Will all this "unrest" in America help or hinder re-election of Trump?

[JimDandy]

At one level, you would like to believe that a level headed American, when faced with the divisive leadership from Trump ("When the looting starts, the shooting starts"), would find one more reason to not vote for Trump in November. Especially if you contrast Trump's almost non response to the murder of George Floyd to RFK's speech after announcing the death of MLK "What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness, but is love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice towards those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.".

At another level, I suspect that the lawlessness that has followed the murder of Mr. Floyd will make some Americans want to choose a tough president that will "lay down the law" for the next 4 years after the November election if necessary. They may not perceive a Democrat president as tough enough to bring in 4 years of martial law, again, if necessary, even though it is hard to imagine that these riots will not blow over relatively soon and almost certainly before the November election.

So what do you think, will this unrest help or hinder Trump's election?

JD

 

[hedgeman]

His tweets are going to do him in as well, there are FAR more opponents of his posting now than his supporters...The man cannot stop slamming his foot into his mouth repeatedly. Plus now I saw Anonymous has leaked court documents about him and Epstien that had previously gone unnoticed or unreleased about a rape of a 13 y/o girl and they were competing to take her virginity (took place in 2016, if it's real, that is ONE HELL of a cover up!)...quite sickening all around down there the last week with everything going on. Reports he is becoming unhinged etc...

 

[Forum mod]

If this thread devolves into the same level of crap the others about Trump have, it will disappear as well.

There will be NO tolerance for conspiracy theory tinfoil hat bullshit. Trump supporters and detractors alike can and will get banned if they cannot keep a civil tone and the insults out of this.

 

[JimDandy]

If this thread devolves into the same level of crap the others about Trump have, it will disappear as well.

There will be NO tolerance for conspiracy theory tinfoil hat bullshit. Trump supporters and detractors alike can and will get banned if they cannot keep a civil tone and the insults out of this.

Yes, please keep on topic. Again, I'm simply asking a straightforward question: Will the riots/unrest in the 25+ US cities help or hinder Trump's re-election?

JD

 

[80watts]

Hinder...
Trump's actions show that he is borderline racist, anything he responds to in tweets is geared toward his popularity votes in certain segments of society, mainly toward the south eastern states Religious segment. It seems that republican stands for the word Christian, and that all churches are endorsing him in some way. Seems to be that the south which lost the civil war, lost their slaves and holds a grudge.
Since the civil war (Black were giving voting rights and citizenship), there has been a underlying non-support of Blacks in the states. Even in the north where the Blues won, there were people that could not deal with an Black man on a equal basis.
It came to a head with Martin Luther King Jr. now 50 years later there is still the underlying non-support of Black/Coloured people. Why? Well sure enough its racism... plain and simple.
Is it true that Coloured people don't have the same opportunities as a white person (seen by large cities with large populations of Coloured people who don't get the funding for schools, and other projects)?
A question to ask is "Is it rich vs poor?".

The police are at fault in this. Why? Training- lack of specific training (when a person is in custody (handcuffs) the officer is responsible for that person). Attitude: where a majority of white cops deal with Coloured people every day, they tend to think less of them because they have to deal with that type of shit behaviour (when arresting an person) every day. In Canada look at the Thunder Bay police force, having to deal with aboriginals from all over the north of Ontario, who with nothing to do, cause shit..... It is no wonder why the police have a bad attitude towards troublemakers. Now look at the states and add handguns into the mix and you can see why the police down in the US tend to shoot first and ask questions later.

Bringing in more police/national guard is not the answear, look back to the Vietnam war demonstrations.... That is just another way to tear up the US along racial lines.

 

[Miss Hunter]

These riots are getting pretty wild

 

[Gardener]

Hinder. Looks like he’s hiding in the presidential bunker tonight. Finally proves what we all suspected, he’s a coward.

 

[uncleg]

Hinder. Looks like he’s hiding in the presidential bunker tonight. Finally proves what we all suspected, he’s a coward.

With his ego I doubt that hitting the bunker was his idea. Secret Service has the call on that.

As to helping or hindering, depends on how long it goes on.....angry old white men want to see an iron fist when the untermenschen get restless, so if this goes on and it has to get quelled by force he'll benefit. If it fades out on it's own then it'll hinder him, cause then maybe by November all they'll remember was how useless he was in all this. If they forget Biden will be sure to remind them.

 

[UhOh]

He's a pussy. If the voters want a pussy for president they'll re-elect him.

 

[g eazy]

I don't think it will do much to change the minds of Americans. It will however, change the presidential race in that people who did not vote or had a difficult time registering to vote will now be making extra effort to do so. Of course in the end, this will only matter in a few swing states, but I wouldn't call it negligible at this point.

 

[hedgeman]

Obama has been a FAR better leader and more positive the last few days than the @bunkerboy will ever hope to aspire to be, and he isn't even president anymore

 

[steverino]

I think that those who are not hardcore Trump supporters are exhausted by the daily rants and this series of events will lead people to conclude that 4 more years is too stressful on themselves and the country.

 

[g eazy]

I think that those who are not hardcore Trump supporters are exhausted by the daily rants and this series of events will lead people to conclude that 4 more years is too stressful on themselves and the country.

I agree with this take, and would also add that those who voted for Trump because they wanted "something new in government" or "let's put a businessman in charge" had no rationalization in their decision - just because something is different, doesn't mean it's better.

 

[E.H.]

I have been watching KTLA News for the last 2.5 hours,it's been total heatscore galore.
Curfew was declared for 6 pm,anyone caught on the street is subject to arrest,in Los Angeles County.
Shit disturbances breaking out in Hollywood,West Hollywood,Van Nuys,Santa Barbara and inland to Riverside.
Currently,there is even a high speed autochase on the freeway,reminiscent of Al Cowling/OJ Simpson.

Over the last thee nights,arrests have been averaging 400-500.
This Monday Night is only beginning.
Wildness,wildness,wildness.
I'm going back to the T.V.,this level of civil insurrection,only happens about once a decade.

E.Humperdink

 

[Jessica Rain]

I don’t think this is going to help at all.

I think his re-election is done.

When Obama won, they had record voting. I think this will be another record breaking voting year.

At least I hope it will be.

 

[PierreCoeur]

Regardless if he get's reelected he will still control the USA for the next few years. His supporters are the whack christians, the white supremists and the racists who will bear arms and reject any results that would make Biden the president. If you are thinking these riots won't be the norm for the next ten years south of our borders, you need to wake up.

I am just hoping that it doesn't spill over into Canada. But I personally know people here and in other Provinces that support Trump and his racist behaviors. It's frightening knowing that we have people in our cities who hate blacks, asians, indigenous, trans, queers, muslims and jews who feel empowered to strike old people on buses and streets.

 

[Miss Hunter]

Why is Trump allowing the use of tear gas during a respiratory virus pandemic?

 

[Miss Hunter]

And I often wonder if that narcissistic asshole has dementia.

 

[JimDandy]

And I often wonder if that narcissistic asshole has dementia.

I'm certain he does. I have been certain of it since 2016.

He basically just reacts, and does no longer seem to have the ability to think out a strategy. Behaves more like a rattlesnake and much less like a chess player.

JD

 

[PierreCoeur]

Why is Trump allowing the use of tear gas during a respiratory virus pandemic?

He made certain it was infused with disinfectant. Republican Lives Matter.