America's Gun Violence Problem Explained in 18 Charts

poorboyv6

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Rifles are the violent tool used in mass shooting. Hand guns are not.

NRA is behind mass shooting, yes. Literally and possibly actually. You are welcome to view that position as delusional. May be not as delusional as sending sympathies and prayers after mass shooting and hoping that will somehow prevent more shooting rampage and children from being slaughtered.

Gun is the preferred firearm used in mass shootings. I haven't heard of 19 people murdered at any school by a lone knifeman.
No research again.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Since you do not know anything about firearms, I will point out for you that revolvers are also handguns, so you need to add both semi auto handguns and revolvers together for the total number of handguns, even though the semi auto handgun numbers already easily exceed the rifle numbers. Just because you believe rifles are the choice of firearm of mass murders doesn't make it so.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

19 people murdered by knife.

Every time you post, you show how naïve you are. Every time.

You are the one with the biased opinion. You think quick and simple fixes will solve a complex problem in a society that was forged by the gun.

The do nothing strategy is the only strategy that has reduced gun sales in the U.S. That is a fact.
 
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poorboyv6

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Your man Lott doesn't have a very credible history. When challenged about a research project, he was unable to produce the original data or any record that he had conducted research, he couldn't even remember the names of the students he claimed had worked on the research with him.

He also admitted, once he was caught, to creating a fake online persona to defend and praise himself and his work.

Sorry man, just because you chose biased 'research', from a discredited researcher, to base your argument on, it doesn't mean all research is biased.
All research is not biased, but there are definitely biased anti firearms claims. Look at thodispagal and the number of claims he makes that can be proven false by multiple sources.
 
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thodisipagal

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No research again.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Since you do not know anything about firearms, I will point out for you that revolvers are also handguns, so you need to add both semi auto handguns and revolvers together for the total number of handguns, even though the semi auto handgun numbers already easily exceed the rifle numbers. Just because you believe rifles are the choice of firearm of mass murders doesn't make it so.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

19 people murdered by knife.

Every time you post, you show how naïve you are. Every time.

You are the one with the biased opinion. You think quick and simple fixes will solve a complex problem in a society that was forged by the gun.

The do nothing strategy is the only strategy that has reduced gun sales in the U.S. That is a fact.
The issue is not about knowing technicalities of guns. Yes, I am not obsessed about guns as you clearly are.

That obsession is likely keeping you blind about the bipartisan dialog underway on taking away guns, gun rights notwithstanding. That obsession is keeping you blind about unilateral decisions by a giant gun store chain to not sell semiautos to anyone under 21.

Open your mind, open the window, smell some fresh air, and read. Or, in your own word, do a bit of "research". Maybe just Google "red flag law" but I suspect you will not like what you see.
 

poorboyv6

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The issue is not about knowing technicalities of guns. Yes, I am not obsessed about guns as you clearly are.

That obsession is likely keeping you blind about the bipartisan dialog underway on taking away guns, gun rights notwithstanding. That obsession is keeping you blind about unilateral decisions by a giant gun store chain to not sell semiautos to anyone under 21.

Open your mind, open the window, smell some fresh air, and read. Or, in your own word, do a bit of "research". Maybe just Google "red flag law" but I suspect you will not like what you see.
I have proven I have an excellent view of the issue.

I don't make hair brain statements like "let's look to the Australians" when the Minister who crafted the legislation says it won't work in the U.S. That's not a technicality.

The only thing new legislation is going to do is make people feel better and cause an increase in gun sales.

Mass shootings will continue in the U.S. I know that, and you know that.
 

thodisipagal

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I have proven I have an excellent view of the issue.

I don't make hair brain statements like "let's look to the Australians" when the Minister who crafted the legislation says it won't work in the U.S. That's not a technicality.

The only thing new legislation is going to do is make people feel better and cause an increase in gun sales.

Mass shootings will continue in the U.S. I know that, and you know that.
The only harebrained comment being made here is coming from you. Suddenly an Australian minister is now a policymaker on gun control in another country?

Mass shootings will continue as long as gullible harebrained citizens are brainewashed by NRA and the gutless Republican politicians tow the NRA line.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/10/total_number_of_gun_deaths

Look at the chart and ask yourself why gun control measures cannot work in America.

Your assertion that people who are not obsessed about gun and its technicalities should not be talking about gun control is akin to saying people who do not know about the anatomy of female genitalia should not be protesting rape culture.
 

poorboyv6

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The only harebrained comment being made here is coming from you. Suddenly an Australian minister is now a policymaker on gun control in another country?

Mass shootings will continue as long as gullible harebrained citizens are brainewashed by NRA and the gutless Republican politicians tow the NRA line.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/10/total_number_of_gun_deaths

Look at the chart and ask yourself why gun control measures cannot work in America.

Your assertion that people who are not obsessed about gun and its technicalities should not be talking about gun control is akin to saying people who do not know about the anatomy of female genitalia should not be protesting rape culture.
Do you read anything at all? There is no Australian that is a policy maker in the U.S. There is a an Australian Ambassador who after living in the U.S. and learning the difference between the U.S. people and constitution has made a comment that the countries are too different and Australian style gun control won't work in the U.S. Hokey first made those comments in 2017. But since you don't research anything, I guess that's why you think he's suddenly making those statements.

More gun control won't do anything. You just fail to see it. Making more rules won't do anything if no one enforces them.

Devin Kelly would have had a harder time killing 25 people if the USAF properly registered him as a criminal so his access to firearms were limited, but the USAF failed to their job.

Nickolas Cruz would have had a harder time killing 17 people if the Sherriff's department and FBI did their job and seized his firearms for public safety after the number of calls there showing him as a problem.

Your charts show another research failure on your part. Again, there are more firearms now in Australia than pre ban.

The U.S. is also on a downward trend for deaths per 100,000 people. That's despite the fact there are more firearms in the U.S. now than any time in history.


You can blindly protest anything without knowing about it. If you want to know about what you are actually protesting and not come up with hair brained solutions, you need to know something about it.

Educate yourself.
 
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