A Possible Alternative to Escorts - One Guy's Experience So Far

[morementum]

I am a relatively new transplant back to BC. I am at a stage in life where I work way too much but have all the things in place to easily retire/not have to work by the time I am 40. However the amount of work time and travel leave it impossible to be tied into a proper relationship plus, and who am I kidding, I like to fuck around. In Montreal there was so many options for escorts and the quality was very high for the most part. Here the options are much less and the quality is widely variable with a huge number lying about looks and age with the age thing being amazing in how many ancient escorts are here out west. If I wanted to fuck my aunt's or my mom's friends I sure as hell wouldn't be paying for it.

So, I started playing a few ads starting about six months ago on Craigslist and similar looking for a mutually beneficial casual relationship. The response was overwhelming and though you have to weed through some fake responses, obvious trolls and some truly hideous responses, I have found no fewer than four or five "gems" that are really non-pro and are seemingly very happy with our arrangement. No strings. No drama. Different arrangement in each case but it works out in all aspects. Without lots of details, the response from those I have arrangements with all say it works perfectly for their lives and is really not different to them than having a guy buy them dinner and have a little wrestle afterwards. For the price of that dinner, we skip the meal and that's that.

Not saying it is for every guy to try but I was amazed at the response I got. Lots of pictures sent and lots of very attractive, very nice (non-dramatic or with baggage for you to take on) and very into a good wrestle ever once in a while ladies out there. Ages typically well under 30 and at least half are either doing courses and working or doing the latter but not at the stage in their careers where they can fully make ends meet.

Everyone would do this differently, my own rules are always use their place and/or public place, only do contact through my special computer account/phone account, don't fish too close to the pond you live, retain no personal information on anyone other than their basic contact information, if I feel any emotional connection starting on either side of the fence the contact is deleted, never pay for services down the road and stay the hell away from any drama.

For what it is worth - this may explain my lack of reviews for a while as I am finding the escort pickings right now both slim and overpopulated with a bunch of older escorts who somehow have a following.

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Oh darn! Does this mean I won't be getting a review from you?? You seem like such a quality and respectful would-be client ound:

 

[badbadboy]

I am a relatively new transplant back to BC. I am at a stage in life where I work way too much but have all the things in place to easily retire/not have to work by the time I am 40. However the amount of work time and travel leave it impossible to be tied into a proper relationship plus, and who am I kidding, I like to fuck around. In Montreal there was so many options for escorts and the quality was very high for the most part. Here the options are much less and the quality is widely variable with a huge number lying about looks and age with the age thing being amazing in how many ancient escorts are here out west. If I wanted to fuck my aunt's or my mom's friends I sure as hell wouldn't be paying for it.

So, I started playing a few ads starting about six months ago on Craigslist and similar looking for a mutually beneficial casual relationship. The response was overwhelming and though you have to weed through some fake responses, obvious trolls and some truly hideous responses, I have found no fewer than four or five "gems" that are really non-pro and are seemingly very happy with our arrangement. No strings. No drama. Different arrangement in each case but it works out in all aspects. Without lots of details, the response from those I have arrangements with all say it works perfectly for their lives and is really not different to them than having a guy buy them dinner and have a little wrestle afterwards. For the price of that dinner, we skip the meal and that's that.

Not saying it is for every guy to try but I was amazed at the response I got. Lots of pictures sent and lots of very attractive, very nice (non-dramatic or with baggage for you to take on) and very into a good wrestle ever once in a while ladies out there. Ages typically well under 30 and at least half are either doing courses and working or doing the latter but not at the stage in their careers where they can fully make ends meet.

Everyone would do this differently, my own rules are always use their place and/or public place, only do contact through my special computer account/phone account, don't fish too close to the pond you live, retain no personal information on anyone other than their basic contact information, if I feel any emotional connection starting on either side of the fence the contact is deleted, never pay for services down the road and stay the hell away from any drama.

For what it is worth - this may explain my lack of reviews for a while as I am finding the escort pickings right now both slim and overpopulated with a bunch of older escorts who somehow have a following.

Good for you morementum. I've dallied with the Civilians for a while now. So far it's been win win, zero drama with energetic playtime.

 

[morementum]

Good for you morementum. I've dallied with the Civilians for a while now. So far it's been win win, zero drama with energetic playtime.

Yup, same for me. I suspect a few desperate escorts will post trying to warn off others with some lame attempts at making the likes of you and I seem anomalies but I believe this is a trend that is virtually untapped given the responses I have received. I only leave an ad up for a few hours and will get more legit responses than I can deal with.

 

[morementum]

Oh darn! Does this mean I won't be getting a review from you?? You seem like such a quality and respectful would-be client ound:

Wow, what a perfect response to make my points! I couldn't have scripted a response better to the point where people will think you are shilling me. :clap2:

 

[vancity_cowboy]

well done morementum :thumb:

i might twist wrists with you over the use of the term non-pro, because i believe that once the hand closes around the cash offered, they become a pro of some sort. however, that's really just semantics and is not meant to detract from my congratulations offered above

i have had a few wonderful dalliances with ladies in similar circumstances to the ones you mention, and the freshness of their approach to the arrangements has always been extremely refreshing

 

[morementum]

well done morementum :thumb:

i might twist wrists with you over the use of the term non-pro, because i believe that once the hand closes around the cash offered, they become a pro of some sort. however, that's really just semantics and is not meant to detract from my congratulations offered above

i have had a few wonderful dalliances with ladies in similar circumstances to the ones you mention, and the freshness of their approach to the arrangements has always been extremely refreshing

Glad to hear you have had good success with this too. I agree on your semantic police work - I guess I meant I sensed (and still do sense) I am likely the only one in this arrangement with them. It really is refreshing and feels far more like a hook up you have on an outing that ends up with some spontaneous romp except in this case you are in control of the timing to your schedule/convenience.

Again, not saying this is for everyone but I can see a trend starting as the economic conditions make it harder for people to make ends meet, the number of people settling down diminishes and the fact that guys will remain interested in fucking a wide variety of women until they do settle down.

One thing I didn't add is there are some zealots who will try and flag such posts you may make if you use Craigslist. I complained enough about a few of them that they had their IPs banned as CL found nothing at all wrong with what I was posting. Trick is don't be explicit and never mention compensation. Mutually beneficial - that is the key term.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

i think i've seen some of your ads ^ ^

 

[morementum]

Great happy you found a new exit strategy to your life here. Glad to hear it's working for you. So if your not doing reviews on here I suppose you' ll be leaving here soon. No real reason for you to stick around now is there?

I will take the advice of your sign and only respond to you as always - so, here goes: thanks once again for your condescension and concern with everything that I do. I am pleased you find all that I do so fascinating and will look forward to your continued fandom. Please do not consider this feeding you.

 

[ddcanz]

We all have our own varied reasons for doing what we do here, and how we go about it as well. You've found another way to make things work for you and I applaud that. Good for you, and thanks for sharing! If it gives some guys a fresh take on the "hobby" it's worth the thread.
I too like a wide variety, and have several "non-pros" that I refer to as my "go-to girls" when I want to change things up, or a scheduled session with a flake falls apart. Not exactly the same situation that you speak of, but always safe and comfortable experiences with no drama.
The negative and sarcastic comments that will inevitably come your way from some SPs say a lot more about she who posts it. For all some of them know, you've already hooked up with them and a good time was had by all.Too funny!

 

[badbadboy]

Great happy you found a new exit strategy to your life here. Glad to hear it's working for you. So if your not doing reviews on here I suppose you' ll be leaving here soon. No real reason for you to stick around now is there?

Is the writing on the wall that when you reach 100 reviews, you too will be departing?

:high5:

 

[johnsmit]

I have to say .. that in many ways that's what some times happens with the escorts that we have seen. .that later become friends .. If they are not really working as escorts any more ..and you see them some time. And pay knowing it goes for stuff they need .. I don't see that as them being a pro Any more.

I got no problem with them having Some drama... and allso .. I got no problem becoming attracted to them ...I know that it up to them where they want things to go... Most cases they want some one younger for that long term relationship.

Of course with most girl that I know out of the business it has turned more platonic. .I still care about them and wish I could do more for them. .but I would love a romp with them too every now and then ..
I am not one for looking for new ones all the time..

 

[Dickson]

Very interesting idea. Not that I want to post myself on the internet for all to see. I have had professional match makes, and some "non pros" approach me for other reasons. But Due to my age, travel, life style, I do not see it working for me. It gets messy very fast. It get ugly quick. I gave that concept up over 12 years ago.

SPs are very clear cut. Personally I find Vancouver perfect for me with older more mature SP. The few nonpros were scary and not much fun. Did not want to play my games. My lawyer is not a big fan of that concept.

But if you do not have the money to play then jumping into the open market might be an alternative but be careful you don't get burned.

I guess I do not have your looks Morementum or your charm to pull it off. I will stay with my favorite SPs her and around the Globe.

Good luck to you and all the other guys looking for free entertainment. I bet the site you post your ads in will be over run by guys which mean guys like me would have no chance next to you. So I will stay here. But good luck. Oh make sure to use lots of protection and get tested regularly. As the non pros maybe less concerned with that.

 

[ddcanz]

I concur with Badger that the sign is not a knock against the original post. The sign is not new. Morementum. I'm not sure I would have the skills to pull it off. But if it works for you. Awesome

First post, eh, SL? Awesome. Welcome. Good of you to stand up for BJ. He is so misunderstood on here.
So refreshing that a first post doesn't start with "Can anyone recommend a chick with/who/that......" Fuck that get's tiring.
Always better to give first, then ye shall receive.

 

[Real Sonny Burnett]

I am a relatively new transplant back to BC. I am at a stage in life where I work way too much but have all the things in place to easily retire/not have to work by the time I am 40. However the amount of work time and travel leave it impossible to be tied into a proper relationship plus, and who am I kidding, I like to fuck around. In Montreal there was so many options for escorts and the quality was very high for the most part. Here the options are much less and the quality is widely variable with a huge number lying about looks and age with the age thing being amazing in how many ancient escorts are here out west. If I wanted to fuck my aunt's or my mom's friends I sure as hell wouldn't be paying for it.

So, I started playing a few ads starting about six months ago on Craigslist and similar looking for a mutually beneficial casual relationship. The response was overwhelming and though you have to weed through some fake responses, obvious trolls and some truly hideous responses, I have found no fewer than four or five "gems" that are really non-pro and are seemingly very happy with our arrangement. No strings. No drama. Different arrangement in each case but it works out in all aspects. Without lots of details, the response from those I have arrangements with all say it works perfectly for their lives and is really not different to them than having a guy buy them dinner and have a little wrestle afterwards. For the price of that dinner, we skip the meal and that's that.

Not saying it is for every guy to try but I was amazed at the response I got. Lots of pictures sent and lots of very attractive, very nice (non-dramatic or with baggage for you to take on) and very into a good wrestle ever once in a while ladies out there. Ages typically well under 30 and at least half are either doing courses and working or doing the latter but not at the stage in their careers where they can fully make ends meet.

Everyone would do this differently, my own rules are always use their place and/or public place, only do contact through my special computer account/phone account, don't fish too close to the pond you live, retain no personal information on anyone other than their basic contact information, if I feel any emotional connection starting on either side of the fence the contact is deleted, never pay for services down the road and stay the hell away from any drama.

For what it is worth - this may explain my lack of reviews for a while as I am finding the escort pickings right now both slim and overpopulated with a bunch of older escorts who somehow have a following.

This is the '"John's" equivalent of Jerry Maguire's manifesto.

 

[morementum]

Very interesting idea. Not that I want to post myself on the internet for all to see. I have had professional match makes, and some "non pros" approach me for other reasons. But Due to my age, travel, life style, I do not see it working for me. It gets messy very fast. It get ugly quick. I gave that concept up over 12 years ago.

SPs are very clear cut. Personally I find Vancouver perfect for me with older more mature SP. The few nonpros were scary and not much fun. Did not want to play my games. My lawyer is not a big fan of that concept.

But if you do not have the money to play then jumping into the open market might be an alternative but be careful you don't get burned.

I guess I do not have your looks Morementum or your charm to pull it off. I will stay with my favorite SPs her and around the Globe.

Good luck to you and all the other guys looking for free entertainment. I bet the site you post your ads in will be over run by guys which mean guys like me would have no chance next to you. So I will stay here. But good luck. Oh make sure to use lots of protection and get tested regularly. As the non pros maybe less concerned with that.

Interesting response. You seem to think this is an alternative only for people who don't have any money (odd, as I am almost what I would consider financially independent) and secondly that non-sex trade workers who are sleeping with literally dozens of men a week somehow are at higher risk of STDs.

Interesting. Per some advice, will not feed you further.

 

[morementum]

I bet the site you post your ads in will be over run by guys which mean guys like me would have no chance next to you.

I guess you are not into the concept of sharing information on a site like this - odd as I thought that was the reason for being on such a site. Secondly, if you have that much insecurity and really feel you have no chance in life with a woman other than having to pay for it I would strongly suggest you take some of that vast wealth you imply and get a bit of therapy as short of being the elephant man, I suspect you are being too hard on yourself.

 

[76duster]

I guess you are not into the concept of sharing information on a site like this - odd as I thought that was the reason for being on such a site. Secondly, if you have that much insecurity and really feel you have no chance in life with a woman other than having to pay for it I would strongly suggest you take some of that vast wealth you imply and get a bit of therapy as short of being the elephant man, I suspect you are being too hard on yourself.

Get over yourself already!

 

[morementum]

Get over yourself already!

Did that a long time ago. Also learned a long time ago that cyber bullies are actually pretty insecure and calling them out is always the best thing to do. Someone likes to lecture a guy on a site that shares information about sharing information - well, he is going to get called out. If you don't like the topic, concept or even the nature of the thread, why on earth come here just to make some thinly veiled internet bully statement? Judging by the pms I have received since this went up this morning, let alone some of the positive posts here, this is apparently being taken as a very positive contribution.

So, while I will not take the bait with the trolls neither will I totally ignore their crap. Seemingly, that really rubs some the wrong way. To those, I only suggest you check your agenda.

 

[Dickson]

I guess you are not into the concept of sharing information on a site like this - odd as I thought that was the reason for being on such a site. Secondly, if you have that much insecurity and really feel you have no chance in life with a woman other than having to pay for it I would strongly suggest you take some of that vast wealth you imply and get a bit of therapy as short of being the elephant man, I suspect you are being too hard on yourself.

Never suggested you should not share your concept. I am here because some SPs suggested I share my stories and life style. I just indicated it would not work for me. Sorry if My compliment was taken as insecurity. I have had enough bad relationships both inside the SP world and out to say it does not work for me. I wish much luck and hope you have a large following of guys who do not want to pay to play. My experiences will ladies who will their bodies for free might have a different standard that ladies that make a living with their body. But it is an observation. You are much wider and more knowledgeable, and much wealthier than I.

Much can be learned from your example. Wish I had the capability to have women sleep with me for free. You should see if a few of them might start paying you and you could retirer sooner.

Good luck to you. Bang away morrmentum, bang away. Enjoy you only go around once.

I am not that smart so I will keep paying and playing. Ever though franchising the idea. I could see you on that shark show.