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Why do men see low-priced girls?

WalterMitty

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Originally Posted by Snow White
"Why do men see low-priced girls?"

Because when it comes to working girls, there is no correlation between price and quality:

Expensive girls are hit-and-miss.

Inexpensive girls are hit-and-miss.

If you spend the same money on inexpensive girls, you get twice as many hits. Simple.

And if you find an incredible inexpensive girl, which fortunately happens quite often, you can see her twice as many times for the same money. What is here not to understand?
It is the absolute truth. There is no correlation whatsoever between what a girl charges and the quality of the service. Those who compare the ladies to cars, shoes or whatever are way off.

There are some girls who charge low end that give outstanding service. There are some girls who charge high end that give poor service.

Price is no reflection of the quality of the service. Period.

Walter
 

littlejimbigher

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With the mid-range price girls ($200-250) I get to pick the type of gal that turns me on the most (blonde and mid 20s)

I've tried the aisans and have been satisfied but not to the extent where I can fantasize about the session even days later.

I also prefer repeating with regulars who I know turn me on rather than gambling on unknown possibilities.

For many guys it is the hunt to find a new diamond in the rough at a cheap price. For me, it's the session itself.
Different strokes for different folks.
 

Katlyn

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Going back to the original topic, my main question stemmed from reading the reviews. I am starting to think that in actuality there is not quite so large a divide between the two. The good micros don't get reviewed as much because guys want to keep them to themselves. Conversely when the indys provide bad service it is not usually a horror story or a buyer beware like it can be with the micros (ie wrong girl in the photo, a male present in the apartment, etc) and there also tends to be a desire to please and not rock the boat so less negatives are posted.

From what I've read, racial preference aside, I still get the impression that the majority of people experience greater service from indys but that the reviews are quite skewed and do not paint an accurate picture with the divide being inconsequential to many (as in the difference in service quality is rather small for most). So in the end it doesn't come down to service (as I had originally been so confused about when reading those reviews) but instead comes down to personal preference, often (but not always) with either racial preference or money being the deciding factor. And the list of the other personal preferences that influence the decision is so long there is no point in getting into it :) (location, personality, attitude, specific acts, upselling, hair, eyes, etc etc etc)

Really an informative discussion we've had here guys, thanks so much :)
 
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For me it's the combination of looks and service. There are some sp who probably are decent in terms of service like Katlyn but im just not attracted to her. After seeing Katlyn pics I cant imagine going for a session even if it's free.
 
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Not a insult just saying there are some gals who are 250.00 up and cause there's no attraction wouldnt see them even if they are free. Too each their own im sure most guys find her attractive. I just like a difference body type like busty,young,early 20s,hot body etc.

LAG....Your post was fine right up until you insulted Kat. There's no need for that.
 

hang5507

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:eek: :eek:
For me it's the combination of looks and service. There are some sp who probably are decent in terms of service like Katlyn but im just not attracted to her. After seeing Katlyn pics I cant imagine going for a session even if it's free.
I can't imagine turning down free sex with a hot escort, even if they aren't my type.. Was it not said, that all cats look grey in the dark? .. or should I say Kitty..:D :D

Regards

H
 

BJhunter

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Maybe the guys who have $300+ and pay $300+ are just too damn busy with their lives to hang out on PERB.

And maybe the guys who hang out on PERB tend to be the lower-budget kinda clients, with more time than money on their hands.
Whatever the case may be, I just wanna get my good cock sucked ;):p
 

Katlyn

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Maybe the guys who have $300+ and pay $300+ are just too damn busy with their lives to hang out on PERB.

And maybe the guys who hang out on PERB tend to be the lower-budget kinda clients, with more time than money on their hands.
There is a ton of validity in this statement. I would estimate 60% or so of my fs clients find me on this board HOWEVER they are not posters, hence only having had my fs services reviewed by 2 perb members. They come here and read the ads only but don't post or read the other areas.



Hubba, etc as for comments against me...admittedly not worded the best way and might sound like a personal insult but don't worry about it, he's just using me as an example because I'm the active SP in this thread. I think his main point is valid (though slightly irrelevant as I'm sure there are less expensive escorts whom are not his type that he would not see for free either :p )
 
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There is a ton of validity in this statement. I would estimate 60% or so of my fs clients find me on this board HOWEVER they are not posters, hence only having had my fs services reviewed by 2 perb members. They come here and read the ads only but don't post or read the other areas.
...Agreed.
 

Purrr VertIcal

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I would guess, many women who set their pricing structure low, have various reasons for deciding that is their 'worth' or 'value'.

If not due to the need to work or desperation due to addiction, or lack of understanding of the overall market and their ideal place on the 'ladder', often it simply, probably has to do with self-esteem.

As I understand the term 'escort' -
Escorts are Escorts because they offer more than the 'roll in the hay'. They are usually refined women who can carry themselves in the best of social situations with people like top businessmen. A Wall Street Executive, out of town on business needs a Woman of Class to accompany him to an important Business Function or a critical meeting that includes the opera...
 
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melissa.in.abby

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I buy school supplies and bathroom stuff from Zellers, but i need my sheets to be nice. I usually shop at superstore for my cleaning supplies but sobeys for food and safeway for produce (they have the first choice in town, all their leftovers get distributed around to the other places).
Holy sh*t, your going all of town girl, aren't you? lmao ;)
 

MrPeterNorth

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Another way to look at it which hasn't really been considered - sometimes the poor services relates to the guy as well. What I mean is (and I'm generalizing here... not talking about everyone obviously) is that the guys willing to pay top-dollar can be 'snobby' clients - and thus sometimes get sour service even with a high-dollar-hottie. And that guys who see the low to medium priced girls tend to be a lot more modest and humble... and sometimes get better service?

There are so many angles you can pick apart from this.

Personally I have a certain threshold - $300/hr and if BBBJ is not offered for example, I probably won't see the lady. Then I feel I am over-paying for less service. That's why I get confused when I see guys shell out $320/hr at the Den with no kissing, no BBBJ and still be "amazed at the great service". :confused:
 

Miss*Bijou

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There is a ton of validity in this statement. I would estimate 60% or so of my fs clients find me on this board HOWEVER they are not posters, hence only having had my fs services reviewed by 2 perb members. They come here and read the ads only but don't post or read the other areas.

Yup, same for me. It's all about the lurkers out there and has always been this way for me :D There are FAR more lurkers than posters, so I've learned a long time ago, that the average poster here, doesn't always necessarily represent what's out there or the men I meet.


Though I've found it really interesting to read the various opinions and perspective on a bunch of hobby-related topics on Perb over the past couple of years, I know that most of the time, it isn't really representative of who I end up meeting. Not always, there are still a few exceptions, but mostly. Not good, not bad.. just the way it is, but it always makes me laugh when some posters make comments and seem to assume that this is universal pooner thing, when in reality what gets discussed and perspectives brought up on this board, are far from being unanimous and only reflect one portion of all pooners. ;)
 

FortunateOne

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Another way to look at it which hasn't really been considered - sometimes the poor services relates to the guy as well. What I mean is (and I'm generalizing here... not talking about everyone obviously) is that the guys willing to pay top-dollar can be 'snobby' clients - and thus sometimes get sour service even with a high-dollar-hottie. And that guys who see the low to medium priced girls tend to be a lot more modest and humble... and sometimes get better service?
Good point: arrogance and disrespect from the client will only breed contempt from the sp but shyness and nice attitude will no doubt bring out her nuturing side and she will go out of her way to show you a good time.
There are so many angles you can pick apart from this.

Personally I have a certain threshold - $300/hr and if BBBJ is not offered for example, I probably won't see the lady. Then I feel I am over-paying for less service. That's why I get confused when I see guys shell out $320/hr at the Den with no kissing, no BBBJ and still be "amazed at the great service". :confused:
But at the den, you pay 320, but she only gets 200. Therefore, you can really only expect 200/hr service: no kissing, no bbbj, shortened time perhaps. If she went indy and charged 300, you would no doubt receive those missing elements.
 

Katlyn

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I do not believe that there is necessarily a correlation between SP services and price unless a woman has built up her business.

As guys have said there are many high-priced SPs whose service sucks. There are also many lower-priced SPs whose service sucks.

There are many high-priced SPs whose service may be good just as there are low-priced SPs services who may be good.

However, I'd suggest that most higher priced women are, on average, much more physically attractive than the lower priced ladies. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptionally hot ladies at the lower price bracket nor does it mean there aren't unattractive/less attractive women at the higher price bracket. But I'd suggest that most women tend to price themselves based on how they percieve they physically look relative to the competing market they are in. THAT IS THE BIGGEST CORRELATION WITH SP PRICING...and unfortunately it is a woman's looks which is also what hooks many of us guys into seeing an SP for a first time without maybe considering other qualities of what makes a good session.

Those of us experienced in this hobby learn the hard way, of course, that just because a lady is hot doesn't mean she will necessarily give you your money's worth.

I'd also suggest, through experience, that there is a correlation between how high an SP likes to price themselves and the workload that a lady wants to take on...using the rules of supply and demand economics (AS A GENERAL RULE...OF COURSE THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS). I'd argue that most ladies who price themselves at $300 + an hour are, by nature, ladies who do not necessarily want to take on the same number of clients per day/week/month than the ladies who are willing to price themselves lower (ie. don't necessarily want to work as hard). That doesn't mean that there aren't women who charge high who aren't willing to work, but I'd suggest that there is a correlation...

...and in this vein I also believe, in my experience, that this oftentimes is also a reflection on the mindset and work ethic of many of these women...and that many women who are apt to be willing to work more dates are also more willing to give more effort in the session whether it be because they recognize the value of getting repeat business by doing this, or maybe even pride in what they do. As far as the high priced ladies...many of them are just fucking lazy and don't give shit service. This seems to happen way to often.

Now of course there will be the cream of the crop - the hottest of the hottest who give unbelievable service and market themselves to a clientelle that can afford to pay sky-high fees, and these ladies will work their asses off. I'm not talking about them.

But I believe in general that a great deal of the women that price themselves in the stratosphere aren't necessarily willing to work hard on the service end of it. I think for the most part they rely on their looks, get the guy in the door, take the $$$$$ dough, and then are happy to get the session done with asap and go spend their cash.

On the other end, I have found many hot women who price themselves reasonably in order to build a clientelle who will repeat often...these women are building their business. They may even eventually increase their prices once business reaches a certain level, but during the early stages of their career they are willing to work hard to create this demand. This is the type of woman I seek out. Unfortunately there may come a time where those women price themselves out of my range - but these women are out there and they are great when you find them at this stage.
I would guess, many women who set their pricing structure low, have various reasons for deciding that is their 'worth' or 'value'.

If not due to the need to work or desperation due to addiction, or lack of understanding of the overall market and their ideal place on the 'ladder', often it simply, probably has to do with self-esteem.

As I understand the term 'escort' -
Escorts are Escorts because they offer more than the 'roll in the hay'. They are usually refined women who can carry themselves in the best of social situations with people like top businessmen. A Wall Street Executive, out of town on business needs a Woman of Class to accompany him to an important Business Function or a critical meeting that includes the opera...
Another way to look at it which hasn't really been considered - sometimes the poor services relates to the guy as well. What I mean is (and I'm generalizing here... not talking about everyone obviously) is that the guys willing to pay top-dollar can be 'snobby' clients - and thus sometimes get sour service even with a high-dollar-hottie. And that guys who see the low to medium priced girls tend to be a lot more modest and humble... and sometimes get better service?
Great comments guys!

But as per my original request please do not turn this into a thread about rates, about women charging too much, if she is worth her price, how she values herself, indys vs micros etc etc, there are enough of those threads already. This thread was meant specifically to learn about the reasons a man sees a woman, not about why a woman prices herself a certain way and if she is worth it or not. I do enjoy your comments but unfortunately once people start making comments like these the thread turns into an argument and like I said there are many other threads where these arguments are already happening so please let's stick on topic and post these comments in the other threads instead.

xox

...Please do NOT turn this into a micro vs indy thread, or personal comments towards me or other indys about rates. This is not a thread about rates at all...
 

BJhunter

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katlynn's right

hey dudes, let's get the thread back on track why guys see SP w/ low rates!

Either that, or some good old cocksucking!:p
 

Purrr VertIcal

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Katlyn,

You quoted my posting just above, in reference to being 'off-topic'.

I can see that interpretation.
It's two sides of the same Looney.
Why a woman sets prices is similar to why a guy will book that SP.

A guy who will see a 'less-than-Escort' doesn't need/want/care enough to pay for the Quality. And before all of your chirpers squak, yes, we all read through this whole thread how the price does not always reflect quality. It's not a 'hard-slow rule'.
But for the most part, the World Rule of 'you get what you pay for', applies, I would think.

Really what you are asking guys why they have their attitudes
- about money,
- and who/why they would F.

And As I posted earlier, both for meaning and humour,
it's probably the same answer as -
'why do people eat at McDonalds?'
...Cheap, easy, special sauce, no tips, and there's a drive thru. - (?)
(Nevermind it's bad for you).

This thread should be re-named,
'On Golden Poon'.

LoLoL
 

steverino

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Good thread discussion....

A few thoughts:

Katlyn raises the questi0on of quantity versus quality. Many have suggested that there is no relationship between price and quality so the lower price wins. However, the question remains, if you did find the $300 lady better than the $200 lady would you prefer to have 3 experinecs with a less talented provider than 2 with a more talented provider?

Related to that, comparing say $300 to $150 doesn't seem that big a deal compared to when you annualize the investment. If you saw a provider once a week the difference becomes significant (50*150) and in the neighborhood of $7,500.
 

Thais

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But I believe in general that a great deal of the women that price themselves in the stratosphere aren't necessarily willing to work hard on the service end of it. I think for the most part they rely on their looks, get the guy in the door, take the $$$$$ dough, and then are happy to get the session done with asap and go spend their cash.

On the other end, I have found many hot women who price themselves reasonably in order to build a clientelle who will repeat often...these women are building their business.
Interesting. I always thought that a woman who prices herself higher to have less clients does it because:
1. She has a full life outside (student, building her own business, art/non-for-profit career that pays little) and she wants to have the energy and time to pursue it
2. She wants to see fewer clients to put more energy and herself into each session, to be real and genuine, to really deliver on her promises - because she is not tired from too many clients.
The women I am drawn to and have communicated with, fit this rule.

What you are saying, based on your experiences I presume
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, seems to indicate the opposite in regards to point 2... Seeing an observation like this is very interesting and confusing to me. Or perhaps, the confusion could disappear if "reasonable" as opposed to "low" still allows a woman to fulfill the above objectives...

P.S. I am terribly sorry Katlyn if this is a significant off-topic... I can see how it still relates to the main theme (what attributes draw people to or away certain SPs), but I can also see where it departs...
 
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