Lots of times i see lineups .... just not interested cause of false advertisement and fake pics. Had a few occassion the receptionist stood infront of the door telling me i owe her money for wasting her time. A few times i ordered a outcall and was told to pay a 50.00 driver fee. I tell them they are too old and tell them to scram.
Would you pay a cancellation fee?
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If its a fake pic or fake description I wouldn't pay a cent. If its an outcall and they want to make a scene, go back into your room, lock the door (with them outside) and call hotel security. Simply tell them someone you don't know is banging on our door. NO PAY FOR B&S!!!
If the gal that shows up or I show up for is not as advertised......I WILL WALK....or tell her...TO START WALKING....this not the drive through at Mcdonalds....I get what I want...or I dont get it AT ALL...no complaining to the manager....no bitching that I did not get what I wanted after the fact.....if the gal is not as advertised then she is done with...no cancellation fee no nothing.
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Lag, are you talking about lineups like at an amp or mp where the girls come out for you to see? I would never pay a fee for something like that unless they had told me about it ahead of time. If I go into Home Depot and an employee shows me some merchandise and tells me a little about it, but i decide it's not what I want, do I owe the store a fee because I wasted their time? And if they (Mp, amp, etc) told me ahead of time that they charge a fee if I don't buy, I would just walk out without seeing the girls. If they blocked the door, looks like there is going to be trouble anyway, so i would get out my phone, dial 911, and tell them I'm being held against my will and need help.
As far as an outcall, if there was false advertising then I'm not paying any driver's fee, let her piss and moan outside my door all she wants. I can just call the manager or police. But if she was what she advertised herself to be, was on time, and all the other normal expectations I would have of a professional, but i still canceled for some reason that wasn't her fault, i think she deserves the driver's fee, any other expenses she might have incurred, and something for her time wasted as well.
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PhoneGirl
You sound like the kind of client that causes misery for a MP.
If a client wastes an escorts time, by booking an outcall with the agency, there is more than one party involved. The driver, girl, and agency all have to get paid. You represent money going out of the escorts pocket by taking up one hour of her time to have her leave at the door.
If the case is the girl that came to the door is "too old", that's not a valid excuse except if there was there a severe error and the person who showed up does not match the description/pictures you were given. Reputable agencies won't do this. You have every right to enjoy your experience , you could have called the agency and told them. They are a buisness and want your buisness, if you don't give them the opportunity to at least make amends, you are going to leave a seriously bad taste in their mouth.
It's a HUGE pain in the ass to have a client come to the door and waste the phone girls time by asking endless descriptions, asking to see pictures, requesting a cattle call (which we DON'T do), then end up not booking. If the phone girl said you were pissing her off, you must have done so somehow. We try to be as friendly as we can to the clients as long as they don't act like time wasters.
We have blacklists and certain protocols we have to abide by. Respect them and you'll be treated like gold, disrespect us and waste our time and we will not be happy.
You REFUSED to pay a drivers fee? That's a rookie mistake, you should have been given the prices or at least be a man and ask before you booked the call. You then told the SP she was "too old" and told her to scram? Do you understand how disrespectful that is because you couldn't shell out 50 bucks for her to come to YOU?
If a client wastes an escorts time, by booking an outcall with the agency, there is more than one party involved. The driver, girl, and agency all have to get paid. You represent money going out of the escorts pocket by taking up one hour of her time to have her leave at the door.
If the case is the girl that came to the door is "too old", that's not a valid excuse except if there was there a severe error and the person who showed up does not match the description/pictures you were given. Reputable agencies won't do this. You have every right to enjoy your experience , you could have called the agency and told them. They are a buisness and want your buisness, if you don't give them the opportunity to at least make amends, you are going to leave a seriously bad taste in their mouth.
It's a HUGE pain in the ass to have a client come to the door and waste the phone girls time by asking endless descriptions, asking to see pictures, requesting a cattle call (which we DON'T do), then end up not booking. If the phone girl said you were pissing her off, you must have done so somehow. We try to be as friendly as we can to the clients as long as they don't act like time wasters.
We have blacklists and certain protocols we have to abide by. Respect them and you'll be treated like gold, disrespect us and waste our time and we will not be happy.
You REFUSED to pay a drivers fee? That's a rookie mistake, you should have been given the prices or at least be a man and ask before you booked the call. You then told the SP she was "too old" and told her to scram? Do you understand how disrespectful that is because you couldn't shell out 50 bucks for her to come to YOU?
That is a hard one honestly...
First off, I cannot afford to waste the SP's time in the first place. Karma is around the corner... Second, I would have to do CAREFUL research on the SP. I enjoy honestly hitting up Incall places... Outcalls, to tell you the truth, I would have to hit off with the SP for at least three to five sessions. On top of that, CL, if you like taking risks then go for it. But in my point of view, CL is going all wacked and you don't really get what you pay for. A good business relationship (with the SP) bulids from excellent experience(s) and a trustworthy connection.
If I am wrong, well then, someone slap me in the face with some fresh sockeye salmon.
First off, I cannot afford to waste the SP's time in the first place. Karma is around the corner... Second, I would have to do CAREFUL research on the SP. I enjoy honestly hitting up Incall places... Outcalls, to tell you the truth, I would have to hit off with the SP for at least three to five sessions. On top of that, CL, if you like taking risks then go for it. But in my point of view, CL is going all wacked and you don't really get what you pay for. A good business relationship (with the SP) bulids from excellent experience(s) and a trustworthy connection.
If I am wrong, well then, someone slap me in the face with some fresh sockeye salmon.
im hardly a rookie and if the girl is not as advertised then i wont pay any driver 50.00. I have no problem shelling out whatever the cost is if she is as advertised. When i go for a incall and shelling out good money i have a right to know what she looks like,meeting the girl etc. You'd be surprised how many reputable agencies have misleading pics.
One thing i like about the kittenclub they have cool receptionist. They wont get all pissy if you come by looking at the lineup. I do have some agencies who list their girls at 20 and when they arrive they are mid 30s. No problem telling the driver and the sp to scram.
LOL. Never knew that's what it was called! Thanks Phone Girl. (Although I don't think I would have the nerve to walk into an MP, even one that does this regularly, and say "Hi, I'd like a cattle call please"!)
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PhoneGirl
You are taking everything I am saying out of context.
I do not expect to be tipped, there is a fee that the girl has to pay to me after she books her calls. It's simple, tipping is not expected, but appreciated. Where in that passage did I write that I expect to be tipped?
Communication is a two way street, a basic description like height, measurements, eye colour and age are given over the phone. If a client wants a young, fresh faced girl, he should ask for that. If for some reason I forget to mention the age and the client is particularly picky about age, he should still ask in order to not be dissapointed. The agency is responsible for giving accurate descriptions and making sure the girl gets there safely. If the client is going to rip us off and send a girl away because he doesn't want to pay a drivers fee, tough shit.
And lastly, nobody likes time wasters, so please, be respectful.
I do not expect to be tipped, there is a fee that the girl has to pay to me after she books her calls. It's simple, tipping is not expected, but appreciated. Where in that passage did I write that I expect to be tipped?
Communication is a two way street, a basic description like height, measurements, eye colour and age are given over the phone. If a client wants a young, fresh faced girl, he should ask for that. If for some reason I forget to mention the age and the client is particularly picky about age, he should still ask in order to not be dissapointed. The agency is responsible for giving accurate descriptions and making sure the girl gets there safely. If the client is going to rip us off and send a girl away because he doesn't want to pay a drivers fee, tough shit.
And lastly, nobody likes time wasters, so please, be respectful.
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PhoneGirl
Ah well, that's the approach if you want to turn your doorstep into an episode of Jerry Springer, I guess ..
PhoneGirl, I don't think any of us are talking about sending a girl away without paying when everything was done above board. Of course that would be bad on the clients part! (This seems to be what you think we are talking about.) I don't know where you work, but from your posts I get the impression that honesty is important to you, and that you and your agency do not use deceptive tactics. However, not all are the same....Communication is a two way street, a basic description like height, measurements, eye colour and age are given over the phone. If a client wants a young, fresh faced girl, he should ask for that. If for some reason I forget to mention the age and the client is particularly picky about age, he should still ask in order to not be dissapointed. The agency is responsible for giving accurate descriptions and making sure the girl gets there safely. If the client is going to rip us off and send a girl away because he doesn't want to pay a drivers fee, tough shit.
And lastly, nobody likes time wasters, so please, be respectful.
I think the subject here is what a client should do when he has been deceived in some way. Maybe he was told the girl is 20 years old, and a 30 or 35 year old shows up (and looks that old too!). Or the pictures used in her advertising either are not her (much more common than you seem to want to believe) or were in some other way not representative of her (taken 10 years ago, perhaps). Or maybe no one told the client he was expected to pay an extra $50 for the driver. It doesn't matter if the client didn't think to ask for these details ahead of time, it is your responsibility to tell him. You can not assume he is experienced enough with the procedures of your particular company to automatically know these things, or to know that he has to ask about them. You are the professional, not the client. If you fail to give him all the information, he is not responsible to pay for your oversight.
But, assuming everything was above board as you have said it is where you work, then I don't think this is what we are talking about here. We are talking about whether the client is responsible for the SPs expenses in getting to him when she (or her agency) has been deceptive in the first place, and this is the reason he is turning her away.
Completely off topic and I am not trying to hijack this thread.....but I gotta say that Hang5507 has the best avatar on PERB and would seriously like to shag that gal......and this is coming from a guy who only likes asian gals.
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PhoneGirl
It's very hard to communicate with you, you take everything out of context.
"Soul stripped bare"? Don't play dumb, these girls are adults and know exactly what they're doing. I facilitate a safe and clean place for them to work, that's all.
Time wasting is not when I give a client a description. Time wasting is when clients ask for endless descriptions in person with no intention of booking, ask to see pictures, ask to see the rooms, usually if they stay for more than 2 minutes they don't book. A lot of the time men just want someone to talk to. I consider them time wasters when they overstay their welcome without booking.
It is a clients responsibility to make sure he asks for what he wants, if he wants someone who is young, he should make that clear. I give the descriptions, I can't read his mind. haha
I am not a representative of everything that is wrong in the sex industry. If you want to stay away from MPs, thats your decision.
The "jerry springer episode" was brought up when methodman said he would call someone a "nasty bitch" and to "fuck off" if they asked for a cancellation fee. It was not a threat. Clients are ALWAYS given proper quotes on the phone when they speak with me, I can't speak for other agencies and I am not a representative of other agencies.
"Soul stripped bare"? Don't play dumb, these girls are adults and know exactly what they're doing. I facilitate a safe and clean place for them to work, that's all.
Time wasting is not when I give a client a description. Time wasting is when clients ask for endless descriptions in person with no intention of booking, ask to see pictures, ask to see the rooms, usually if they stay for more than 2 minutes they don't book. A lot of the time men just want someone to talk to. I consider them time wasters when they overstay their welcome without booking.
It is a clients responsibility to make sure he asks for what he wants, if he wants someone who is young, he should make that clear. I give the descriptions, I can't read his mind. haha
I am not a representative of everything that is wrong in the sex industry. If you want to stay away from MPs, thats your decision.
The "jerry springer episode" was brought up when methodman said he would call someone a "nasty bitch" and to "fuck off" if they asked for a cancellation fee. It was not a threat. Clients are ALWAYS given proper quotes on the phone when they speak with me, I can't speak for other agencies and I am not a representative of other agencies.
I do not do much with out-call girls. The one time i did call one, she was not what i was looking for and I gave her a 20 for her time and to help pay for her taxi back. I do not think she misrepresented herself. She did not appeal to me. With Independent SP especially with C.L. the pictures are way off quite a lot (surprise surprise). Generally comes down to if the person is close to the advertised pic. For example I have no problem with a SP using a similar like image to advertise themselves. You get there and she is generally attractive and a good time is had by all. I have repeated my business with those SP. I come to some of the independent Asian SP and found the difference between the image and reality or feeling about the situation way too much from what was advertised. I would generally give a cancellation fee of 20. That's for the ladies time in seeing me for 5 mins . I find Asian SP are like Avis..they try harder ;-) So try to treat the ladies like the a lady and respect their time. They are at work. With the Asian micro agencys in-call they always have a high turn over people working for them. That being the tourism/English language students factor of the business. Most times i have arrived and left happy but the odd time it not going to work I pay a compliment of a tip to the girls and say thanks but no thanks.
Now there was this one girl in Richmond who advertises on C.L under the name of "Amy" and uses 5 or 6 nice pics and same phone number. But she is overweight slightly and not at all like the pics and the service was sub par, IE: T.V. on in the back ground and money was paid out . In that case I should have canceled at first look. It was a less then average experience. In that case no cancellation fee as this is a pro using lots of great pics as the bait prepared for the switch.
As in anything buyer beware
but the odd time it not going to work I pay a compliment of a tip to the girls and say thanks but no thanks. Now there was this one girl in Richmond who advertises on C.L under the name of "Amy" and uses 5 or 6 nice pics and same phone number. But she is overweight slightly and not at all like the pics and the service was sub par, IE: T.V. on in the back ground and money was paid out . In that case I should have canceled at first look. It was a less then average experience. In that case no cancellation fee as this is a pro using lots of great pics as the bait prepared for the switch.
As in anything buyer beware
