thread. If we start with your first post the vast majority of the posts following it are not serious.

If we look at Perb as a whole there are numerous issues reflecting a flippant attitude

eg. SP ask that you walk on by when you see them in public.
Look at all the posts where a Perbert says hello to the SP in front of friends and family.

eg. The concept of practicing safe sex.
There are numerous posts of Perberts looking for a more authentic GFE and BBBJ.



I used the word perjorative - words or grammatical forms that connote negativity and express contempt or distaste.

Just look at what you said.

" My problem is those pussies who always stick for their pussies whether they are right or wrong. My problem is those who claim to be men while they like to be screwed. No judgement if you are a submissive man that should stay in bed. Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshiper should let people voice their opinions. "



The idea of a negative review being constructive criticism if it was written with respect and objectivity is a dubious concept.

An SP who has an advertising presence on Perb is already at the top of her form.
I seriously doubt if a Perbert can provide her with a useful insight.
I would think it much more likely the Perbert pressuring the SP to offer discounts, extended time, or more risky behaviour
since there is an implied possibility that the Perbert will write a negative review.


You make a point of constructive criticism ... the question I have for you is why not just Private Message the SP ?


You have avoided disclosing the review that inspired you to start this thread.
Let the community evaluate which particular reviewer who got bashed.


And again I ask : Is my telling the SP that I'm a Perbert going to be met with a positive reaction ?

 

[Dr_X_man]

I sense PillowTalk!!
I do not know where all this come from but without a doubt you prove some points !
You have already detained, arrested, judged and excuted (casted the stone). Is there a point of anything?
You did the same before in all the topics you had.
CuteAngie (Public and Privacy) had a point and if you re-read the thread you will know. But you have already casted the stone.
Safety....DATY=BBBJ
I will go to my pillow and sleep to be continued...

 

[Stella_Hardon]

I sense PillowTalk!!
I do not know where all this come from but without a doubt you prove some points !
You have already detained, arrested, judged and excuted (casted the stone). Is there a point of anything?
You did the same before in all the topics you had.
CuteAngie (Public and Privacy) had a point and if you re-read the thread you will know. But you have already casted the stone.
Safety....DATY=BBBJ
I will go to my pillow and sleep to be continued...

Are Pillowtalk and CuteAngie commenting on this thread ?
All this is coming from a fellow Perbert and sad to say the evidence is ABUNDANT.
Go the Health Nurse Line and read a few threads.
Look at some of the posts by LAG ...

Of course I did the same before in all the topics .... it's called being consistent.

One would hope that eventually a Perbert would be reknown for advocating safe sex practices ...
and showing a bit of discretion when encountering a SP in a public place but the sad fact is that
the issue seems to be ongoing.

 

[Dr_X_man]

It is very disappointing. I have not directed any of the words to you as a person but you instead with your very first post did. My post has been general and I have never directed insults toward anyone. Yet again you twisted it and turned the tables against me. For what!?! for saying my opinion. I have not insulted you directly or indirectly (not yet LOL )
In all those threads that you participated in there are many commonalities:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?147325-Gentlemen-a-reminder....and-a-bit-of-a-vent
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?127975-Should-BBBJ-s-be-Included-in-a-Standard-GFE-Session
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?127547-TESTING-and-SAFE-SEX
As I said you have already played the role of the police, the perscutor, the judge and the executor. You, your highness do not even hear (won`t even say listen but just hear) others

Thanks but no thanks. I do not need someone like this to educate me this way and with this approach. I do not need to play the role of highly educated because I already have earned three post graduate degrees. All in scientific fields and YES I had a graduate course in bio...However, there is no end to learning.

Instead of writing any reviews on a review board. Let us Private Message the SP? What an idea!

To be continue (when I have the time if I feel and have the energy) ...

 

[Stella_Hardon]

It is very disappointing. I have not directed any of the words to you as a person but you instead with your very first post did. My post has been general and I have never directed insults toward anyone. Yet again you twisted it and turned the tables against me. For what!?! for saying my opinion. I have not insulted you directly or indirectly (not yet LOL )
In all those threads that you participated in there are many commonalities:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?147325-Gentlemen-a-reminder....and-a-bit-of-a-vent
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?127975-Should-BBBJ-s-be-Included-in-a-Standard-GFE-Session
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?127547-TESTING-and-SAFE-SEX
As I said you have already played the role of the police, the perscutor, the judge and the executor. You, your highness do not even hear (won`t even say listen but just hear) others

Thanks but no thanks. I do not need someone like this to educate me this way and with this approach. I do not need to play the role of highly educated because I already have earned three post graduate degrees. All in scientific fields and YES I had a graduate course in bio...However, there is no end to learning.

Instead of writing any reviews on a review board. Let us Private Message the SP? What an idea!

To be continue (when I have the time if I feel and have the energy) ...

Don`t play the role of victim. If you think about it your first post would have to be general it was directed as a question toward the PERB community.
It would naturally follow that if I were to reply to your post it would be directed at you. I doubt if I did any serious twisting.
If there was any insulting you may want to review your use of pejorative language. You seem to insist that it is only your personal opinion and as such has some sort of legitimacy.
Maybe you want to look up the meaning of the word pejorative

Again your pointing out the many commonalities is expected.
The issues crop up on a regular basis and I`m just being consistent.

Nice to see you have so many degrees hopefully they will assist you in addressing the questions posed.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Don't play the role of victim. If you think about it your first post would have to be general it was directed as a question toward the PERB community.

I do not need to play roles. You have already passed your judgement on me long ago. Yes my post is general. It is about a certain sector that exist in any community whether it is electronic or in life. I did not invent the words. These words existed in languages to describe those people. I doubt those words would have existed if these people did not exist.
I might unintentionally made mistakes (in general). In this particular discussion, I guess my mistake would be combining many topics. Another mistake would be when I write and reread before posting. My post makes perfect sense to me. I will be frank sometimes I re-read my own post after few months. I say to myself what the hell was I saying. I admit I have never been good in comprehension. I have never been good in expressing myself.

It would naturally follow that if I were to reply to your post it would be directed at you. I doubt if I did any serious twisting.
If there was any insulting you may want to review your use of pejorative language. You seem to insist that it is only your personal opinion and as such has some sort of legitimacy.

Nothing is wrong in replying. I appreciate any civilized discussion whether I agree or disagree. I do appreciate your replies. It is not just words I hold nothing against those who disagree with me. As I said many times if we all have the same opinions, views, taste... life will be very very boring. Sometimes playing the role of the opposite side enriches the discussion. Again nothing is wrong at all.
The wrong in these replies stem from directing these words to me. In your own words mirroring the image of people I resent to me!

One has to doubt the seriousness of the author by the use of his perjorative name calling ... Lap dogs, corny and pussyworshipper
(Dr_X_man should be looking in the mirror when he says "discrediting him almost calling him names maybe indirectly. )

Yes, I used these words to describe these certain people that has been existing. Call it a rant mixed with sarcism and humor. If someone reads my post and gets a laugh that is good. If someone reads deep between the lines and gets another point that is better.

If there was any insulting you may want to review your use of pejorative language.

Let me explain again this time with a question why do you feel you are one of these people?

Again your pointing out the many commonalities is expected.
The issues crop up on a regular basis and I'm just being consistent.

consistent in prejudging, not hearing others,...

 

[Dr_X_man]

That is bothered by the white knights jumping on newbies when posting their experiences and opinions? ( not the obvious shills)

Personally, I am very bothered.

Some of my favorite friends don't actually partake in the banter of the boards and I don't blame them!
I have had my share if white knights try and defend my chemistry with others (well on one neg post that was shut down) and I really don't feel it's right. Im sure id have more negative comments about me if it wernt for white knights. Of course us ladies don't please every gent out there! ..so what's wrong with them posting that fact?

I blame them a little. We were all newbies I am new to this forum however I am not a newbie. I have earned respect and great credibility in other US/International review boards... I did defend the weak and the newbies. Let's say got promoted all the way to supra dubra...Newbies are the new blood for review boards. Once a review board is dominated by those or plays favors with advertisers on the review sections. The review board becomes a joke. It collapses.
I had my down moments because of these. I intended on some occasions to quit posting. I offer and provide intel rather than gain. I have many TOFTT and have had good experiences with many badly reviewed SP's.

I have had my share if white knights try and defend my chemistry with others (well on one neg post that was shut down) and I really don't feel it's right. Im sure id have more negative comments about me if it wernt for white knights. Of course us ladies don't please every gent out there! ..so what's wrong with them posting that fact?

I would not call these white knights though. I will call them pussy worshippers and I cannot respect them. The excuse that was offered to me while defending newbie was these guys are submissive and enjoy being screwed. No judgement and to each his own but that should not be projected onto others. I had a recent discussion and to be frank if it were not for some real stoodup men...and it is not about gender but it is about fairness.

I enjoy the constructive criticism... Happens in all business. And evens out well when handled with tact.

I've seen plenty of ladies conduct themselves as such and others dig their own graves... Let us ladies decide our own fate!


Senior members, please give everyone a voice... Because your isn't always gospel!

Xo end rant happy pooning!
Kerri

Really well said, a review board is for people to post reviews good and bad. We all learn from both. A bad respectfull and objective review is constructive criticism. It is better than people avoiding and ignoring that SP without her knowing why? As I said before I am willing to see those badly reviewed SP's.

 

[jnewton]

An SP who has an advertising presence on Perb is already at the top of her form.
I seriously doubt if a Perbert can provide her with a useful insight.

What incredible arrogance, to think that there is nothing to be learned from others.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Anyway, let me break my opinion into levels of negativity:

• Type 1-There is a post that is disrespectful, negative and has nothing of value. An example would be the incident where some boys and girls including myself stepped in. The poster did not even stay for a session with any of the girls and wrote his post. His post was not respectful and did not add value. His post was bashing and in his own words "old, washed, beaten, ugly, undesirable, unhirable, uneducated....they should pay him instead". Thanks to Moderator-1 who removed the thread.
• -Type-2....
• Type-3-There is a post that is respectful, honest, negative and of value
  Examples range from bad experiences to total scams. A guy who saw a girl that does not even want to have fun up to a guy who got ripped off...the guy would say respectfully why the experience was bad while providing examples. She smelled bad (smoked). She was on the phone. She stood him up, wasted his time,...She was texting. She stopped him in the middle of fun as she does not wish to enjoy...or used her hands to stop you or ... or there was misrepresentation in her part of services or rates or pictures...her pictures were not a good representation....bait and switch...or scammer...
  

A negative but respectful opinion. There is no need for third party to step in. It is what is whether you believe it or not. But just do not attack the reviewer newbie or not.

These are some additional thoughts and my opinion

 

[sevenofnine]

my honest opinion
reveiws are a complete waste of time,
the only thing they really confirm is the sp is legit.
and maybe for the sp or other sp's that the reviewer is legit and maybe she can research him

other then that reveiws don't bother.

first to many white nights will protect an sp at all cost
even if its a polite review with minor criticism.

and for an sp its dollars and cents and she or most of them will do anything they can to have anything negative connected with them deleted

few sps i have come across will let a bad review stand or apologize to a client or whatever, for standing him up. or admit there wrong,
it just isn't going to happen

in all honesty i will not even bother entering into a discusson with an sp if something goes wrong. i will just take my losses lick my wounds and move on

there is no point don't waste your time.

its in all honesty the sps loss in my case any way
if it doesn't work out.
i spend alot of money on my regualar sp,
i am as regular as clock work
and im not at all demanding for the long sessions i pay for,
its ridiculously easy money all things considered, for the life of an sp.

so it sucks to be the sps that have pissed me off over the years.

but in all honesty there have been few sps that i have had a problem with, its rare,
i actually get along with them quite well, to be honest

its just if it doesn't work out don't waste your time is my point. move on.

 

[Stella_Hardon]

Quote Originally Posted by Stella_Hardon View Post
An SP who has an advertising presence on Perb is already at the top of her form.
I seriously doubt if a Perbert can provide her with a useful insight.

What incredible arrogance, to think that there is nothing to be learned from others.

Look at some numbers (I just ball parked an estimate )
Say an SP has been around for 5 years and sees a different Perbert three time a week. That's 5 * 3 * 52 = 780

Do you really think that YOU are going to offer her some amazing insight into the business that she hasn't already heard from a prior conversation ??

Note that the thread is about REVIEWS ... a rather specific topic ...

 

[Stella_Hardon]

Anyway, let me break my opinion into levels of negativity:

• Type 1-There is a post that is disrespectful, negative and has nothing of value. An example would be the incident where some boys and girls including myself stepped in. The poster did not even stay for a session with any of the girls and wrote his post. His post was not respectful and did not add value. His post was bashing and in his own words "old, washed, beaten, ugly, undesirable, unhirable, uneducated....they should pay him instead". Thanks to Moderator-1 who removed the thread.
• -Type-2....
• Type-3-There is a post that is respectful, honest, negative and of value
  Examples range from bad experiences to total scams. A guy who saw a girl that does not even want to have fun up to a guy who got ripped off...the guy would say respectfully why the experience was bad while providing examples. She smelled bad (smoked). She was on the phone. She stood him up, wasted his time,...She was texting. She stopped him in the middle of fun as she does not wish to enjoy...or used her hands to stop you or ... or there was misrepresentation in her part of services or rates or pictures...her pictures were not a good representation....bait and switch...or scammer...
  

A negative but respectful opinion. There is no need for third party to step in. It is what is whether you believe it or not. But just do not attack the reviewer newbie or not.

These are some additional thoughts and my opinion

What happened to Type 2 .

Nice to see some ideas brought into the thread.
Will you be picking up the thread from our previous conversation

 

[jnewton]

Quote Originally Posted by Stella_Hardon View Post
An SP who has an advertising presence on Perb is already at the top of her form.
I seriously doubt if a Perbert can provide her with a useful insight.



Look at some numbers (I just ball parked an estimate )
Say an SP has been around for 5 years and sees a different Perbert three time a week. That's 5 * 3 * 52 = 780

Do you really think that YOU are going to offer her some amazing insight into the business that she hasn't already heard from a prior conversation ??

Note that the thread is about REVIEWS ... a rather specific topic ...

Arrogant, self-righteous, condescending, and borderline misandry. What lovely traits.