Way to go Canada!

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11. In the war of 1812, started by America,
>Canadians pushed the Americans back...past their 'White House'. Then we
>burned it...and most of Washington. We got bored because they ran away, so
>we came home and partied...Go figure..
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actually you were still british citizens sucking on the queen mums tits

13. We have the largest English population that
>never ever surrendered or withdrew during any war to anyone. anywhere.
>EVER.

You forgot the little thing called Dieppe
well dittman as usual you are wrong again. nothing has changed eh? you maybe didn't officially surrender but you sure got your ass out of vietnam in a hurry all of a sudden and don't give me that shit about "we pulled out." yeah you pulled out awful quick when the chopper was on the roof of the yank embassy trying to get everyone the fuck out so you wouldn't be killed by the army that you didn't surrender to.

also dittman dieppe wasn't a surrender or a pullout. unfortunately for the men that were there it was a slaughter, due to poor planning by the british generals that were co-ordinating the whole thing. pretty much every brave person that stormed that beach against insurmountable odds was killed or taken prisoner so please don't desicrate their memory. also dieppe wasn't a war, it was a battle during the war that eventually was won.
 

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actually culeon you are kind of wrong. although the generals of the battles of 1812 were brits the majority of the armies fighting in that war were first nations canadians, expelled americans from after the civil war, as well as native born canadians. all the members of butlers rangers which were kind of like a guerilla strike force were not born nor set foot on the u.k. and they were an intregral part of that war.

you are wrong on 13 as well but i don't feel like getting into it.
smackyo... The ones who took over the White House were British. You Canadians (Both Quebecois and English Canadians) did drive the Americans out of Canada, but when it came to battling the Americans in the sea as well as inside the States were the British. Besides, wasn't Canada under British rule at the time?

On # 13, what other actions or war did Canada took part besides WWII?

Enlighten me.
 

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well dittman as usual you are wrong again. nothing has changed eh? you maybe didn't officially surrender but you sure got your ass out of vietnam in a hurry all of a sudden and don't give me that shit about "we pulled out." yeah you pulled out awful quick when the chopper was on the roof of the yank embassy trying to get everyone the fuck out so you wouldn't be killed by the army that you didn't surrender to.

as usuall for a know nothing nobody who cant argue the facts they try to change the topic of discussion. I did not mention viet nam nor did i mention the u.s armed forces. Your right Dieppe was a disasterous slaughterhouse. But not everyone died and a few did surrender.

smackyo... The ones who took over the White House were British. You Canadians (Both Quebecois and English Canadians) did drive the Americans out of Canada, but when it came to battling the Americans in the sea as well as inside the States were the British. Besides, wasn't Canada under British rule at the time?

hell you canadiens were still sucking on the queen mums tit till when? 1975
 

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well dittman as usual you are wrong again. nothing has changed eh? you maybe didn't officially surrender but you sure got your ass out of vietnam in a hurry all of a sudden and don't give me that shit about "we pulled out." yeah you pulled out awful quick when the chopper was on the roof of the yank embassy trying to get everyone the fuck out so you wouldn't be killed by the army that you didn't surrender to.

as usuall for a know nothing nobody who cant argue the facts they try to change the topic of discussion. I did not mention viet nam nor did i mention the u.s armed forces. Your right Dieppe was a disasterous slaughterhouse. But not everyone died and a few did surrender.

smackyo... The ones who took over the White House were British. You Canadians (Both Quebecois and English Canadians) did drive the Americans out of Canada, but when it came to battling the Americans in the sea as well as inside the States were the British. Besides, wasn't Canada under British rule at the time?

hell you canadiens were still sucking on the queen mums tit till when? 1975

Actually Canada started to become an autonomous country in the mid-1800's.
They sent their own troops during WWII separate from the British. However, Canada has not been invaded since the war of 1812. The main reason they were invaded is because at the time it was British territory while us, Brits, had been in plenty of wars, been bombed (Napoleon, Hitler, etc...) and through all that time, we never surrendered.
 

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culeon said:
On # 13, what other actions or war did Canada took part besides WWII?

Enlighten me.
Let's See, hmmm

While we were still a British colony Canadians participated in most of Britains wars. Lt Hamilton who recieved a Victoria Cross for his actins in the "Charge of the Light Brigade was born in what is now Toronto. That would be the Crimean War for you World History challenged Americans.

Canadians formed their own units and fought in the Boer war in South Africa

Canada fought under it's own banner in WW1, where they were considered the shock troops of the British Empire forces. Vimy Ridge is considered by many to be the birthplace of modern Canada standing as an equal partner in the Commonwealth.

WWII, we were there at the beginning, in both European and Pacific theaters. Canadian troops were among the first to be overun by Japanese in Hong Kong and many fought in the long brutal campaign in Burma.

Korea, where the Canadians never surrendered ground or lost a battle. 2 PPCLI still wear the "Blue Bathtub" for their actions at Kap Yong. That would be the US Presidential Citation.

Canadian units participated in both Gulf Wars and Kosovo and are still involved on the War on Terror and in Afganistan.

During the Iraq war, Canadian Naval untis were escorting US naval units into out of the Arabian gulf.

So culeon, consider yourself enlightened. I would really hate for anyone to continue to make a complete ass of himself due to ignorance.

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WWII only my ass.

Who won at Vimy Ridge when nobody else could?

BTW Canadians were also present in Korea. More recently, Canadian units fouht in Gulf War #1, and Bosnia (which may as well have been a war).

Canadian military members also fought (and continue to fight) in GW#2, as "exchange" members of fighting units of other countries.

Then there's our presence in Afghanistan. We've been there a fair while, we're there now, and will be sending more troops shortly.

We're also sending a bunch of our navy to help save New Orleans, despite getting fucked over by the Yanks on softwood lumber, and other NAFTA type issues. Hell, they'd probaby charge us taxes on the boatloads of lumber that we've offered them FOR FREE to help rebuild.

Signed,

Just Another Fucking Colonial.
God Save the Queen
 

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Enough!!!

Boys!!! Enough!!

Come on, were we allies in WW II? Of course and still are. Give honour to our dead soldiers instead of bickering who's who and who was in it. The fact is all of us were involved in helping the cause to win the war. All of the countries lost loved ones. Honour one another here and thank them for their help.
 

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This is not to be taken seriously

The Bostonian said:
Sorry She Devil,

Krispy Kreme Doughnuts beats Tim Hortons and Dunkin Doughnuts. At my Vancouver office, Krispy Kreme doughnuts are gone right away, but when Tim Horton's doughnuts are there, it'll be sitting there for hours.

I have never tried Krispy Kreme.I am hopelessley addicted to Tim Hoton's coffee. I am not a fan of freeze dried product. The idea of Krispy Kreme sounds great. I posted this as a joke and for entertainment only.

You should never take a joke so seriously... ;)

I should have added to it, but I left it. I posted how it was sent to me....
 

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Sorry She Devil,

I did not know it was a joke, I thought it was another typical small gratuitous attack on the States.
I’ve lived in Canada most of my life and have heard a lot of crap from Canadians and Americans.
I can be defensive especially being an American living in Canada most of my life. Just imagine all the stuff
I hear from the Maritimes, to Central Canada to the West coast. Sometimes I play referee between my American and Canadian friends.
It’s just plain competition from all sides-believe me I've heard it all from Russians to Jamiacans. Everyone wants to say that their country is the best, best place to live, and what their country has achieved.
 

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The Bostonian said:
Boys!!! Enough!!

Come on, were we allies in WW II? Of course and still are. Give honour to our dead soldiers instead of bickering who's who and who was in it. The fact is all of us were involved in helping the cause to win the war. All of the countries lost loved ones. Honour one another here and thank them for their help.
when people stop making light of canadian particpation and acheivments then maybe the bickering will cease. also culeon its worse coming from you. your a brit your supposed to know better. oh let me guess you support tony blair???
 

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Is not Canada one of the best places to live?

The Bostonian said:
Sorry She Devil,

I did not know it was a joke, I thought it was another typical small gratuitous attack on the States.
I’ve lived in Canada most of my life and have heard a lot of crap from Canadians and Americans.
I can be defensive especially being an American living in Canada most of my life. Just imagine all the stuff
I hear from the Maritimes, to Central Canada to the West coast. Sometimes I play referee between my American and Canadian friends.
It’s just plain competition from all sides-believe me I've heard it all from Russians to Jamiacans. Everyone wants to say that their country is the best, best place to live, and what their country has achieved.

According to the UN. I am not sure if we made it again this year. In 1999 for the Pan-Am games, look how many 'defected'. Anyone have any follow up info on this? I heard that one of the Weightlifters defected and well, the outcome?

If I was going to attack Americans, I would properly research and carefully plan the 'attack' so to speak. Another time, not here. :mad: This really doensn't have to much with 'Amercicans' but the 'Bush' administration.IMHO

I do have a lot to say on the subject of Canada and the US. I leave it unsaid and passive. I know that a lot of it is not 'true' per say. I do know a considerable amount of Canadian history.

Again the best thing about the 'board' is this: OPINION. ;)

What is goose, is good for the gander kay? :confused:

No offence taken, should have clarified. Anybody watch Rick Mercer's Monday report on the CBC? A F@#$ing riot. This hour has 22 minutes?

Let's not forget The Trailer Park Boys...A fine summary of what it is to be 'Canadian'. :D

"If I can't smoke and swear...I'm F@#$ed!"---Ricky :p

"I'm afraid of Americans, I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't.

God is an American..." -'I'm afraid of Americans' David Bowie featuring Trent Reznor (NIN).
 
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when people stop making light of canadian particpation and acheivments then maybe the bickering will cease. also culeon its worse coming from you. your a brit your supposed to know better. oh let me guess you support tony blair???
Let me guess... you support Paul Martin????
 

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shedevil said:
> SO, WHAT DO CANADIANS HAVE TO BE PROUD OF?
> 25. And we don't bomb our allies.
> Pass this on if you are proud to be Canadian!!!
> I AM CANADIAN!!!

"Canadian warships to sail to Louisiana"

Actually, to take issue w/ #25, one well placed shot at a certain hi-level plane that keeps going back to the Gulf & screwing up what little passes for "relief" might help the US out quite a bit on a lot of fronts.... Maybe when he's ferrying a bunch of other right wing draft dodgers around to a Texas Rangers game or something during his next 8 week vacation from "work".

Not that I would ever advocate violence of any sort, just pondering the effects of retroactive abortion on deformed fetuses. ;)

but seriously folks, the major rankings of "best cities in the world to live" consistently rank Vancouver (usually ranked #2), Toronto, and Montreal in the top ten year after year -- that's in the WORLD. And Calgary usuallys breaks the top 20.

No US city ever gets into the top 20 on these lists -- few services, and too many idiotic right wing religious nuts with guns who can't seem to save their own citizens when a crisis hits, or they don't really care to.

:cool:

http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html
http://store.eiu.com/index.asp?layout=pr_story&press_id=540000654
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/03/1046540131333.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/04/world.cities/
http://www.asiatraveltips.com/travelnews2002/910Melbourne.shtml
http://www.ired.com/news/mkt/can-topcities.htm
http://www.finfacts.com/qualityoflife.htm


"WASHINGTON -- The United States is "the most violent and self-destructive nation on earth," a congressional report said Tuesday.
..."In 1990, the United States led the world with its murder, rape and robbery rates," the report said. "When viewed from the national perspective, these crime rates are sobering. When viewed from the international perspective, they are truly embarrassing."
The report noted that the murder rate in the United States was more than twice that of Northern Ireland, which is torn by civil war; four times that of Italy; nine times England's and 11 times Japan's. Violence against women in America was even more pervasive, the committee said. The rape rate in the United States was eight times higher than in France, 15 times higher than in England, 23 times higher than in Italy and 26 times higher than in Japan...
...based on raw FBI data and preliminary statistics for last year, based its comparisons on Justice Department statistics for industrialized nations. Crime reporting standards vary in those countries, and crime rates for less-developed Third World nations generally are either unavailable or unreliable. But the report made clear that violence in the United States has no equal among the world's developed nations. Nor did 1990 have a modern equal for violence in America "
By Tim Weiner, San Jose Mercury News

"Unconstrained by any superpower rival or system of global governance, the US giant has rewritten the global financial and trading system in its own interest; ripped up a string of treaties it finds inconvenient; sent troops to every corner of the globe; bombed Afghanistan, Sudan, Yugoslavia and Iraq without troubling the United Nations; maintained a string of murderous embargos against recalcitrant regimes; and recklessly thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year illegal military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian intifada rages."
"They can't see why they are hated"
article in The Guardian. Seumas Milne.
Thursday September 13, 2001

Foreign Aid: USA is stingiest of the 22 most developed countries6
The USA claims to be, in absolute terms, the world's biggest giver and this is true. However, as a proportion of it's wealth the USA gives least when compared to all 22 of the worlds' most developed countries.

International discord and contempt of the UN (click for full page on this)
"The USA has broken the UN Security Council, leading to it's decreased importance and effectiveness, largely over Israel that the USA supports under any circumstances, vetoing even the smallest and most reasonable measures against Israel's illegal occupations. The reasons for the USA's behaviour is beyond me, some say it is religiously motivated, commercially motivated or simply due to habit. The USA abuses the UN more than any other country, constantly trying to bribe and buy influence, yet is notorious for owing most to the UN, despite the USA's heavy use of it, and wealth. This intolerable attitude towards world consensus causes hatred of the USA at the highest levels in all countries in the world, except Israel, which is perhaps the USA's sole benefactor.
 

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wildonion said:
"WASHINGTON -- The United States is "the most violent and self-destructive nation on earth," a congressional report said Tuesday.
..."In 1990, the United States led the world with its murder, rape and robbery rates," the report said. "When viewed from the national perspective, these crime rates are sobering. When viewed from the international perspective, they are truly embarrassing."
The report noted that the murder rate in the United States was more than twice that of Northern Ireland, which is torn by civil war; four times that of Italy; nine times England's and 11 times Japan's. Violence against women in America was even more pervasive, the committee said. The rape rate in the United States was eight times higher than in France, 15 times higher than in England, 23 times higher than in Italy and 26 times higher than in Japan...
...based on raw FBI data and preliminary statistics for last year, based its comparisons on Justice Department statistics for industrialized nations. Crime reporting standards vary in those countries, and crime rates for less-developed Third World nations generally are either unavailable or unreliable. But the report made clear that violence in the United States has no equal among the world's developed nations. Nor did 1990 have a modern equal for violence in America "
and now you know why we own guns. With all of the money we have spent on law enforcement, with all of the criminals that have been locked away, we are still a high crime country. The first line of defence against crime is a gun. Now we see what happens when a total breakdown occurs, like N.O.

One can not count on the local police to defend you in a crises. You know the miliray will arrive 3 days late. So you need enough supplies to sustain yourself for a week and enough in the way of defence to stop anyone who is bent on taking it from you.
 

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No US city ever gets into the top 20 on these lists -- few services, and too many idiotic right wing religious nuts with guns who can't seem to save their own citizens when a crisis hits, or they don't really care to.

:cool:


Good to know. I will make a note of it. :cool:
 

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shedevil said:
No US city ever gets into the top 20 on these lists -- few services, and too many idiotic right wing religious nuts with guns who can't seem to save their own citizens when a crisis hits, or they don't really care to.

:cool:


Good to know. I will make a note of it. :cool:

US cities have infant mortality rates on a par with the 3rd world in Africa, & that's not even considering what happens when these right wing nuts screw up in a crisis like New Orleans

Estimate of 10,000 dead & counting, while Bush argues over organizational charts.
 

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LMAO thats good wildonion but it shows you how silly and stupid a liberal mind works. Only thinking one step ahead. A good conservative would be thinking 5 or 6 steps ahead. after they recovered the body next in line to be president VP dick cheny (commonly referred to as the prince of darkness)takes the oath of office and orders the airforce and navy to knock canada back to the dark ages, and afterwords no aid for recovery.
 

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Just curious here. Many people speak out and slag the Sea King. Ever flown the Sea King? Have actual knowledge (not media influenced hysteria) regarding the airworthiness of the aircraft?

They're old. They new replacing. They are maintenance intensive. The crews have a badge the reads something like "Flying yesterday's aircraft to do the job of today, tmorrow, and the next decade".

The crews would not fly them if they didn't have a shit pile of confidence that the thing would be back on the deck in one piece.

By the way, the aircraft which has been purchased withthe intent of replaing the Sea King. A new, vastly improved machine from the same company that built them in the first place, and a direct descendant of the Sea King.

They should have been replaced ten years ago (Cretien's fault there). But they do work, they are airworthy when tey leave the deck, and the folks who maintain and fly them are first rate.
 
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