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Tragic & Heartbreaking: Vancouver Teen Kills Herself

violetblake

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I wouldn't usually post something like this on this forum, but this story has just got me so angry. This girl killed herself, because a man posted a topless picture of her online, harassed her for years, classmates at several schools throughout the Lower Mainland bullied her, isolated her, and physically assaulted her.

All because of what?? She flashed somebody online when she was in Grade 7?? She was put through all those years of bullying and harassment cause of that??? And now she killed herself. And although I wished she could've hung on, you can never know how hard things are for somebody until you're in that exact spot yourself.

I just can't even begin to express how angry I am at all those people who did this to her. Slut-shaming women is so engrained into our society, this sort of thing is not a rare occurrence. And now a life is lost cause of what? Fucking nothing, she did NOTHING to deserve this. Nobody deserves this.

This is a heartbreaking video she recorded a few weeks before her death that tells her story:


The mother of a teenager who died Wednesday of suspected suicide wants her daughter’s anti-cyber-bullying video to be used to help other young people.

Fifteen-year-old Amanda Todd was found dead in a Port Coquitlam home at 6 p.m. Wednesday, five weeks after she posted a heartbreaking video on YouTube about her own experience with online harassment and bullying.

“I think the video should be shared and used as an anti-bullying tool. That is what my daughter would have wanted,” Carol Todd, Amanda’s mother, told The Vancouver Sun in a message on Twitter.

In September, Amanda posted a video to YouTube entitled My Story: Struggling, bullying, suicide and self harm.

In it Amanda does not speak, but instead holds up to the camera pieces of paper on which she has printed her story, one phrase at a time. She documented a painful tale of being harassed online and being shunned at school, leaving her feeling alone and suicidal.

Near the end of the video, she writes: “Every day I think why am I still here? ... I have nobody. I need someone.”

Click here to see more photos of Amanda Todd

In a message accompanying the video post, Amanda added: “I’m not doing this (video) for attention. I’m doing this to be an inspiration and to show that I can be strong.”

Students and staff at Amanda’s school were grieving her death Thursday.

“It is a very sad case,” said Paul McNaughton, principal of CABE (Coquitlam Alternate Basic Education), where Amanda was in Grade 10.

“She was quite connected here. The staff and the students here are very much impacted. She had some very strong ties in the school and to staff in the school.

“I can tell you we feel we tried everything we could to help her when she came to us.”

Premier Christy Clark posted a short video on YouTube Thursday sending her sympathies to Amanda’s family.

“I want to say to everyone who loved her, to all her family and friends, how sorry I am about her loss,” Clark — who spearheaded an anti-bullying campaign while she was a radio host — says in the video.

“No one deserves to be bullied. No one earns it. No one asks for it. It isn’t a rite of passage. Bullying has to stop.”

Amanda, a former cheerleader with the Vancouver All Stars squad based in Coquitlam, attended school in Maple Ridge from January 2011 to February 2012, when she transferred to CABE in Coquitlam.

In her video, Amanda says she moved schools in a futile attempt to escape her bullies.

Spokeswomen for the Maple Ridge and Coquitlam school districts would not discuss the case directly, but both said their districts take action when they receive bullying complaints.

Grief counsellors were speaking to students in both districts Thursday.

Dr. Tyler Black, a child and adolescent psychiatrist at B.C. Children’s Hospital, said the reasons people commit suicide are often very complex. He urged parents, educators and youth at risk of suicide to realize there is help through options such as www.youthinbc.com or 1-800-SUICIDE.

“The message is there are professionals there, there are people out there who can help,” he said.

On a positive note, Black added, suicide among youth aged 10 to 24 dropped 25 per cent from 2000 to 2009.

McNaughton, the principal of CABE, said the family doesn’t want to speak to the media. “We’re respecting their wishes,” he said.

Amanda joined YouTube on Sept. 6 and posted her video Sept. 7.

On Sept. 7, Amanda also uploaded a slide-show presentation called Cyber Bullying on Prezi.com, in which she gives advice on how to deal with such harassment.

In what could turn out to be her own very sad legacy, Amanda urged people to stand up to bullies and to help the victims:

“If you see that someone is being bullied, don’t be afraid to tell the bully to stop doing what they are doing. Make sure to tell them that it’s wrong and that they shouldn’t bully other kids.”

Amanda told parents “to always give your child emotional support” and to help them if they are being bullied.

B.C.’s education ministry announced last month that it will spend $2 million on a strategy called ERASE Bullying. The strategy includes a confidential online bullying reporting service that will allow students, school staff, parents and members of the public to make anonymous reports about potential or actual cases of school bullying and violence.

The Amanda Michelle Todd memorial Facebook page, created Wednesday morning, had more than 11,000 people “liking it” by early evening. Hundreds of people were also posting comments on the site.

“My thoughts and prayers go to her family, I cannot even begin to imagine what they are going through. High school is supposed to be the best time of your life, not one where you fear for yourself every day. No one should have to feel the way she did,” wrote Breanna Lockhart Collins. “She was a beautiful young girl who went way too soon.”

In a post on its Facebook page, G Force Gym — home of the Vancouver All Stars cheerleaders — wrote:

“Today we feel the loss of our former VAS family member Amanda ... I ask that we all watch her video and share her story so that her loss is not in vain. Allow this to be her legacy ... Allow us all to look around & find the next Amanda before another precious spunky teenager is lost.”

Amanda’s video echoed another similar online story entitled My Story: Suicide and Bullying, which had been uploaded by Mollydoyle18 on YouTube.

Commenting on Amanda’s video, Molly posted Wednesday:

“Rest in peace and fly high to Amanda Todd. I was just messaging her about almost a week ago, and I just found out that she has taken her life. She was asking me about how to be an inspiration to others and to get her video more views, and now I have found out that she has passed away ... This is a terrible tragedy. I wish she could have had her happy ending



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I wouldn't usually post something like this on this forum, but this story has just got me so angry. This girl killed herself, because a man posted a topless picture of her online, harassed her for years, classmates at several schools throughout the Lower Mainland bullied her, isolated her, and physically assaulted her.

All because of what?? She flashed somebody online when she was in Grade 7?? She was put through all those years of bullying and harassment cause of that??? And now she killed herself. And although I wished she could've hung on, you can never know how hard things are for somebody until you're in that exact spot yourself.

I just can't even begin to express how angry I am at all those people who did this to her. Slut-shaming women is so engrained into our society, this sort of thing is not a rare occurrence. And now a life is lost cause of what? Fucking nothing, she did NOTHING to deserve this. Nobody deserves this.
I can totally understand your anger. The callousness and insensitivity that some people can have in this world can be so numbing to the point where I have given up trying to understand. I tried reading the article on her earlier in the day but I had to stop half way through because it was just too heart-wrenching!

I mean really WTF is wrong with people these days? Is it so really hard to be decent? Why is there such a need to tear someone down? What do people get out of this?
 

Miss*Bijou

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Wow that is so sad. I Just wanted to hug her while watching that video. Such a waste. Really, really sad.

I wonder why the police didn't do anything about the guy who was basically guilty of producing and distributing child porn....

The internet made it possible for those kids to Just keep on bullying her even though she'd moved to get away. She must have felt like she would never be able to get away from it. It's really sad. Death is sad but suicide is somehow even more tragic because of how unhappy the person must have been to take their own life.

Very sad. Such a waste. Makes me angry too, violet. :( but thanks for posting it.
 

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I just watched Amanda's Youtube video after reading about her suicide on the news...Truly, Truly, Heartbreaking...

What a shame...

My first thoughts were... how creative and personal and full of life her video was... to communicate to people her own personal feelings about the downward spiral her young life took after what happened in the last 2 or 3 years of her very short life.

I am sure that after word got out to her peers after a video chat session she did with friends when she was only what...12 or 13 years old?...she was probably branded a slut...a title that does not get you much respect...especially in grade school...

What a shame that she did not have an adult or an older sibling or friend who could tell her that in 3 to 5 years...none of this will matter anymore...

Most of us have experienced bullying to some degree growing up...granted, hers was a more serious case, but the majority of us get through it...and hopefully learn and become stronger people because of it...all experiences, good or bad, shape us and ideally make us more complete individuals.

Yet, I am afraid there is a small percentage who do not have the support of Family, Friends, or adult role models (be it a neighbour, teacher, coach, employer) who can put things into perspective, and all too often, it ends badly.

Parents, Teachers, Neighbours, Friends, Coaches...everyone should be aware of this to try to prevent another teen suicide...I am sure most of you out there have either had these experiences, known someone, or just had emotional troubles at one time or another when you were in your young teens.

Unfortunately...it doesn't always work out OK...

The world will miss you Amanda...
 

chuckanut

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currently in nyc, but my fb is blowing up about this. very sad.

-chuck
**retired**
 

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I dunno, reading what was stuff and the video she post on YouTube, really got me thinking about what happened to me back when I was in highschool. I was bullied physically, verbally and emotionally. It was tough, like I did contemplate suicide and grew very isolated. Fortunately, I had people who did care and stick their morals.

It is really sad nowadays that with social media how much more dangerous bullying had become. There is nowhere to hid, no place to be free of the shackles of our past or our tormentors. Sure you can tell an adult, but what can they do? Their authority only extends to the school grounds and most kids know they can get away with almost anything and the teachers are powerless to stop them.

Honestly, I wish there was more that could of been done for Amanda Todd, the system failed her, the school failed her, her parents failed her. There can really be a couple of solutions to prevent theses types of situation from happening again, though I don't foreseeing it happening since teachers mostly see students as a number unless you are very smart or a trouble maker, and we can't prosecute minors to the point where it would make others think before they react.
 

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Yah I was thinking too about the Phoebe story from the US, and in other aspects, Rena Virk's tragic story too when I read about this girl.

This is another one of those news stories that makes me quite angry, and in instances like this (and the riots), I'd much prefer a style of frontier (or middle ages) justice dished out on the offenders. Not death, but I'm very much in favour of public shaming (as in an eye for an eye). The problem with bullies is that often, they feel they can act with impunity. Society needs to 180 that.
 

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I find it to be a sad story but where were the parents? Why was she allowed to video chat with strangers in grade 7? How or why was she in a situation where she could flash her breasts at the age of 13? Why wasn't the situation taken more seriously after her initial threats/attempts? Someone, somewhere along the line failed this girl - be it her parents, the police, doctors, "the system" - I don't know. But it's sad.
I agree. It starts with the parents. I only watched the first minute of the video. As a father of a couple of girls, that sort of thing really breaks my heart.
 

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Kids at that age do need their internet monitored somewhat. Parents need to know where they are going on the net and have discussions about what is appropriate and what people will think about them from their online behaviour.

The young girl flashing her breasts on the internet unfortunately is not uncommon. Unwise thing to do for sure because once its on the net it is out there and you can not bring it back. Perhaps if she had gone quiet about it and let it go things may have been different. It's pure speculation.

What about all the bully's posting their nasty comments on the page in question? Where were their parents? Seriously, having a family member post something as horrible as what they posted would really bother me and make me question that family member's mental stability. Are we raising a psychopath in our home? Having someone posting hateful, uncaring and taunting comments from behind a computer is the worst kind of bully. Very difficult to call one of them out from behind a screen.
 

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lol....yes you did! Don't worry though, I was on the same page as you. Thanks Melody for pointing it out, it wasn't very easy to understand what he was doing......that or Gonzo and I are IDIOTS :doh:

I knew it was just a matter of time...................nice to see you found a replacement for LAG. :pound: Just a warning Gonzo...........HH can be fickle. :D
 

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Interesting this is about "some people's children" and some Perbite's responses are following the same trend.

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This is a remarkably sad statement on the state of our youth. I will share this with my teenage kids and ensure that Amanda's story will make a difference in their lives. Her plight will not go to waste.

I believe we all have an obligation to help each other - we do this on this board by sharing experiences, positive and negative, about this hobby - but we can also make a difference in the lives of victims of abuse.

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I wonder though about the message that many are teaching, is the message "don't post your breasts on the internet (ie. don't stick out and keep yourself private and lay low)" or is the lesson being taught "live and let live, don't judge others, be accepting"??

I suspect more often sadly the first one is what is being taught first and foremost

For me, it's both. We need to educate children about the dangers (ie. permanency) of posting anything on the Internet. But we also need to educate children on the affects of bullying and what we can do to make a difference.

Ugh!!! This truly makes my heart sick.
 

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after seeing this and similar events that are becoming more common it really pains me to know that my nephews and nieces are going to grow up in
a like environment.
society has become so brash, there is no such thing as a filter or decency anymore. I know its easy to blame the social woes where being an idiot
(jersery shore, kim kardashian ect..) is celebrated and seeing who can be the cruelest person is a badge of honor.
its to bad that its this far gone, when not one person around her can stand up for her.

its so tragic she couldnt hold on just a few years more and hopefully move pass a mistake she made as a child

rip Amanda
 

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I can't help but wonder whether a little intervention from those who had seen the video and knew her would have helped. It may not have been a cry for attention but it was most definitely a cry for help. Another tragic lost for sure.
 

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I watched that video in it's entirety and I cried for this poor girl.

I think they should show this video all over North America so kids can learn the effect their words and deeds have on their peers.

It would also serve as a tribute of sorts.

Kids who are 12-16, mostly just go along with the crowd and are gratefull that they are part of the crowd and not isolated and picked on, teased and ostricized.

That said I have no idea what her dad was doing. If my daughter was being harassed by some guy in that manner and I found out I'd go absolutely ballistic. I guarantee he wouldn't have harassed her twice. That said the mass harassment of whole schools against this poor girl, wouldn't be easy to stop, I guess one would expect the schools to put a stop to it in some manner.
 

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I have pruned this thread of several posts. People please leave off your personal issues here. Your inter personal dramas can be aired in separate threads. I will close this thread if the nonsense continues.
 

Miss*Bijou

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OK I'm hoping I can write this and have it come across the way I mean it. I think that bullying is terrible and I don't think it should be ignored. I dont know if it is somehow worse or getting worse but I do think the internet has somewhat made it easier for bullies to reach their victims and harder for victims to get away from it. So I do think people should be talking about bullying. However a lot of people are bullied and while many of them may at one time or another consider taking their own life, the vast majority never actually go through with it.

And out of all the teens who commit suicide, most probably weren't bullied and do it for completely different reasons. I think it's a convenient way to explain something most of us find hard to understand: why does someone take their own life when they have so much to look forward to?

The truth is that her being bullied obviously did not make matters better for her, and possibly brought her over the edge but this young girl had some issues that were there to start. Cutting and drinking bleach are huge red flags that IMO indicate some far deeper problems than bullying.

So I think it's wrong to ignore that and blame all of it on bullying because it's easier to understand and provides someone /something that can be blamed. Meanwhile there are lots of other teens (or adults) who aren't bullied but still secretly cutting themselves, thinking about suicide and some of them that will go through with it. Ignoring that part as and focusing only on bullying doesn't do anything to address that and help those people while they're suffering alone and before it's too late to help anyone.

I wanted to write that last night but worried it would sound like I'm blaming her, which I'm totally not and I hope that's not how this comes across. I Just think there is something beyond the bullying that people (family, school, etc) failed to recognize - or perhaps they did and even tried to help the best way they knew how, I don't know - and we should also be talking about that and not Just blame bullying only for being responsible. Am I making sense? Lol




Filmgeek, to avoid confusing everyone on perb (apparently it's very easy because people don't read entire posts before they reply lol) you should put comments like that in a Quote bubble (OR whatever it's called ) you can either:

- highlight the text to be included using your mouse, then click the icon (it's got a picture of a Quote) which is on the left hand side at the top of your text.

- Or you can manually add [/Quote] at the end of the text to be quoted and
at the start. ;)
 
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