advice to an sp

[sevenofnine]

just curious,
has any one given advice to an sp.
i mean marketing advice or tips on how to make or give us guys a good session.


i guess, my first comment would be, is
advice is like ass holes every body has one,

and then well the obvious its my body and my lively hood your not going to tell me what to do,,


but well every good company or business asks for feed back,
but try to give an sp feed back on anything other then she was great and well you had better duck, or be prepared for an arguement


i was bored today, i just saw an ad, of a lady i know,
and i just thought to myself oh really.

it just seems odd to me,
ladies complaining things are slow.

women with ads out there that pretty much scream come and fuck me, but there are no takers or very few.

guys are so easy. so horny

it just seems sometimes that the women in this, don't get it or take care of the simple things.
and guys its not that they don't want sex, but,
its just that sometimes you pay alot of money, and well,
just alot of little things get in the way and you wonder why bother,


and then a women asks why business is slow.

i dunnot maybe

im out to lunch, have no idea what im talking about,

but have you ever thought, that some times you could teach a thing or two to some of these ladies on how to treat a guy,

 

[bcneil]

Sometimes you want to.
I find especially when going through ads. Just how poorly done many are.
Personally if an erslist ad has more than three spelling mistakes, I see it as a reason to avoid.

But not on their services. Maybe a type of sexy outfit I think she would rock. Half advise half a hint for next time. But not on service, I think it might annoy ladies. Kind of like telling a girlfriend, how your ex used to suck on you.

 

[luvsdaty]

Nope, just pay my money, dump my load & go about my business.Most people don't really wanna hear your advice, they just wanna hear you tell them what they wanna hear.

 

[Alix Turner]

Ok.. I'm in, just let me know when your schedule is free and the next client that gets in touch with me and is willing to let you show me how best to spend my time with him will be all yours


I'll take notes.

 

[Gentle-man]

just curious,
has any one given advice to an sp.
i mean marketing advice or tips on how to make or give us guys a good session.

Yes, but only when asked (marketing questions only, I have never had reason to suggest how to give a good session)
I have offered opinions on web-design/ads to those who have requested feedback and opinions.
I would not dare to suggest to a lady that didn't want to know my thoughts or opinion.

 

[Hoops]

Sometimes you want to.
I find especially when going through ads. Just how poorly done many are.
Personally if an erslist ad has more than three spelling mistakes, I see it as a reason to avoid.

Yeah, if they can't spell dfk, daty, bbj and msog I avoid.

seriously, tho. Just because they can't spell doesn't mean they are not a great sp. haha

 

[sevenofnine]

Ok.. I'm in, just let me know when your schedule is free and the next client that gets in touch with me and is willing to let you show me how best to spend my time with him will be all yours


I'll take notes.

i get your point,

its your job and lively hood and well body.
but

if you think any one is perfect,

just for comparisson
i watched a interview with tom brady,
if anyone doesn't know, he is one of the best nfl quarterbacks, perhaps the best of all time for sure he is in the conversation,

and you would not believe the effort he goes through to improve, in season of season. it really is something,
and i mentioned this once before i have done a job for thirty years,
and im rather good at what i do,
but still the same, there are areas i can work on,

and its not just about sex and sexual technique its clothes advertizing, energy attitude

i sometimes i think well never mind.

i really didn't think any sp was willing to take advice

 

[violetblake]

I think anyone who's professional and takes pride in their work, no matter what it is, should be open to constructive criticism. The problem is, not everyone knows how to give it, and may come across as rude or demanding. If you're selling shoes, it's easy to forget about, but in our line of work it's hard not to take it personally. But I think a lot of SPs will either ask clients or other SPs if they're not sure if they're doing something right, or maybe they'll read online threads about certain topics to get more info. So professional SPs will go out of their way to improve their work.

 

[Alix Turner]

i get your point,

i really didn't think any sp was willing to take advice

I don't think it's so straightforward as that. Essentially, what you have to offer is experienced insight. Advice should be 1) sought and 2) come from a respected source or it is unlikely be worth giving someone

I see this post as condescending, I don't understand why you would be so comfortable saying sp's can't take advice instead of posting the advice you have and hoping someone takes it.

Personally, when I started working as an escort, I took a lot of advice both from the man Norman that contacted me for marketing purposes and from the girls I spoke to that were already working as escorts. Norman had a lot of good advice and a lot of bad advice, not taking the bad advice ultimately got me removed from perb for about six months (thanks again for getting me back in here Adrianna) The advice I took from the women I met was the advice I asked for, and I appreciated their experience and how their clients regarded them so it made sense to follow their leads.

How about taking your advice and packaging it as an observation when you share it
or better yet, since it is something that you want... be polite and make a request.
you might find girls are a lot happier to take a request to make you happy, than take advice because you know how to do her job better than her

 

[myselftheother]

I agree with you Alix...

This is very patronizing, actually offensive that 7of9 is offering advice. Seven...Tom Brady works on his performance, techniques and is coached by people who have played the game, are ex-pro players or have been coaching players for years. He has performance coaches, trainers and the like. They have an intimate knowledge of the game, have experiences similar to his, and can understand what it takes to be successful.

What you are suggesting is on the same level as if Brady would be taking performance tips from the idiots in a fantasy football pool at the bar. It would be if Luongo instead of listening to his goal coach he'd be taking tips from BJhunter. Don't give unsolicited advice, unless you've been there, done that and got the scars. I would think a guy your age would know that by now.

 

[myselftheother]

I don't know....you could always tofft and write a review?:thumb:

 

[Elmore]

I agree with you Alix...

This is very patronizing, actually offensive that 7of9 is offering advice. Seven...Tom Brady works on his performance, techniques and is coached by people who have played the game, are ex-pro players or have been coaching players for years. He has performance coaches, trainers and the like. They have an intimate knowledge of the game, have experiences similar to his, and can understand what it takes to be successful.

What you are suggesting is on the same level as if Brady would be taking performance tips from the idiots in a fantasy football pool at the bar. It would be if Luongo instead of listening to his goal coach he'd be taking tips from BJhunter. Don't give unsolicited advice, unless you've been there, done that and got the scars. I would think a guy your age would know that by now.

Tom brady?!?!? Seriously?? That analogy applies to 1 in a million escorts.
Tom Brady is in the top 2 QBs in the league and has been at it forever.
The overwhelming majority of women working as escorts are not "seasoned veterans". This board may have an abundance of ladies who seem to have it all figured out but for every lady like that I would guess there are 5 or 10 who are still figuring things out and many never will.

It seems like the OP has good intentions which is probably better than most who aren't too concerned about how successful an escorts business is. But unless he really knows a lady well, it's probably best that he minds his own beeswax.

 

[myselftheother]

Tom brady?!?!? Seriously?? That analogy applies to 1 in a million escorts.
Tom Brady is in the top 2 QBs in the league and has been at it forever.
The overwhelming majority of women working as escorts are not "seasoned veterans". This board may have an abundance of ladies who seem to have it all figured out but for every lady like that I would guess there are 5 or 10 who are still figuring things out and many never will.

It seems like the OP has good intentions which is probably better than most who aren't too concerned about how successful an escorts business is. But unless he really knows a lady well, it's probably best that he minds his own beeswax.

Tom Brady was just a reference that the OP used, so I was just using Brady as an example that coaching and advice ought to only come from those who are in the game, not the sportstalk dudes..

 

[the old maxx50]

I think 7of9 question has just been answered.

I personally think that some girls need to know that what they are dong is not working ...because .. and state the reasons .. I know people do not lik eto here what they are doing wrong just our nature .. and women don't like to be told period ... so any guy that want to give advice to a woman is looking for some hurt

But it still need to be said .. The add don't do much for me when they are badly made , crappy pictures and the price is too high ... Look girls you are selling a image , a fantasy for some .. pleasure for others and n having sexy pictures .. and not just in your face pics does wonders .. it helps if they are real and resent .

Your web site , or add is your one chance to introduce your self to use ... unless we have seen you in person before ... and first impressions all ways count in business .. Even your comments on the review board will ether turn a guy on or off of you .. and like wise I am sure what the guys say will all way make or break him getting a session with some of the women ... But with me my on line persona in my alter ego I am usually a pussy in real life ... but I do roar some times

 

[Arrrg]

Kind of like telling a girlfriend, how your ex used to suck on you.

lol exactly.

 

[Alix Turner]

I think 7of9 question has just been answered.

I personally think that some girls need to know that what they are dong is not working ...because .. and state the reasons .. I know people do not lik eto here what they are doing wrong just our nature .. and women don't like to be told period ... so any guy that want to give advice to a woman is looking for some hurt

But it still need to be said .. The add don't do much for me when they are badly made , crappy pictures and the price is too high ... Look girls you are selling a image , a fantasy for some .. pleasure for others and n having sexy pictures .. and not just in your face pics does wonders .. it helps if they are real and resent .

Your web site , or add is your one chance to introduce your self to use ... unless we have seen you in person before ... and first impressions all ways count in business .. Even your comments on the review board will ether turn a guy on or off of you .. and like wise I am sure what the guys say will all way make or break him getting a session with some of the women ... But with me my on line persona in my alter ego I am usually a pussy in real life ... but I do roar some times

It doesnt matter how good a womans spelling is, if you don't find her attractive in her classy unedited photos, aren't a guy who is interested in her safe but clearly stated menu of services, and don't have a budget that allows for her market average rates... you aren't going to see her.

Honestly, I personally wouldn't pay to see someone that didn't do it for me even if they were delightful and very well spoken with a great set of references. I know this because if I am paying to sleep with someone, I am only going to look at those people who inspire all sorts of lusty thoughts. I am definitely hoping they will also be great fun to talk to, extremely polished in their appearance and manners, and a charming professional (within my budget) but in the end.. Unless the sexy person manages to turn me off with their pre meeting phone etiquette (and crappy spelling, and poor organization) I'm going to hire them every time over the person that does everything right and nothing for my libido.

say what you will about giving girls advice, but what will ultimately work is speaking with your wallet and not visiting women who conduct their business in a manner you find lacking... its by far the most powerful tool you have as a consumer when it comes to getting the attention of the vendors

 

[steverino]

I have had a number of ladies ask me questions related to some aspect of their marketing.

 

[wilde]

I have given some solicited tax advice in the past and it sort of morphed into a contra deal, the SP gave me an hour of her time in return for an hour and a half of mine (kind of unfair now that i mentioned it). I believe it was mutually beneficial.

 

[AA_Train]

I think 7of9 question has just been answered.

I personally think that some girls need to know that what they are dong is not working ...because .. and state the reasons .. I know people do not lik eto here what they are doing wrong just our nature .. and women don't like to be told period ... so any guy that want to give advice to a woman is looking for some hurt

But it still need to be said .. The add don't do much for me when they are badly made , crappy pictures and the price is too high ... Look girls you are selling a image , a fantasy for some .. pleasure for others and n having sexy pictures .. and not just in your face pics does wonders .. it helps if they are real and resent .

Your web site , or add is your one chance to introduce your self to use ... unless we have seen you in person before ... and first impressions all ways count in business .. Even your comments on the review board will ether turn a guy on or off of you .. and like wise I am sure what the guys say will all way make or break him getting a session with some of the women ... But with me my on line persona in my alter ego I am usually a pussy in real life ... but I do roar some times

LOL. You know, I was thinking about starting a thread like this but passed thinking it wasn't the best idea. but now that someone has started it for me, i'll just dive right in.

I think Maxx brings up two good points. Ads and websites are important in how you present yourself. Alix, you said that it is our wallets that vote. Well, politicians need to campaign and the right campaign strategy can get you those votes. Unlike some of my fellow perberts, spelling isn't super important, but the heart of the content is. ialso think that board persona is important too. There have been a few ladies here I passed on seeing based on some of the things they have said. Some of it had to do with differing views but mostly it was the tone and manner in which they expressed themselves.

Here are 3 bits of advice I would give to an SP.

1. Pics in ads. Try to get a steady rotation and variety of pics. This includes some professional pics and some more candid ones and try to update fairly regularly. When it comes to the physical, guys want women to be a known quantity. You may gain weight, you may lose weight. You may cut and/or colour your hair. Whatever it is, we want to know.

2. Be on time. Would you be late for a business meeting? Probably not. The same here applies. Five or ten minutes isn't a big deal but for me, anything over 30 minutes is unacceptable, especially if the date was arranged with a few days notice. Things do happen ( I am sympathetic to that) and if so, correspondence is needed and today with smartphones, there is no excuse. And if you are running behind preparing, you need to manage your time better. That may sound harsh, but that's the way I see it.

3. Be honest and fair in all of your dealings. Speaks for itself.

 

[Elmore]

It doesnt matter how good a womans spelling is, if you don't find her attractive in her classy unedited photos, aren't a guy who is interested in her safe but clearly stated menu of services, and don't have a budget that allows for her market average rates... you aren't going to see her.

Honestly, I personally wouldn't pay to see someone that didn't do it for me even if they were delightful and very well spoken with a great set of references. I know this because if I am paying to sleep with someone, I am only going to look at those people who inspire all sorts of lusty thoughts. I am definitely hoping they will also be great fun to talk to, extremely polished in their appearance and manners, and a charming professional (within my budget) but in the end.. Unless the sexy person manages to turn me off with their pre meeting phone etiquette (and crappy spelling, and poor organization) I'm going to hire them every time over the person that does everything right and nothing for my libido.

say what you will about giving girls advice, but what will ultimately work is speaking with your wallet and not visiting women who conduct their business in a manner you find lacking... its by far the most powerful tool you have as a consumer when it comes to getting the attention of the vendors

Thank you. Perfect post as far as I am concerned.
For me it doesn't make sense to pay to sleep with someone I would not pursue in a bar. It is mostly about sexual chemistry of which mutual attraction plays a large role. This can exist with literally no verbal communication whatsover. But as mentioned, it is a huge plus if the woman is intelligent and fun to talk to.