There's a difference between protesting and stupidity

[curmudgeon]

Sorry for the rant, but sort of this annoys me.....

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/16/police-protests.html

Peaceful protest is fine. If this had stayed a peaceful protest, police would not have gotten involved. But when the protesters start vandalizing private and public property, that's not peaceful and the police MUST get involved. And oooo guess what, the protesters start screaming about police violence.

Hello? How demented to you have to be to not see the fallacy of protesting against police violence, becoming violent without provokation, forcing police action, then complain about police violence?

 

[nube]

I agree, that kind of stuff, just makes me want to see some bloody noses and lumps on the skull, The scenes on BCTV this AM, were just disgusting to me. BUT only 3 people arrested??? I guess the cops know what the use, they will be back on the streets in 4 hrs.

If they got arrested and charged they would not be able to get a passport - and then see how that plays out when they want to go somewhere warm in the winter...10 years from now, with a family and kids....

 

[twoblues]

Is there such a thing as a "Peaceful Protest" in todays world?

What these protesters don't realize is that they are harming their "cause of the moment" more than helping it.

"Hey, our peaceful protest isn't getting any attention, let's riot! Arrr....let's destroy stuff"

What we don't see is these guy and gals (used loosely) going home afterwards and being all proud of themselves and planning their next event. A few nights in prison would teach these people a good lesson. They aren't street people, so they'd miss their nice bed and privacy.

My sheriff friend has seen enough of these "tough activists" turn to blubber and whiners when put into a cell and held there over the weekend.

Sorry, I rambled, but they piss the heck out of me.

 

[ReluctantPooner]

Apparently some of the posters that went up Thursday morning to advertise this event, had statements such as "you can break the police."

These were trouble makers looking to make trouble. It was NOT a protest.

 

[curmudgeon]

From where I stand, there's really two different groups involved in these protests.

There are people that are protesting on a principle. They believe in an issue and they are trying to draw attention to their issue. I have no major quibble with this group.

And then there are there's a group of anarchists (sometimes called the rent-a-crowd) that are there simply to cause trouble. They're not really interested in any cause or issue. They're in it for the mayhem.

Where the problem arises is when the legitimate protesters either do nothing to separate themselves from the anarchists.... or worse, when the legitimate protesters go and actively recruit the anarchists because they want the visible support. These people actually do harm to their own cause, because the public forgets the issue and remembers the clowns smashing stuff and lighting dumpsters on fire.

 

[kafka555]

I like the description of retired VPD Inspector Dave Jones that a certain proportion of the crowd were "adventure tourists."

 

[jjinvan]

Remember that the liberals ran commercials 'warning' people that if Harper was elected, he would put MORE police (people with guns) on the streets.

Now, who but an annoying pain in the ass leftie would object to MORE police in the streets?

Tiananmen them all

Hmm

Tiana'n'men ... maybe that WOULD keep them too busy to be such pains in the ass.

 

[curmudgeon]

This is going to be my last post on this thread, just because I don't want to dwell on this much longer (got better things to think about).

Following Friday's news story on this event, I've concluded that the Anti Poverty Committee are a bunch of lying violent anarchists pretending to advocate for the poor.

The news showed their spokes people claiming that the 3 people arrested in Vancouver's protest had no association with APC. And yet the news showed archive footage from several APC organized protests over the last few years with same people (indentified by name and picture) present at each of those events.

APC is not opposed to the police, they're not opposed to the goverment, they're not opposed to olympics. They're opposed to everything. They're not fighting for the poor. The poor are convenient pawns in their fight against society.

I checked the APC website, they are on a hosting service that is controlled by an organization that publically advocates anarchy. As do many of the other websites on that service.

That's enough ranting for me..... I'm moving on.....

 

[The Lizard King]

Where the problem arises is when the legitimate protesters either do nothing to separate themselves from the anarchists....

As an anarchist, I take exception to this! Since when did peaceful protest get anything accomplished? There's a difference between anarchists and the rent-a-protester or scumbag crowd looking for ways to extort more money from the government and us, the taxpayers.

 

[john23]

This is going to be my last post on this thread, just because I don't want to dwell on this much longer (got better things to think about).

Following Friday's news story on this event, I've concluded that the Anti Poverty Committee are a bunch of lying violent anarchists pretending to advocate for the poor.

The news showed their spokes people claiming that the 3 people arrested in Vancouver's protest had no association with APC. And yet the news showed archive footage from several APC organized protests over the last few years with same people (indentified by name and picture) present at each of those events.

APC is not opposed to the police, they're not opposed to the goverment, they're not opposed to olympics. They're opposed to everything. They're not fighting for the poor. The poor are convenient pawns in their fight against society.

I checked the APC website, they are on a hosting service that is controlled by an organization that publically advocates anarchy. As do many of the other websites on that service.

That's enough ranting for me..... I'm moving on.....

They are definitely at a point where nobody takes them seriously who is in any position to do anything about it.

There is a difference between whining about something and actually fixing it. Personally, I'd be much happier fixing the problem.