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JimDandy

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...-depression-drug-making-narcan-fail-1.5096395

I can only say thank God I do not abuse drugs!

What I don't understand is why is this huge national disaster is not front page news every day of the year? If 1155 BC residents had died of the measles or the flu last year, instead of overdoses, people would be screaming from the rooftops for all level of governments to be doing more. Hell, we see stories on the news all of the time about measles outbreaks, and I'm not aware of even a single person actually dying from it.

And it mostly young people that are dying. I use a rideshare and earlier this year I gave a ride to a mother in her early 50s s to Whistler that had returned from the Maritimes because her 20 something son had died of an overdose. She had not even been aware that he used. I suspect this is true for a lot of the parents of the deceased. She knew he was not "in the best place" in his life but thought it was just a phase he was going through. She found out later that he was not a regular user, but "partied" occasionally. It seems the "regular" users are less likely to die because they are more likely to make sure someone is around when they use and also have a better idea of just how much they can safely use without overdosing.

I wonder how serious this problem has to get before something is done. Perhaps the child of some well known senior Canadian politician has to die and then it will become an official national disaster.

JD
 

sybian

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I know a guy that runs a company in the construction industry.
He was telling me he has 30 to 50 employees depending on the amount of work in a given year......He told me a few weeks ago, he has lost 4 employees to overdoses in the last 3 years.
 

E.H.

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I know Nancy Reagans',"Just say no."is naïve to the reality of recreational drug use,on every level.
Registered drug addicts,provided with a clean supply,is the harm reduction approach to curtail fatalities.
Like alcohol & tobacco,opioid users will succumb to their habit over the years,rather than over night.

One thing I take away from the George Michael story,is how opioids dangerously enlarged his heart,rendered irreversible damage.
Sad,but no less sad than the people I know,who have slowly killed themselves with alcohol.
A 39 year old friend,is physically bloated & breaking out with rosacea,from white wine .
I have already seen others on their deathbeds at 60,from white wine,yellow/orange skin and their white eye sclera turned green.

Engelbert Humperdink
 

Cock Throppled

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It's not an issue because it's not just addicts dying.

If anyone is stupid enough at this point to use opioids recreationally, and die as a result, it's more a case of Darwinism.
 

clu

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It's not an issue because it's not just addicts dying.

If anyone is stupid enough at this point to use opioids recreationally, and die as a result, it's more a case of Darwinism.
Easy to say. "Recreational use" is a term that can belie the underlying cause. People who use drugs are often not in a good place mentally. They can be attempting to self-medicate as much as anything. They need help. They don't get help. They turn to drugs.
 

lukom

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I know a guy that runs a company in the construction industry.
He was telling me he has 30 to 50 employees depending on the amount of work in a given year......He told me a few weeks ago, he has lost 4 employees to overdoses in the last 3 years.
Construction workers are one of the most unacknowledged in the field of mental health. They're up there in the suicide and overdose rates. They get paid well, but they're constantly forced to go out of pocket buying their own tools. materials. safety equipment...etc Work ins't consistnent, they're at one site for a certain period, then there's no work for several months, and then you're back at work at a whole different site, and at times, furhter away from where you live. It's these 12 hour days that at times don't get fully paid for... the list goes on. I'm not at all surprised.
 

storm rider

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I agree

It's not an issue because it's not just addicts dying.

If anyone is stupid enough at this point to use opioids recreationally, and die as a result, it's more a case of Darwinism.
Fentanyl is used to tranquilize elephants....the largest land mammal on the planet.If anyone willingly uses Fentanyl knowing full well it will most likely lead to death....well....fuck em.....they are just plain stupid.

I have smoked a lot of grass in my life as well as hash and I even got a nice batch of honey oil way back in the day.I have dropped acid twice back in my early twenties and I would not drop acid now.

That being said I never did coke/crack/ice or any pills.If people want to willfully take a drug that they KNOW more than likely kill them then they reap what they sew.

SR
 

sybian

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Construction workers are one of the most unacknowledged in the field of mental health. They're up there in the suicide and overdose rates. They get paid well, but they're constantly forced to go out of pocket buying their own tools. materials. safety equipment...etc Work ins't consistnent, they're at one site for a certain period, then there's no work for several months, and then you're back at work at a whole different site, and at times, furhter away from where you live. It's these 12 hour days that at times don't get fully paid for... the list goes on. I'm not at all surprised.
Yeah I was one of them a long while ago...So I turned to Ranching.
Longer hours, more risk, but I'm always home, my bank account, my successes as well as failures ...are all my own.
Never did have a fascination with drugs....and although I've said otherwise around here, I'm not much of a drinker anymore....I've ripped open a few too many barrooms , and spent the night in the tank to sleep it off.
I learned that perhaps I wasn't indestructible.....and stayed alive.
 

Shanghai

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Most of the drug overdose deaths occur in the downtown eastside. The development occurring in that area is going nuts. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there is motive to get rid of the riffraff occupying some of the highest land valued area in the country.

Cops leave the big dealers alone, and put on a show of arresting the riff-raff selling $5 hits of whatever. China supplies the drugs, and they are buying up property and funding development. The city gets a few token housing unit built to make it seem like they are addressing the displacement. Meanwhile, they know that in 5-10 years most of the druggies draining off resources and occupying valuable land will all be dead.

Perbites will be left wondering where to get their $20 blowjobs, and discover that they only game in town will be the entitled millennials on Cuddleup and Leo’slist that won’t sneeze on your shrivelled dick for less than $100.
 

lukom

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Yeah I was one of them a long while ago...So I turned to Ranching.
Longer hours, more risk, but I'm always home, my bank account, my successes as well as failures ...are all my own.
Never did have a fascination with drugs....and although I've said otherwise around here, I'm not much of a drinker anymore....I've ripped open a few too many barrooms , and spent the night in the tank to sleep it off.
I learned that perhaps I wasn't indestructible.....and stayed alive.
Wow. Ranching eh. I admire you. Not sure id be able to make such a commitment.
 

sybian

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Wow. Ranching eh. I admire you. Not sure id be able to make such a commitment.
It comes with the job, but the only way I get to tell the boss to shut up ,or get lost is, ....if I'm looking in the mirror.
But thank you for the recognition.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Most of the drug overdose deaths occur in the downtown eastside. The development occurring in that area is going nuts. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there is motive to get rid of the riffraff occupying some of the highest land valued area in the country.

Cops leave the big dealers alone, and put on a show of arresting the riff-raff selling $5 hits of whatever. China supplies the drugs, and they are buying up property and funding development. The city gets a few token housing unit built to make it seem like they are addressing the displacement. Meanwhile, they know that in 5-10 years most of the druggies draining off resources and occupying valuable land will all be dead.

Perbites will be left wondering where to get their $20 blowjobs, and discover that they only game in town will be the entitled millennials on Cuddleup and Leo’slist that won’t sneeze on your shrivelled dick for less than $100.
You got it nailed, Shanghai...... like everything else.... it's all about the money.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Construction workers are one of the most unacknowledged in the field of mental health. They're up there in the suicide and overdose rates. They get paid well, but they're constantly forced to go out of pocket buying their own tools. materials. safety equipment...etc Work ins't consistnent, they're at one site for a certain period, then there's no work for several months, and then you're back at work at a whole different site, and at times, furhter away from where you live. It's these 12 hour days that at times don't get fully paid for... the list goes on. I'm not at all surprised.
I got out of the construction game a long time ago.....too many guys with beat up bodies that don't age well. It was so sad watching guys in their 50's and younger struggling through their day in pain, waiting for the end of the day to use whatever substance to alleviate the pain of the day.
Once I stared noticing guys getting stoned and drinking on the job, I was out!
 

lukom

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It comes with the job, but the only way I get to tell the boss to shut up ,or get lost is, ....if I'm looking in the mirror.
But thank you for the recognition.
There are no doubt the perks of being your own boss, in my case I'm not entirely sure I have the discipline to be my own boss.

I got out of the construction game a long time ago.....too many guys with beat up bodies that don't age well. It was so sad watching guys in their 50's and younger struggling through their day in pain, waiting for the end of the day to use whatever substance to alleviate the pain of the day.
Once I stared noticing guys getting stoned and drinking on the job, I was out!
I hear you for sure. I'm an amputee and in my case it was due to diabetes that was left un-diagnosed for far too long before things got bad. I can't imagine down strenuous labor for that amount of my life even with all my body parts intact.
 

Big_Guy_Rye

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Most of the drug overdose deaths occur in the downtown eastside. The development occurring in that area is going nuts. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there is motive to get rid of the riffraff occupying some of the highest land valued area in the country.

Cops leave the big dealers alone, and put on a show of arresting the riff-raff selling $5 hits of whatever. China supplies the drugs, and they are buying up property and funding development. The city gets a few token housing unit built to make it seem like they are addressing the displacement. Meanwhile, they know that in 5-10 years most of the druggies draining off resources and occupying valuable land will all be dead.

Perbites will be left wondering where to get their $20 blowjobs, and discover that they only game in town will be the entitled millennials on Cuddleup and Leo’slist that won’t sneeze on your shrivelled dick for less than $100.
I'm no rocket-scientist....and even I figured this out too.
 

badbadboy

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Think about why the Govt isn't doing a damn thing about the problem.

They and the pharmaceutical companies got people addicted to OxyContin and Percocet then suddenly removed them from the marketplace because of the addictive nature of the drugs. Problem is the users are still addicted to these opioids. Naturally the addicts had to find replacements so they turned to street drugs.

Fentanyl is used in hospitals as a short term sedative prior to anesthesia. Perfectly legal and legit in hospitals. Then dealers I suppose got ahold of it and mixed it with other narcotics to give the addicts the fix they need.
 

oneoldone

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Most of the drug overdose deaths occur in the downtown eastside. The development occurring in that area is going nuts. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there is motive to get rid of the riffraff occupying some of the highest land valued area in the country.

Cops leave the big dealers alone, and put on a show of arresting the riff-raff selling $5 hits of whatever. China supplies the drugs, and they are buying up property and funding development. The city gets a few token housing unit built to make it seem like they are addressing the displacement. Meanwhile, they know that in 5-10 years most of the druggies draining off resources and occupying valuable land will all be dead.

Perbites will be left wondering where to get their $20 blowjobs, and discover that they only game in town will be the entitled millennials on Cuddleup and Leo’slist that won’t sneeze on your shrivelled dick for less than $100.
This is wrong most of these deaths are occurring in suburbia bedrooms. Maybe most OD's are DTE but they get saved.
 

JimDandy

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This is wrong most of these deaths are occurring in suburbia bedrooms. Maybe most OD's are DTE but they get saved.
I believe you are correct. The people in suburbia are dying because they think they know what they can get away with and miscalculate or get a stronger batch than normal and no one sees them overdose.

JD
 

JimDandy

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So CT and SR, if or your nephew or niece, or son or daughter were to die from a recreational drug overdose, you would go to funeral and eulogize to all present, "this was darwinism at work, and thank God they are dead and no longer around to be a burden to society"?

JD
 

Cock Throppled

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So CT and SR, if or your nephew or niece, or son or daughter were to die from a recreational drug overdose, you would go to funeral and eulogize to all present, "this was darwinism at work, and thank God they are dead and no longer around to be a burden to society"?

JD
I didn't say what you invented and added just to try to appear so PC. You're the one who brought up anyone being burdens to society. That's your projection.

I wouldn't wouldn't say anything, but I'd be thinking they were extremely foolish, if not stupid.
 
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