Anonymous Poll ! Are you willing to give a reference to see a SP ? (Inspired by RRC)

[VanessaofBC]

Reference = The name and number or email address of another SP (possibly even two of your former SPs) so that they could do a "reference check" and exchange information about you.

I do not think there is grey area here. You either would or you would not provide a reference to see a SP.

Yes
No

 

[MissingOne]

Only with the prior consent of the SP whose name I used as a reference.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Only with the prior consent of the SP whose name I used as a reference.

How do you usually obtain consent?

 

[PierreCoeur]

That's the problem - most SP communicate by phone call only - so how you going to get her email address so she can provide you a reference.

 

[NataliaBijoux]

I have given lots of references.. usually the gentlemen contacts me and asks if I would provide a reference for 'so and so' Then the girl they want to see emails,texts or calls. They don't want details.. just want to know if they are respectful and a good client.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Or, sometimes I just ask the referencing provider to provide the reference in person.......duo!

Now there's looking at the big picture...HA!!

 

[badbadboy]

I have given lots of references.. usually the gentlemen contacts me and asks if I would provide a reference for 'so and so' Then the girl they want to see emails,texts or calls. They don't want details.. just want to know if they are respectful and a good client.

I always appreciated that you vouched for me and it made a nice bond between us. You are a nice person Natalia!

I am happy to help you in any way, any time

 

[good2bbad]

Not a bigee. Have provided references in the past when a lady asks for them. Sometimes just providing my handle is enough
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[NataliaBijoux]

Anytime, you know that xoxo

I always appreciated that you vouched for me and it made a nice bond between us. You are a nice person Natalia!

I am happy to help you in any way, any time

 

[MissingOne]

How do you usually obtain consent?

No SP has ever asked me to provide a reference. I only meant that if I were asked, I would want to get prior consent from the SP acting as a reference. That's SOP in any business transaction in which references figure.

I have found that when I see a PERB advertiser for the first time, my PERB handle is a useful way of introducing myself.

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

If a girl asks for a reference I simply point them to my reviews and many of them have the SP responding to it.
Very few girls out there want references and most SPs don't want to share their clients.
If you have a legit forum account and post reviews that's all one needs.

 

[VanessaofBC]

If a girl asks for a reference I simply point them to my reviews and many of them have the SP responding to it.
Very few girls out there want references and most SPs don't want to share their clients.
If you have a legit forum account and post reviews that's all one needs.

Thanks for contributing Bobo, do you know anything about Calgary? I think references are becoming standard practice for Calgary.

Not a bigee. Have provided references in the past when a lady asks for them. Sometimes just providing my handle is enough
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Not to be rude but in this case reference means " The name and number or email address of another SP (possibly even two of your former SPs) so that they could do a "reference check" and exchange information about you.", as stated above. CVDon'r forget, not everyone has a board "handle"

 

[dickotoole]

I have. And because I don't like to I have also been able to talk my way past the requirement. Providing a reference requires that one becomes 'known' by the providers providing the reference and the one requesting the reference. This removes a layer of anonymity and I prefer to be unknown in this hobby.

 

[WildBob]

Yeah I would.

But as an SP would you remember a client you saw three months ago once, and would you provide a reference for a client you had seen once. And does the same still apply for agency SP's? The caller would contact the agency?

 

[NHolt]

I don't like the idea of being assumed to be a creep unless I have proof otherwise. If I was too be asked, I'd probably pass, but I don't see SPs much at all so I wouldn't even have a reference really.

Also does this mean a first timer would be rejected?

Can I ask the SP for references?

 

[chuckertmg]

This removes a layer of anonymity and I prefer to be unknown in this hobby.

Personally I'm not so paranoid, but maybe I should be. I've routinely provided references particularly when seeing higher end courtesans - I consider this a normal part of the business. This past year though, two separate companions have spontaneously offered to provide references for me if needed, but at the same time warned me not to be so free with my personal information (apparently I was too trusting…)
My only hesitation in providing a reference was when using my local favourite whom I see frequently - it just feels a bit like infidelity, believe it or not… weird, but true.

And does the same still apply for agency SP's? The caller would contact the agency?

No - the courtesans I've seen will indicate that they want the companions used as references to have their own "web presence". I don't think agencies are very forthcoming and they can be particularly unhelpful with this sort of thing.

Also does this mean a first timer would be rejected?

No. Most specify other information that you can provide in lieu of a reference, but it falls under the category of "personal information" such as a work phone number. Please remember though, that this is for the safety of the companion. They're taking a leap of faith just by agreeing to see you….

 

[SuperGrover]

Nope. This may be necessary in the US where police stings are common, but in Canada (Lower Mainland at least) , this is overkill.

I'll just go on to the next hotty if I'm asked for a reference. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Perhaps you should create your own "john review board". The domain "vjrb.ca" is not yet taken! That's Vanessa's John Review Board in case you were wondering.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Nope. This may be necessary in the US where police stings are common, but in Canada (Lower Mainland at least) , this is overkill.

I'll just go on to the next hotty if I'm asked for a reference. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Perhaps you should create your own "john review board". The domain "vjrb.ca" is not yet taken! That's Vanessa's John Review Board in case you were wondering.

Why would it be considered overkill? References would let me be prepared for the client, I would know what type of guy was gonna walk through my door, what he looks like, if he has any kinks.

Iirc Ter has clients that are "whitelisted".

 

[AA_Train]

Here I see the point of view of both the fox and the hound. With a touring SP I did provide a reference and didn't feel uncomfortable doing so because this lady and I had seen each other several times and I felt she would only tell the touring lady information I wouldn't mind her hearing. This would include confirmation of the contact info I have provided and basically just to vouche for to say I am a good, trustworthy client. I would never want a lady to share intimate details of our encounter(s) as that would violate the discretion we share together. (Which is also why I don't share the intimate details of my encounters in my reviews). Discretion works both ways and what happens behind closed doors should stay there. This is why I am hesitant to see providers who ask for references because I am not privy to what is being said about me. Also, as Hatrick mentioned, it seems like a lot of extra work to see an SP. It's like we are interviewing to be a client when really it should be the other way around. We are the consumer and in the marketplace it is the vendor who needs to sell the consumer, not the other way around. I understand the need for safety but at the same time I feel providing SPs with certain kinds for information can open the door for trouble.

Then there begs the issue for newbies or for people who haven't been active in awhile and all their old SPs have retired , what to do then? One response in this thread said provide them with a work number. BAAAAD advice. That's more information than I would ever want an SP to know. I may tell an SP what I do but not where I do it. Would an SP tell me where they work and give me their work number if they had a second job? Probably not. Two way street as far as I am concerned.

My point is as pooners we should be careful with who we share our personal information with and do everything we can to keep this hobby on the down low. What happens between a client and an SP should stay between them. It's not a matter of shame or shyness but more so we can maintain some semblance of a private life. Asking/providing references begs one to think of sacrificing privacy for safety and in what situation is it worth it.

 

[johnniejetpack]

What a hassle you need permission to see someone, ha ha ha that would be the day. No babe is that special to get me jumping thru hoops with references to see her seems like a total pain in the ass I would not want to see someone that paranoid. There is more poon out there than I can possibly fuck as is and I TOFTT for better or worse, the mystery is part of the game and a nice surprise is the reward.

I am with hatrick on this one... any SP requiring references will not be hearing from me.