http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/richard-suter-says-he-was-abducted-beaten-by-men-posing-as-police-1.2931155Richard Suter says he was abducted, beaten by men posing as police
Richard Suter, 64, faces impaired driving charges in 2013 crash that killed 2-year-old Geo Mounsef
CBC News Posted: Jan 25, 2015 12:59 PM MT| Last Updated: Jan 25, 2015 2:26 PM MT
An Edmonton man accused in a drunk driving crash that killed a toddler says he was abducted, beaten and had his thumb cut off by three men posing as police officers.
Richard Suter, 64, said he was at home with his wife Thursday night when he heard pounding on the door. Outside were three men in their 20s, who Suter said were dressed like SWAT officers and appeared to be armed.
“They said, ‘You have to come with us right now. You know what this is about, we’ve been told to bring you in.’”
Suter is on bail, awaiting trial on charges of impaired driving causing death following a May 2013 crash that killed 2-year-old Geo Mounsef.
The little boy was sitting in a restaurant patio in south Edmonton when an SUV suddenly accelerated into the building, pinning the toddler.
Asked if he thought the men targeted him because of the case, Suter said: "I can’t speak to that.”
He said he was handcuffed and taken to a pickup truck. He realized the men were not police officers when they started treating him roughly and put a bag over his head.
The bag was soon replaced with a blindfold. Suter said he was in the truck for about 20 minutes, heading south. The truck then pulled over and he was pulled out and forced to kneel in a snowbank.
“I didn’t know if I was going to get a bullet in the back of my head .. at that point, I thought I was going to get executed.”
Instead, he said the men used two sets of tools to cut off his thumb. He was beaten and left with cuts and bruises to his face.
“I don’t remember getting beaten, I probably passed out,” he said. “Next thing I know, I woke up on the side of the road.”
The men were gone by the time he regained consciousness. Suter flagged down a passing motorist, who called 911.
Edmonton police have confirmed they are investigating the abduction, but said they have no suspects at this time.
Suter was released from hospital Saturday afternoon. He said his wife was attacked and assaulted last year. He's worried the men may return if police don’t track them down.
“I just hope they catch these guys … whatever it was about, I hope it has satisfied whatever needs it was meant for,” he said.
“Who gets a thumb cut off these days?”
Sage Morin, the mother of Geo Mounsef, condemned the attack Saturday. She said her son’s memory should not be associated with violence.
"Justice for Geo will not come in the form of violence. Our family remains hopeful and entrusting of the legal system to bring Justice for Geo,” she wrote in a Facebook post.
“We have tried our very best to use Geo's memory as an inspiration to do positive things for our community, to lend love, compassion and understanding to our fellow mankind, and to try make this world a better place, one small act of kindness at a time.”
Suter’s trial on the impaired driving charges is set to begin in October.
thought i'd stir up some drama...
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I'm new here.......So I'll take it easy, and show some restraint.
Sometimes citizens shouldn't take the law into their own hands.....
Sometimes a fella shouldn't drink and drive....
Sometimes...You shouldn't harm a mans family..there may be consequences.
In the West there is a unwritten law....Never touch a mans fence, Never touch a mans livestock,...and under no circumstances, touch ot otherwise harm a member of a mans family.
If you break these laws, he may seek justice,...if you break the last law, He has no choice but to unleash his own hell upon you.
Sometimes citizens shouldn't take the law into their own hands.....
Sometimes a fella shouldn't drink and drive....
Sometimes...You shouldn't harm a mans family..there may be consequences.
In the West there is a unwritten law....Never touch a mans fence, Never touch a mans livestock,...and under no circumstances, touch ot otherwise harm a member of a mans family.
If you break these laws, he may seek justice,...if you break the last law, He has no choice but to unleash his own hell upon you.
He is ALLEGED to have killed a kid while driving drunk. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law - and is fully entitled to have that trial to determine what happened and the extent of his guilt. ANYTHING else is mob rule and injustice. Period.
For both the man AND QUITE POSSIBLY HIS WIFE (who had nothing whatsoever to do personally with whatever happened to the child) to be attacked and injured -- when the man has in fact been duly charged and is awaiting trial in the normal course of proper process -- is completely inexcusable. There isn't even the shadow of an excuse that "well otherwise he has escaped justice entirely because he has never even been investigated/charged by the police"...
So you go to your favorite escort agency, pay your fee and are enjoying the pleasure of a lovely lady. Two large men barge in and beat the crap out of you. When asked why they took the action they respond as follows. "there are laws against paying ladies for sex and the police have been ignoring them. Someone has to see justice served. Beyond that you are taking advantage of vulnerable young ladies and we see this as the equivalent of rape."
We all know there are boards where people are clapping and proclaiming as Angela Arouses and others did in the other circumstance that you" got your just desserts."
We all know there are boards where people are clapping and proclaiming as Angela Arouses and others did in the other circumstance that you" got your just desserts."
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Well said steverino. Just one of innumerable scenarios.
Yup. a violent response to every perceived injustice. We get how you roll AA.
And to you syb, CJ and ww- and in no way do I condone drinking and driving when I say this- but unless you want to proclaim with complete truthfulness that you have NEVER had a drink and then gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle you should just STFU. Be thankful that you haven't caused grief and misery because of "just a beer or two".
It was a terrible thing that happened. A child's death somehow seems even more tragic in this circumstance. Justice will most likely prevail.
Yup. a violent response to every perceived injustice. We get how you roll AA.
And to you syb, CJ and ww- and in no way do I condone drinking and driving when I say this- but unless you want to proclaim with complete truthfulness that you have NEVER had a drink and then gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle you should just STFU. Be thankful that you haven't caused grief and misery because of "just a beer or two".
It was a terrible thing that happened. A child's death somehow seems even more tragic in this circumstance. Justice will most likely prevail.
We all know the police are perfect right and would never charge or have a innocent person in jail right? 
There is a reason we have a justice system, it's not perfect but it's better than vigilantes walking around doing what they think is right.
There is a reason we have a justice system, it's not perfect but it's better than vigilantes walking around doing what they think is right.
Or there is the case of Mark Walhlberg who admits he was a racist punk in his teens but now wants a pardon for his crimes. Should he be excused because he says he isn't the same person he was at 16?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30425288
I have one thing I will accept out side the law..and that is a families right to believe they have to exact revenge or retribution on some one that has a killed or attached one of their own.
But only the family has that right .if they feel they can handle the consequences ..of being judge under the law that they choone to bypass.
No one else has the right to act on their behalf except the judicial system..
But only the family has that right .if they feel they can handle the consequences ..of being judge under the law that they choone to bypass.
No one else has the right to act on their behalf except the judicial system..
To DDcanz ...I live with the fact every day that I've taken many lives, and yes they had long black beards and wore sheets.That was an act of War and I was in the middle of it "Over There"........Justifying it doesn't help in the middle of my weekly nightmare routine.
I never pulled a trigger, tracked a Taliban, or drove a vehicle when drinking.
Yes I've driven with a couple under my belt, but I can honestly say I've NOT driven when I know I've had to many.
When you drive under the influence, you put the keys in the ignition knowing your breaking the law, you may get caught, or you may harm someone, or even someone you know.
When someone is so drunk they run into a building, killing someone...Common sense tells me that there will be consequences....Common sense also tells me that it may not be his first time and most likley, not his last.
I've personally run a military vehicle into the side of a building. Now bear in mind it wasn't canadian structure building code...It was more of an Afgahnistan pile of reclaimed material stuck together with mortar and chewing gum..But what stands out in my memory was the amount of speed and force it took to blow thru one wall...Now we where trying to kill everybody inside...But a dude has to be pretty drunk to not notice a building full of people, not apply the brakes....and kill a little boy.
Oh and a friendly note...Due to my size and temperment...Most don't tell me to STFU....But good for you!
I'll try to take your advice into consideration.....But not today.
I never pulled a trigger, tracked a Taliban, or drove a vehicle when drinking.
Yes I've driven with a couple under my belt, but I can honestly say I've NOT driven when I know I've had to many.
When you drive under the influence, you put the keys in the ignition knowing your breaking the law, you may get caught, or you may harm someone, or even someone you know.
When someone is so drunk they run into a building, killing someone...Common sense tells me that there will be consequences....Common sense also tells me that it may not be his first time and most likley, not his last.
I've personally run a military vehicle into the side of a building. Now bear in mind it wasn't canadian structure building code...It was more of an Afgahnistan pile of reclaimed material stuck together with mortar and chewing gum..But what stands out in my memory was the amount of speed and force it took to blow thru one wall...Now we where trying to kill everybody inside...But a dude has to be pretty drunk to not notice a building full of people, not apply the brakes....and kill a little boy.
Oh and a friendly note...Due to my size and temperment...Most don't tell me to STFU....But good for you!
I'll try to take your advice into consideration.....But not today.
Thanks for the candid post, Syb. I will believe you when you say you haven't driven when knowingly over the edge. I also believe you when you speak of your own personal nightmares. Why shouldn't I? And your comments about common sense are quite valid. If a guy piles into a building he more than likely has a history of impaired driving.
I just don't happen to subscribe to vigilante-style justice.
And also on a friendly note... one's size and temperament generally don't dissuade me from stating a point. Not that it makes a difference, but I too am of a certain "size" with my own history.
Ok DDcanz....Well noted, lets just look each other in the eye , shake hands and carry on.
When two big dudes are in the same room, it's sometimes healthier for the both of them to buy one another a drink, and trade stories, than to challenge each other to an arm wrestle.
Oh!!...And thanks for seeing my point of view....Normally I'm a law abiding citizen, and I suppose my "Real" frustration is with Lawyers who argue how the suspect was arrested, or his past traumas, and someplace in the far fading light of justice, the little innocent child and their life is forgotten.
I'm not saying vigilantism should happen on a regular basis, if at all....I suppose i'm saying that I understand the families frustration with the legal process, and the probable "Light" outcome of the trial that will eventually happen.
Cutting off a dudes fingers may be going a little far in some cases...In others not so much.
I think one may have to walk in both sets of both parties boots to truly understand.
Wanna get a beer sometime?
When two big dudes are in the same room, it's sometimes healthier for the both of them to buy one another a drink, and trade stories, than to challenge each other to an arm wrestle.
Oh!!...And thanks for seeing my point of view....Normally I'm a law abiding citizen, and I suppose my "Real" frustration is with Lawyers who argue how the suspect was arrested, or his past traumas, and someplace in the far fading light of justice, the little innocent child and their life is forgotten.
I'm not saying vigilantism should happen on a regular basis, if at all....I suppose i'm saying that I understand the families frustration with the legal process, and the probable "Light" outcome of the trial that will eventually happen.
Cutting off a dudes fingers may be going a little far in some cases...In others not so much.
I think one may have to walk in both sets of both parties boots to truly understand.
Wanna get a beer sometime?
how many votes did BadgerJohn lose by?Proof positive that vancity_cowboy is perb's reigning drama queen.
just quality drama, quantity didn't count as high?
posting in every thread out there isn't going to win it?
We are waiting for The Real Sonny Burnett to comfirm vcc's status as queen.how many votes did BadgerJohn lose by?
just quality drama, quantity didn't count as high?
posting in every thread out there isn't going to win it?
You don't have to wait for Sonny to confirm vcc as a Queen......We are waiting for The Real Sonny Burnett to comfirm vcc's status as queen.
Oh hell No, it will be 3 men, and after the beating they will clip off a NUT or 2...
You are a sex offender, after all, it's the ONLY way you're gonna learn!
So yeah, I'll be packing at the parlour... Finally... we get to arm ourselves for a good reason!!
Thanks Petey/Stevie wonder, for the "Blaze-o-glory scenario" bucket list fulfillment potential... Waaaay better to take out some Vigilantes than some random public servant.
Ha ha talk about unintended consequences - "careful whatcha wish for" those baby boomers are not going out with a whimper, hey ?
