The New And Very Improved Supreme Spa

[Cruz4chicks]

Hi Everyone, It's been awhile. I retired from the hobby for the last 4 months, I call it a Leave af absence. Anyway I still kept up with the goings ons on perb, and found that Gabrielle was back working @ supreme so I thought today would be a good day to see her.(Before she's gone for good)as I Haven't seen her yet.
I called supreme to see if she was on and made an appointment. I arrived at the new studio which is still having work completed 10 min early was greeted by sandy, who got Gabrielle for me. The new studio looks great, the room I was in was very nice, it's the last one @ the end of the hall. It had a 3 person tub and 2 person shower great water pressure and temp which gabby turned on for me. After reading the reviews on her I was very much looking forward too seeing her and she didn't disapoint either.She has a pretty face and massive chest. fiarly good looking lady.
Her pic's on the website are old but fairly accurate. I'm Glad I saw her, she's very friendly and open to chat. She told me that the bigger studio's are all raising the fee's and any extra extra's are going to be charged for at 1 green per extra over and above 2 browns. So it looks like I'll be taking a Leave of absence again till I can afford to come out of retirement. Today's service ran me 2 browns + 2 Greens and it was worth every penny. No clock watching, good conversation and awsome extras. I now know why she's listed as one of the best.
On the L\a\s scale I'd say 7.5\9.5\8.5. Repeat\ @ the new price There are to many others I'd like to see first- for the first time. So maybe If she's still in the game when I've tryed all the 32 other flavors I'll see her again. But I not interested in being any sp's regular at this stage of my pooning life.

Cruz

 

[gabrielle]

thx for the post. it was done really well. i would like to say that the prices reflect what the prices are going to be all around the board. the top studios with the top girls have come together to discuss studio pricing and our room fees have all gone up by $5 for feb.1), so that everyone is on the same page. with the consistent pricing scheme, we plead with you to expect consisteny throughout your experiences at supreme. prices haven't changed too dramatically at all, just that extras like GFE and fantasy play/costumes, DOM are in a higher service bracket now, so they cost a little extra above and beyond one of our other pampering sessions. we hope you all love the new studo...it really was bui;t with you 'men' in mind. thanks so much.

 

[Pan]

I was at the new location Tuesday night for another tremendous session with GiGi. I didn't get a tour, but the place looks nice. A bit roomier than the old spot, but not a whole lot different to my eyes. I really wanted to see the new broom closet, to check out the accomodations for Trawler and Pussyman. Perhaps next time...
I too was informed about the rate increase, though the quotes I got were higher than one green up. Closer to a red higher, but perhaps I was mistaken in that impression.
Apparently some of the ladies are a bit concerned about the increase, which seems somewhat justified. While I believe that a provider of any service should keep their rates indexed for infaltion, so to speak, an increase will slow down my custom in these places. I am not a wealthy man, and I am already spending too much on this hobby...
We will have to see what the other studios choose to do. With the lower echelon joints like Temptations offering $120.00 introductory specials, the move may backre a tad.

 

[Pan]

Gabrielle's post went up while I was writing mine, and I suspect the higher rates I was quoted were related to a "GFE" experience.
So I guess, to fit this into my budget, I will have to ask the ladies to be a bit more impersonal in future...

 

[guitarboy]

feeling hurt

Yes I agree with you Pan. An increase for services such as GFE or costumes begs the question, why? and exactly how much more? I'd rather see an increase in the room fee if necessary as opposed to paying for extra upon extra

 

[trawler]

Gabby, I have not seen the new Studio ...

or experienced the new pricing, but there is one thing I know for sure and that is that You were "... really .. built with you 'men' in mind" - to paraphrase your own words. IMHO the most important asset in a Studio is not the Digs it is the Dolls and this Studio has some of the Supremist Dolls in the Hobby.

I do wish Sandy/Leah and all your Gals I know the best of luck and I hope to get by to check the place out soon.

 

[TOFTT]

An Interesting Subject

The subject of price increases has been discussed on this board before and it's always been a touchy subject. Myself, I feel that since this is free enterprise, each girl has the right to charge whatever she feels she is worth. On the other hand as a pooner with a somewhat limited budget (despite what you guys might think. LOL.) I must think with my wallet and decide on where I can get the best value for my dollar.

Gabby mentions that all the "Top Studios" have gotten together to discuss setting fixed pricing for rates. I thought it was only the Oil Companys that were in collusion together? LOL.

It was my understanding that the rates for F/S at Supreme would be going up slightly to around the $220 mark, which seems to be the going rate at the "Top Studios" and to which I believe the vast majority of clients have no problem with, considering the fine service we recieve (For the most part) and the chance to spend some quality time with a beautiful lady. What I do have problems with is this sudden inclination by some SPs to start charging an extra $20 to $50 for every extra that we were previously receiving from her before for the price of our F/S session. Does that mean that a session that previously cost me $200-$225 can now cost me anywhere from $300 to $400? I always thought F/S meant full service? Did I miss something somewhere along the line?

I would also like to know what and who determines are the 'Top Studios"? Does it mean charging higher prices or having fancier digs puts you in the top echelon? From my vast experiance I have always found that most every studio in town has at least one or two ladies who provide excellent service for a reasonable price. Yes, it is nice to have a session in lush and wonderfull surroundings but in the end (for me at least) it will always be the SP that keeps me coming back to a certain studio. It is the SPs that make the studio, not the other way around. Case in point: The recent events at Fantasy.

By my last count there are over 30 studios in town and not an endless supply of pooners, so I believe that the Edmonton SP scene right now is a buyers market. In the past few months I've had the pleasure to have F/S with some very beautifull ladies for the price range of $150-$180 (plus a modest tip on my behalf). For the most part, all these sessions were non-rushed (no 15 minute specials for me thanks) and extremely enjoyable, to the point where I have no hesitation in returning to see them. Some SPs realize that seeing 6 to 8 clients a day at this rate is much more profitable than seeing 1 or 2 at an inflated rate. Don't get me wrong. I will not be or do I condone boycotting the studios like Supreme, Penthouse, Sinderellas, or what have you. It's just that I will be spending a lot less time at these places, as there is an abundance of other MPs who are dying for our buisness.

I'd also like to point out that a regular client should receive some special consideration for being a regular/loyal client. After all, what is the incentive to have a regular girl if walk-ins and newbies receive cheaper/better sessions? What about price loyalty? It almost makes it worthwhile to NOT have a regular girl who charges regular or up-scaled rates (never mind the gifts, trinkets and baubles we bring them), when you can walk in and negotiate a lower rate or improved session with other well reviewed ladies.

I guess what I'm trying to say in general is: Shop around guys! You'd be surprised as to what is available out there. Lord knows we all work hard for our money so spending it wisely is the key. I hope I haven't ruffled too many feathers, but based on some of the recent comments by my fellow pooners, I'm not the only one who feels this way. If anyone would like to furher comment or build on what I have said, please feel free.

 

[guitarboy]

like a gas war

To put it lightly; maybe a thread for the purpose of highlighting lower or discount fees at MPs around town, just like a gas war?

 

[trawler]

May I Suggest the Obvious ...

any Banter on this Board regarding fees will be just that, Banter. The Studios and the Girls are in business and intend to charge what the market will bear; consequently, I recommend that all PERBerts follow these steps for the next while until prices have been settled:

1. Ask at the beginning of your session, don't just assume that Room and Tip will be as was in the past;

2. Communicate to the Girls clearly as to your acceptance of the Room or Tip fee structure they are using. If not acceptable, decline the session and look elsewhere; and

3. Report your findings on this Thread so Fellow Pooners can get some BENCHMARK to work with.

I will start the dicussion by suggesting that the BENCHMARK for a Pooner, in my experience, has become: $30 for up to an hour plus $200 for full service. This will vary once you become a Regular and the Service will always have an element of YMMV but is generally all inclusive at this price, except for trips to Greece and Duos which have their own pricing as developed by the Girls involved.

Now lets get out there, test the markets and report back so we can adjust our budgets accordingly .

 

[trawler]

bigwpg, IMHO the $30 + $200 ...

should be the Novel (all Services provided by the Girl except Greek).

 

[TOFTT]

Good Points Trawler

3. Report your findings on this Thread so Fellow Pooners can get some BENCHMARK to work with.

I will start the dicussion by suggesting that the BENCHMARK for a Pooner, in my experience, has become: $30 for up to an hour plus $200 for full service. This will vary once you become a Regular and the Service will always have an element of YMMV but is generally all inclusive at this price, except for trips to Greece and Duos which have their own pricing as developed by the Girls involved.

Now lets get out there, test the markets and report back so we can adjust our budgets accordingly .

While I can agree with you about the 30.00 for up to an hour room fee, there are places like escape/kingsway/venus charge 25.00 per half hour, while sinderellas charges up to 45.00 for an hour

"200.00 Full Service", now that is an interesting phrase, as it appears that FS means different things to different people. Is a cbj part of fs or an extra? Is kissing part of fs or an extra. Daty, part of fs or not. How about cowgirl or multiple positions or even MSOG

In the past, MOST of these things have been included, or perhaps the daty was thrown in for the orally skilled among us , but it now appears that these may now be considered as extras

Yeah, I'll agree that greek is an extra, but there seems to be quite the variance in that rate as of late too!

It just seems that that the recent increase in room rates seems to have also triggered "new extras" or new inproved "extra rates"

True enough, this is a market based economy, and the market forces will dictate the future. Either a lot of studios will close, or the pricing will fall to attract clients.

So Pooners, feel free to report back, exhange PM's, set the benchmark, and to quote Trawler:

Now lets get out there, test the markets and report back so we can adjust our budgets accordingly

 

[Omega Man]

In my Alex @ Temptations review I brought up the idea that the increased competition may force prices down. Good thing I'm not an economist.
I think the lower end studios will have to get aggressive for our pooning dollars by offering these FS specials (Alex provided CBJ, reverse massage and multiple positions for $120). Certainly I'll give Temptations another try for $120 ... it's like two sessions for the price of one. And if more of the lower end studios - take your pick we all know which ones I'm talking about - start similar promotions I'm in.

 

[littlejonny]

It's not like the situation has changed that much. There have always been some services that I sometimes ask for during a session. Sometimes a girl says yes, but at an extra charge. I always decline when they want to charge extra, but then we all have that right. She has the right to ask for extra, and I have the right to say no. I'll probably never see her again either, but then again, that's my right.

I can see the owners wanting to recoup their investment if they put money into building or renovating a nice studio, but I'll tell you, cartels never work. You have to charge what the market will bear. The best girls want to work at the places that have the most business, not necessarily the ones that have the nicest facilities. Speaking for myself, if there's a beautiful girl with an excellent attitude and reasonable pricing, I'll go see her at the city dump if I have to. Beautiful facilities are just a nice extra to have, but not the primary reason I'll visit an MP. On the other hand, if a place has a combination of excellent staff and excellent facilities, maybe I will pay a little extra. We'll just have to see.

 

[Clueless in AB]

Yikes! Shades of Calgary influence...

It seems like, from the above discussion, that Edmonton may be at the same price levels as Calgary soon. And the girls in Calgary have numerous restrictions that the hobbiest in Ed would feel ripped off if he ever had the displeasure!

The cost for F/S at Fantasy in Edmonton wouldn't buy you a cbj at Club Y in Calgary (before this price increase). Omega Man may have the right idea by speaking with his cash...

 

[santiago]

I went into Club Y once, the woman who greeted me had some nasty looking mole on her face so I left.

Calgary has some good outcalls, I would recommend those.

 

[SlimShady]

When I go to Edmonton next and have to pay more than $200 for room and FS I'm not coming to visit to poon again.

WTF?

 

[Tiffany]

Hey there, I've never posted before and there is a first time for everything.
I found it rather funny to see this post today as I was talking about the same issue earlier this evening at work. Over the last few months there has been a huge issue with prices. I read the papers and all of the specials, but I feel that the desperation for clientele is getting out of control. I know that it's always nice to save a few $, but when is it enough?

I am happy to read that some of the studios are working together to create some standard rates, that's the way it should be. I'm not saying to over charge, but some specialties should cost more. All of us work hard and put lots of time, effort and money into ourselves, so that we look at our best.
As an sp I expect to give my best, but it's hard when most of the clientele expects to pay half price. We don't give you half the service. All I'm saying is that there needs to be a balance somewhere, and the idea of something for nothing isn't all that appealing.

When you go into work, your boss doesn't tell you that you're only getting paid half of what your wage is or that you don't get paid overtime for the extra hours. Our job is still a profession and I think that bargaining shouldn't be a part of it. Regulars should get a special price, to let you know that your visits are appreciated.

I hope I don't sound bitter, it's just the way I feel. Talk to you soon.

 

[TOFTT]

Hey there, I've never posted before and there is a first time for everything.
I found it rather funny to see this post today as I was talking about the same issue earlier this evening at work. Over the last few months there has been a huge issue with prices. I read the papers and all of the specials, but I feel that the desperation for clientele is getting out of control. I know that it's always nice to save a few $, but when is it enough?

I am happy to read that some of the studios are working together to create some standard rates, that's the way it should be. I'm not saying to over charge, but some specialties should cost more. All of us work hard and put lots of time, effort and money into ourselves, so that we look at our best.
As an sp I expect to give my best, but it's hard when most of the clientele expects to pay half price. We don't give you half the service. All I'm saying is that there needs to be a balance somewhere, and the idea of something for nothing isn't all that appealing.

When you go into work, your boss doesn't tell you that you're only getting paid half of what your wage is or that you don't get paid overtime for the extra hours. Our job is still a profession and I think that bargaining shouldn't be a part of it. Regulars should get a special price, to let you know that your visits are appreciated.

I hope I don't sound bitter, it's just the way I feel. Talk to you soon.

Thanks Tiffany for your comments. You shouldn't have to give up your services for half price. Unfortunately there are a number of bad pooners out there who try to get it as cheap as they can and are maybe sometimes rude about it. On the flipside I believe there is a majority of us guys who have no problem paying a fair price for services rendered as long as we don't feel there is gouging or greed involved. Hopefully along the line there will be a happy medium found. Every SP should set her prices as to what she thinks is fair, comparitive to the services she offers and how busy/popular she is. The most important thing is that you should feel good about yourself and how you treat your clients. Thanks for mentioning that regular clients should get a few added perks compared to first timers.

Tiffany, do you mind telling us where you are situated so that we can all come visit you and give you tons of money. You seem to have a great attitude.

 

[gabrielle]

you guys are so right...the girls do make the studio by far! thank you for that clarification. i think trawler is right on target when it comes to pricing. it has always been a case where there are girls who charge what they should for their level of service and attitude, girls who undercharge unknowingly because they come from paradise/kingsway, etc. and are taken advantage of by these places...and then the doozy- girls who overcharge!! we are only looking for consistency.

when we talk about the extras...we can all agree that we are only talking about those girls who go above and beyond there call of duty in regards to pampering you guys with extra service and extra time! if a girl spends an hour and a half with you, let her know how much you appreciate it. if more men like TOFTT were around and tipped above and beyond what was quoted, the girls would never have to ask. at the same time, we totally understand that not all is forseen...so when you go see that girl that blew your socks off the next time, show her then!

we do need your feedback!! sandy and leah do need to hear your opinions! they need to know if girls' service is not level with pricing. this is only to protect the girls who didn't know...or you guys from the girls who know better!! thanks so much.

we are all well aware of pricing throughout the city...remember that i did come from paradise!! there are still the standard price ranges for services. nothing has changed at supreme except the new beautiful surroundings and the $5 room fee increase. have fun everyone!!

 

[tur]

I've been gone from the market for a about half a year, and so much has changed. Good thing I read this post, and Cruz's post, so I know to pack an extra green or two. However, my experience has always been two reds for f/s and room (massage/reverse/cbj/positions), and that was all i used to pack. I think the girls should charge what the feel is right to them, I know I do in the line of work i am in. However, that just means a few less poons for me . We in Edmonton have been blessed with great girls and studios for such a long time that we've been a bit spoiled. However, I still feel that Edmonton is regarded as a "smaller" city and we need to make sure that we do not start charging like the girls in Vancouver etc. At the end of the day, I was upset when Fantasy started to charge an extra green. If FS is now 2 reds and a green, overall i guess that is just a sign of the times. it's been 2 reds for a few years now, so with inflation and all, i guess 2 reds and a green is reasonable. afterall, we all have rent increases, prices go up at the supermarket, we all get pay raises, so maybe its just time for the girls to get a raise too. let's just hope they don't expect raises too large and too often.