What a surprise: Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn

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Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn
Homophobia Associated with Penis Arousal to Male on Male Sex

Published on June 9, 2011 by Nathan A. Heflick



Even a man who thought that women want to have sex with their fathers and that women spend much of their lives distraught because they lack a penis is right sometimes. This person, the legend that is Sigmund Freud, theorized that people often have the most hateful and negative attitudes towards things they secretly crave, but feel that they shouldn't have.


If Freud is right, then perhaps men who are the most opposed to male homosexuality have particularly strong homosexual urges for other men.


One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to the male participant's penises. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage).


When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.


Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.


Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts.







Can't say I find this surprising at all!
 

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It certainly explains Republican congressmen and fundamentalist preachers getting caught with their wangs in the wrong holes....and again, not at all surprising.....except to the homophobes.
 

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Here's a blog post from the woman's perspective:

Note that a man who is homophobic/misogynistic won't understand what the writer is saying.
I don't think that is necessarily something from a woman's perspective alone, the reaction described is one pretty much any normal person would have. Do women think that men don't have the same thoughts when they find themselves in those situations?
 

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Do women think that men don't have the same thoughts when they find themselves in those situations?
So men also worry about being raped when they are walking to their car at night? You guys also inspect the back seat and floor when you get in your car to make sure no one's hiding, waiting to assault you? You debate whether or not to open the door to someone you don't know when you're home alone because you're worried about being attacked? Have you also decided it's safer not to bother and get weird looks from people when you explain you've never been comfortable with the risks so you just don't get the door at all for strangers, ever - when you're home alone?

wow I'm really relieved it's not just me or just women who worry about being viewed as and often feeling like the easiest targets because in most cases we're not as physically strong and no match against a violent man. Are you concerned that men are as aware as you are that it would probably be fairly easy to overpower you if they chose to and that while you can't tell whether they will choose to or not, what you do know is that based on your gender alone, your odds are not all that great?


Bullshit.


Yes, what you worry about is something we all worry about as well. Only your odds are better. A lot better. Most situations where you don't think for a second you have to worry because you naturally feel confident about your ability to defend yourself most of the time. It takes a fairly serious situation to make you feel there's danger. A situation that seems benign to you, may not feel that way to me. Instead I'm very aware that my chances of defending myself from an attacker are significantly smaller.

So while you might worry about your safety in some situations, it takes a lot more to trigger that fear and I don't think much of that, if any at all, involves fear of being raped or sexually assaulted. And even if you do occasionally have this fear, it doesn't come with frighteningly high likelihood that you will experience such an attack involving physical and sexual violence, if not this time, then maybe the next. And you probably don't have at least one, but more likely 2 or maybe more friends who've been assaulted to remind you of their experiences or that the only similarity they share is that they occurred in circumstances we find ourselves in regularly, in normal situations that aren't even typically considered dangerous.

So yah, I do think you and I don't have the same thoughts when we find ourselves in certain situations. And I don't even think "those situations" are the same situations for you as "those situations" are for me.


But I'm kind of shocked I'm having to explain this, to be honest.. but anyway.
 

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I don't think that is necessarily something from a woman's perspective alone, the reaction described is one pretty much any normal person would have. Do women think that men don't have the same thoughts when they find themselves in those situations?
Huh? I have put myself in situations frequently that pretty much any women would never consider. Walking alone on streets in third world cities. Walking downtown in Canadian cities very late at night; getting cash from an ATM in downtown Seattle after midnight with various shifty citizens within sight. I have considered the risk of being mugged or robbed a possibility -- I have never considered being raped or murdered as likely.

If I am a approached by a woman (or man) in a bar anywhere in the world, I may suspect that I will be annoyed by drunken conversation, or am being set up for a scam. I am not especially concerned for my personal safety.

The level of risk -- and definitely of perceived risk -- is not even remotely comparable.
 

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So men also worry about being raped when they are walking to their car at night? You guys also inspect the back seat and floor when you get in your car to make sure no one's hiding, waiting to assault you? You debate whether or not to open the door to someone you don't know when you're home alone because you're worried about being attacked? Have you also decided it's safer not to bother and get weird looks from people when you explain you've never been comfortable with the risks so you just don't get the door at all for strangers, ever - when you're home alone?

wow I'm really relieved it's not just me or just women who worry about being viewed as and often feeling like the easiest targets because in most cases we're not as physically strong and no match against a violent man. Are you concerned that men are as aware as you are that it would probably be fairly easy to overpower you if they chose to and that while you can't tell whether they will choose to or not, what you do know is that based on your gender alone, your odds are not all that great?


Bullshit.


Yes, what you worry about is something we all worry about as well. Only your odds are better. A lot better. Most situations where you don't think for a second you have to worry because you naturally feel confident about your ability to defend yourself most of the time. It takes a fairly serious situation to make you feel there's danger. A situation that seems benign to you, may not feel that way to me. Instead I'm very aware that my chances of defending myself from an attacker are significantly smaller.

So while you might worry about your safety in some situations, it takes a lot more to trigger that fear and I don't think much of that, if any at all, involves fear of being raped or sexually assaulted. And even if you do occasionally have this fear, it doesn't come with frighteningly high likelihood that you will experience such an attack involving physical and sexual violence, if not this time, then maybe the next. And you probably don't have at least one, but more likely 2 or maybe more friends who've been assaulted to remind you of their experiences or that the only similarity they share is that they occurred in circumstances we find ourselves in regularly, in normal situations that aren't even typically considered dangerous.

So yah, I do think you and I don't have the same thoughts when we find ourselves in certain situations. And I don't even think "those situations" are the same situations for you as "those situations" are for me.


But I'm kind of shocked I'm having to explain this, to be honest.. but anyway.
Do you think that rape is the only form of assault there is?????

As a woman you are probably not going to be physically attacked "just of the hell of it" or because someone feels like fighting or hitting someone else. So you would have no idea. Men have to be aware of that all the time, it is so ingrained that many probably don't even know they are doing that, especially the larger ones who have less to fear. But, if you are not large, like me, it is something you have to be VERY concious of all the time when around strangers, especially in isolated or social situations.

Men don't have to worry about rape, but on the other hand they are much more likely to be victims of random violent general assault than women. That is something they have to be aware of all the time.
 

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Do you think that rape is the only form of assault there is?????

As a woman you are probably not going to be physically attacked "just of the hell of it" or because someone feels like fighting or hitting someone else. So you would have no idea. Men have to be aware of that all the time, it is so ingrained that many probably don't even know they are doing that, especially the larger ones who have less to fear. But, if you are not large, like me, it is something you have to be VERY concious of all the time when around strangers, especially in isolated or social situations.

Men don't have to worry about rape, but on the other hand they are much more likely to be victims of random violent general assault than women. That is something they have to be aware of all the time.
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. If you think my worries about assault (and I suspect those of any average man) are even close to the average woman's about rape, you are delusional. Do we worry about being assaulted by a new woman we are seeing? Ever? Is this some kind of "men's victimhood" talk or something?

And if you think a bloody nose or broken wrist is in any way comparable to rape, you are again delusional.

Note what Al said in his post "Note that a man who is homophobic/misogynistic won't understand what the writer is saying."
 

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Wouldn't gay men be most aroused by gay porn?

If the subjects designated their sexual orientation as "heterosexual" and are the most aroused, it just means they are denying their sexuality in the first place.
 

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Wouldn't gay men be most aroused by gay porn?

If the subjects designated their sexual orientation as "heterosexual" and are the most aroused, it just means they are denying their sexuality in the first place.
Uh, that was the point. The study used only subjects that self-identified as straight.
 

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You want to say Hi to the cute girl on the subway. How will she react? Fortunately, I can tell you with some certainty, because she’s already sending messages to you. Looking out the window, reading a book, working on a computer, arms folded across chest, body away from you = do not disturb.
Bullshit.

So if you speak to a woman who is otherwise occupied, you’re sending a subtle message. It is that your desire to interact trumps her right to be left alone.
Outright twaddle.
 

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I did a little digging, and the statistic of 1 in 6 women having been sexually assaulted comes from the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault. The site also says that 1 in 7 women have been sexually assaulted by their husband. Math whizzes correct me if I'm wrong, but this means the frequency of a woman being raped by someone other than her husband is (1/6) - (1/7) = 2.3%, or 1 in 42.

So taking the 1 in 60 rapist frequency and multiplying it seven (which is 1 in 6 divided by 1 in 42), that means the frequency of men raping someone other than their wife is 1 in 420.

I'm not dismissing the severity of rape, but I think it's important to get some context here.

If she plays her odds right, Ms. Starling would be better off macing her husband when she gets home rather than a total stranger.
 
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