let it out bob
absolute zero regard for people’s personal lives and hard earned days work
protest to your hearts content if that’s all you have going on in your life
STOP SCREWING AROUND WITH EVERYDAY PEOPLE
The Hypocrisy of Pipeline Protestors
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absolute zero regard for people’s personal lives and hard earned days work
protest to your hearts content if that’s all you have going on in your life
STOP SCREWING AROUND WITH EVERYDAY PEOPLE
So you’ve been to the North and south poles to see this melting firsthand or is that just what you’ve heard? If and when the ice cap melts at the North pole it will not affect the ocean level at all as I’ve pointed out to another misinformed forum member, because it is ice floating on water.
I hardly think a pipeline running through some moose pasture in backwoods BC is worth all the fuss and protest.
Just get a bit more firm and solid minded and you just may be allowed to join the Fred Birch Society.
For those who get it please post back on the "Fred Birch Society".
It is pretty pathetic about the response to this BS.Blockades across the country with one of the two National Railways shut down as well as ports and highways.Lets see if Justine Trudeau takes his balls out of his wife's purse and gets something done.
SR
No....we are not cut from the same cloth as the Colonists.
We don't send them into chaos of reform...we allow them to embrace their culture.
We don't let them die by the hundreds, we give them healthcare.
We don't take their children away....we encourage their culture to raise their children within their bloodlines.
We are easier in sentencing on them, as it has been legislated when they commit a crime, they are a recognized as a culture of people whom have been oppressed by the Government, and that is taken into consideration.
We recognize that they mistrust Government because of the boarding schools, where hundreds of children died, and our Government has tried to reconcile for past policies that we now know as wrong.....
We as a Country will give them all the education that they as an indigenous person wants....for free.
Upon turning 18 they are awarded Indian benefits by the government every month...for life.
If they choose to live on a reservation, they are awarded shelter, for a nominal fee , but it remains the property of the band.
Most Chiefs make well in excess of 100 thousand a year...if they pocket Government awarded money for themselves there is rarely a charge, or jail time.....if there is, it's months, not years.
Speaking for myself.....I'm not cut from the same cloth, and my family was still in Europe when all the past atrocities happened, but I'm happy to accept that tax burden, so their people can reclaim some dignity, and self sustenance.
Having said that.....there must come an end to the burden of cost....there will be a time when they must manage their own affairs, and bring in their own revenues to support their people, on a level playing field, that is equal for all Canadians.
Its not just the ice in the water. It is the ice and glaciers over the landmasses too. Look at famous mountains in Africa, Japan, and mountains here in North America, the snow and ice is receding or gone altogether on certain mountain tops. The ice over Greenland and Antarctica are melting too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_VmDMPZ9sY
Some people site all this winter storms with dumps of large amounts of snow as indications that climate change is not happening, but that snow is gone in a week or 2 as thoughout the winter there are 4 to 5 melting periods, where that did not happen before. I live in Victoria and if we get snow it gone within a couple of days.
The only results I see for stopping the pipeline construction is keeping the gas in the ground. Who does that benifit? Well it benifits companies in the US (eg keeping the gas for themselves for future use). Which is where the money is coming from to support the protestors.
What should be done with the gas line profits is to make renewable engery sources so that future generation can use them (wind, soloar etc).
The problem is Canada is a resource based economy (despite all the technology we use) . Right now the Government and Companies are giving away our natural resources at a cheap price. The people in these companies and government get there kickback, either monetary or through jobs.
Instead on all non-renewable resources the governments should tax 40%. To go into a future fund(like Norwegian Trillium Fund/ or Alberta's Heritage Fund) to help offset the loss of today's minerals/oil to help future Canadians.
One thing is right about the protesters, Canadians have to take the long view. I don't agree with them blocking public roads.
Thing to think about, when I first went to college (I went to a nice Christian run college). It was the first place I was asked if I did MJ, and offered it. College was the first place I seen alot of different ways of life that were foreign to me, and where I considered I met the most insidious people who tried to sway you from your beliefs. (Basicly a wannbe Mansons who want you to follow them). What is the saying "most people get radicalized in College".
Some people site all this winter storms with dumps of large amounts of snow as indications that climate change is not happening, but that snow is gone in a week or 2 as thoughout the winter there are 4 to 5 melting periods, where that did not happen before. I live in Victoria and if we get snow it gone within a couple of days.
The only results I see for stopping the pipeline construction is keeping the gas in the ground. Who does that benifit? Well it benifits companies in the US (eg keeping the gas for themselves for future use). Which is where the money is coming from to support the protestors.
What should be done with the gas line profits is to make renewable engery sources so that future generation can use them (wind, soloar etc).
The problem is Canada is a resource based economy (despite all the technology we use) . Right now the Government and Companies are giving away our natural resources at a cheap price. The people in these companies and government get there kickback, either monetary or through jobs.
Instead on all non-renewable resources the governments should tax 40%. To go into a future fund(like Norwegian Trillium Fund/ or Alberta's Heritage Fund) to help offset the loss of today's minerals/oil to help future Canadians.
One thing is right about the protesters, Canadians have to take the long view. I don't agree with them blocking public roads.
Thing to think about, when I first went to college (I went to a nice Christian run college). It was the first place I was asked if I did MJ, and offered it. College was the first place I seen alot of different ways of life that were foreign to me, and where I considered I met the most insidious people who tried to sway you from your beliefs. (Basicly a wannbe Mansons who want you to follow them). What is the saying "most people get radicalized in College".
Even assuming the enviro-alarmists are correct, how is stopping this pipeline going to save the world from climate change? All of Canada accounts for 1.6% of global GHG emissions. Is the world going to stop burning all fossil fuels overnight if only Canada will lead the way and halt this pipeline? Should we sacrifice our economy on the alter of environmentalism to accomplish diddly squat?
What do you mean by Colonists and Invaders? Are you Indigenous or are you living on Stolen Land as well?
So Trudeau's carbon tax applies to all Canadian made Oil and carbon usage. Fine, we (not me) voted this idiot with shoe polish on his face in, so if we have to live with his useless policies for 3 more years until someone smarter removes it, so be it. That's democracy and i accept it.
But even though Canada has the 3rd most Oil reserves in the world, and the capability to supply itself with its own domestic Oil and export excess, we still need to import 40% of our oil from Saudi Arabia and other dictatorial Gulf states with bad human rights records who repress women and minorities etc.. and produce their oil with less environmental regulations. This carbon tax applies to all Canadian made oil, but does not apply to the foreign oil we need to buy regardless to makeup our shortfall.
Answer me this, why do these climate/Oil protestors not protest the fact that foreign imported oil gets a 'pass' from Trudueau's carbon tax? Why do they only protest Canadian made oil? Never seen them protest in front of the Saudi embassy or asking them to pay their fair share of Trudeau carbon cash grab...er...tax. Never seen them protest in front of China or India embassy which generates 40% of global greenhouse gases, or boycott Chinese made items etc..
But even though Canada has the 3rd most Oil reserves in the world, and the capability to supply itself with its own domestic Oil and export excess, we still need to import 40% of our oil from Saudi Arabia and other dictatorial Gulf states with bad human rights records who repress women and minorities etc.. and produce their oil with less environmental regulations. This carbon tax applies to all Canadian made oil, but does not apply to the foreign oil we need to buy regardless to makeup our shortfall.
Answer me this, why do these climate/Oil protestors not protest the fact that foreign imported oil gets a 'pass' from Trudueau's carbon tax? Why do they only protest Canadian made oil? Never seen them protest in front of the Saudi embassy or asking them to pay their fair share of Trudeau carbon cash grab...er...tax. Never seen them protest in front of China or India embassy which generates 40% of global greenhouse gases, or boycott Chinese made items etc..
Reconcilation. Well I thinks its over. Nowhere in our government system should the people of Canada kowtow to a single interest group. A single interest group who gets money from your tax dollar and wants a poliitcal say on how Canada is run. They don't pay taxes. What's the old saying "no representation without taxes". And yet they get to vote in our elections. They get extra money for the kids they have, they get free university education , no other taxpayer gets that, and they don't pay taxes...
The majority of bands across Canada have problems, drugs, alcohol, child abuse, rape, misappropriation of tax funds, and the federal government does nothing. Sending them to jail, just breeds more ignorance and acts like a training ground for gang activity.
If you live in Canada, you pay taxes....
I 'm tired of these whining people, where only a few make the rest look bad. A deal by the gas company was made with the elected bands. And now they block transportation lines. I suspect the lines you hear on the news about "Hereditary Chiefs"; is just that, all bullshit.... Thats like saying the Queen of England can interfer in our politics.... no way that will happen.... So why do we let these unelected Hereditary Chiefs tell us what to do....
The bottom line is that you are either a Canadian Citizen or a foreigner.... you can't be both.
and you pay taxes.....
The majority of bands across Canada have problems, drugs, alcohol, child abuse, rape, misappropriation of tax funds, and the federal government does nothing. Sending them to jail, just breeds more ignorance and acts like a training ground for gang activity.
If you live in Canada, you pay taxes....
I 'm tired of these whining people, where only a few make the rest look bad. A deal by the gas company was made with the elected bands. And now they block transportation lines. I suspect the lines you hear on the news about "Hereditary Chiefs"; is just that, all bullshit.... Thats like saying the Queen of England can interfer in our politics.... no way that will happen.... So why do we let these unelected Hereditary Chiefs tell us what to do....
The bottom line is that you are either a Canadian Citizen or a foreigner.... you can't be both.
and you pay taxes.....
Normally I’m really not for fossil fuels used for power generation but natural gas is the cleanest for this purpose. The northern pipeline rout is the shortest shipping route to the Asian markets preventing many more days of shipping pollution from other North American routes. The new gas generating stations in Asia will be much cleaner than the coal burning units they use now. It’s a win win all around and BC and Canada needs the cash badly, so far the US is fleecing us and they are more than happy to fund all these protests. US Big oil plays to win and our population is gullible enough to be duped by those Scumbags.
no one is denying that the climate is changing, it's about how to deal with it
which this isn't going to help
neither does the ridiculous moronic chicken little the sky is falling rhetoric, which comes from zealots like these
it's been going on for 100 years, most of the their "so called" prognosticator threats haven't come true
we were supposed to be under water already, famine, people dying in droves, if only, that would really help, 5 billion would really do the trick :flypig::flypig:
theses are the same type of idiots who told us we'd have run out of oil by the end of last century, lol
and they are going after low hanging fruit, if they really cared about the environment, they'd be against our immigration policy
something you'd think the Natives would really be against, (even the white ones :eyebrows
being even more out-numbered than they already are China/India/Russia/US
none are cratering their economies, they represent who they should be going after to "save mother earth"
maybe they can get a group discount with Greta on a protest tour of those places :whoo:
where were they when Turdeau rubber stamped the Cement plant in Que
it's going to add 2MT a year, Tech would add 4, it went through 10yrs of purgatory
Que nothing, no review, nothing
but they're saving mother earth, right? sure they are :sad:
I would love to see the police start taking names at some of these protests, particularly those that affect people trying to get to/from work. Take those names and determine who among them is living on the dole and then cut them off....if you prevent the taxpayers that support you from going to work, then stop supporting them.....but that's not what our society is all about is it ?
I think perhaps the comparison between Gandhi, Mandela, Martin Luther , all of whom protested against basic human rights issues......and pipeline protestors ,might be a bit of a Drama Queen move.
For every one Gandi, Mandela, etc... There are a million low IQ bafoons who protest in their name and end up on the wrong side of history. The drama queen move must come from our substitute drama teacher in-chief shoe polish face PM,
It’s a ridiculous comparison. A bunch of slacker protestors who for the most part likely don’t know what they’re protesting about and three great historical figures. Give me a fucking break.
The Eco Terrorists are not protesting OPEC/China etc because that is not the focus of the Tides Foundation.The focus of the Tides Foundation is the Oilsands and it has now been extended to the BC Mountney natural gas deposits and to stop them from getting to tidewater for export through an LNG facility.The Eco Terrorists do what they do as they know the most they will get is a slap on the wrist in Canada.None of them would protest in Saudi Arabia because they know they would be smacked upside the head with a baton real fast and thrown in jail in a country that is basically a dictatorship and the same goes for China.
Trudeau is doing nothing as he has just finishing his ass kissing visit to Africa to see if he can get a temporary seat on the UN security council.....such a fucking waste of time.If anything Canada needs to boycott the UN that is run by unelected and unaccountable Socialist bureaucrats.
SR
This situation shows how useless the drama teacher is as a prime minister. Has no balls to deal with a situation that is totally getting out of hand.
These protesters have nothing better to do.
Just face it...were all fucked.... Westcoast xpress was blocked.. 5000 people plus affected.....
Trudeau doesn’t care...... it’s not affecting him and his cronies .....
Wanna show how pissed you are.... then go in force and remove the blockade..... you’ll spend the day in jail for standing up for the working people that have to get to work. That’s how fucked the system is.
Just face it...were all fucked.... Westcoast xpress was blocked.. 5000 people plus affected.....
Trudeau doesn’t care...... it’s not affecting him and his cronies .....
Wanna show how pissed you are.... then go in force and remove the blockade..... you’ll spend the day in jail for standing up for the working people that have to get to work. That’s how fucked the system is.
If it was up to me I’d throw all of the sons of bitches in jail. Let them protest all they want from there.
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