Stanford Study Indicates Covid-19 Infection 50 to 85 Times More Common Than Thought

[giddyup]

of course you should, that's what all the irrational emotional thinking is based upon

first we were told we needed time for the health care system to be able to handle the peak, which didn't happen, at least in Canada

how much more time do they need?

it never happened in Sweden either, where they didn't do a full lockdown, they just told people to act like adults

we'll never be able to test everyone

just watched a clown from the City of Edmonton, almost crying cause he had to lay off some more people today

he did it a couple of weeks ago too

this is the type of moron we have in power

gov't workers, so sad, cause they don't qualify for EI, CERB, won't be hired back eventually

we need adults to make decisions, based on reality, not models that so far have been no where near accurate

here's the only fact they need

PEOPLE ARE NOT DYING IN NUMBERS EVEN CLOSE TO ARMAGEDDON

just look at those dead

50% in old folks homes, long term care

the "professionals" couldn't even take the most basic steps to take care of the most vulnerable

which a 6yr old could have foreseen

and we're continuing to take advice from those who have been wrong at every step, 6 days late

people are going to die, it's just a matter of when, over what timeline

SARS, a covid, no vaccine

past is good predictor of future, it's been almost 2 decades without a SARS vaccine

nature is going to take it's course, we're just delaying it

we can't stay locked up, bankrupting our society for 2 yrs

what about the others, who will die due to other situations caused by this?

the people not getting healthcare who could have lived?

those who will commit suicide due to despair, economically, socially, emotionally?

they are not doing surgeries, transplants, letting organs go to waste because of this

AB, BC, haven't had more than a 100 in AB's case, 150 in BC's case in the hospital

WE don't have 25% over 65 like Italy

we don't have 12 million people packed in one city like China

even like New York City

who wasn't overwhelmed like they believed they would be, remember the "modeling"

everyone in New York was going to die

irrational emotion

it's time for the adults to start taking charge, based on reason

that some will die, most, almost all won't

just take all the 70/80/90 yr olds out of the equation

then you re-do the "numbers"

would you then think it justifies cratering our economy

taking away people's healthcare/liberty/ability to live?

cause they aren't/weren't even smart enough/able to protect those that a 6yr old would have

and we're still taking advice from these incompetent people


just look at the stupid "essential" business that are allowed to be open, yet others aren't

since when are fast food joints "essential"

look at the arbitrary way they are deciding things

control freaks thinking they can fuck with nature then contain it

people will die, it's just a matter of when

they can study it all they want

you can't stop living for 2 yrs till it peters out

I so completely agree with you!!! Really, the mortality rate for this is .5% when factoring in the confirmed cases as well as the asymptomatic and very mild symptom cases who just recovered at home.

The amount of economic and social upheaval around this has been absolutely completely out of proportion. Especially when you , as you mentioned, factor in the percentage of deaths in care homes. Not that those lives aren't as important as others. Of course they are BUT these people are not circulating in general society. They aren't going to work, they aren't going to restaurants/bars, they aren't going to festivals/concerts. THEY are very easily isolated from the general public (other than from their caregivers who can and should be tested daily as they arrive at work)

I just find it mind boggling.

Anyway, just wanted to say I agree with you (I see many on here do not )

 

[treveller]

Again I say the covid deaths are only a secondary problem. Without a vaccine everyone would eventually be exposed and while flattening the curve would delay many deaths, it would not prevent them.

The problem is the risk of overwhelming the hospitals which would significantly increase the number of deaths by causing the death of people who have other problems along with a higher death rate for covid. Giddyup and Overdone are going on about the cost of a low death rate without any idea of what the death rate would have been if government and society had followed their amateur recommendations. I am assuming neither of them have any qualifications in anything like epidemiology. I have no such qualifications myself but I'm not contradicting the people who do have such qualifications.

 

[overdone]

Overdone, your first comment confirms my understanding that the death numbers are irrelevant in terms of the Stanford study and misleading generally. Focusing on them leads to irrational emotional thinking.

The rest of your comments contain so many misrepresentations that I won't even try to make sense of them.

no the irrational thinking is produced by not looking at reality

the gov't own numbers, yesterday on the news

95% of deaths are in 60 and up

79% of those were in long term care/old folks homes

so in otherwords 75% of deaths are in a situation where they should have been protected, yet weren't

this is killing old people, this irrational emotion that anyone can die from this is false

your chance of dying is so low it's not worth talking about

unless you are an 70-100 yrs old with medical problems

don't believe me, look at Sweden, almost all their deaths are in 65+, most in 70's 80's

we're acting irrationally, emotionally to something that doesn't warrant it

we didn't protect the vulnerable, once the virus is in the old folks homes, it's already too late

the people with the "qualifications"

are the one's who are responsible for not protecting the vulnerable when they should have

now they are over-reacting to the extreme

granted maybe Sweden is too extreme, I don't think they are, but still

somewhere in the middle or closer, rather than a lock-down would have been better

this is going to be around for up to a couple of yrs likely

facts

SARS no vaccine

we didn't do any of this stupidity

flu every year, kills old people mainly, people with health issues, same here

we don't shutter the world

it's irrational to believe we can keep those who will die alive after you let the virus in

those stats basically show that

not to mention it will only take opening up the borders and having someone from abroad come in with it again to start a second wave

the bankruptcy, economic, social, emotional toil this is going to take will cause more deaths eventually

if we don't start acting rationally, like adults

instead of anal control freaks, like a nanny state where we are deluded enough to think we can control every death

we already have plenty of facts saying we can't

tell the woman on the news that she should go blind cause she can't get her cataract surgery

could go on with these misrepresentations, but why bother with common sense

 

[giddyup]

no the irrational thinking is produced by not looking at reality

the gov't own numbers, yesterday on the news

95% of deaths are in 60 and up

79% of those were in long term care/old folks homes

so in otherwords 75% of deaths are in a situation where they should have been protected, yet weren't

this is killing old people, this irrational emotion that anyone can die from this is false

your chance of dying is so low it's not worth talking about

unless you are an 70-100 yrs old with medical problems

don't believe me, look at Sweden, almost all their deaths are in 65+, most in 70's 80's

we're acting irrationally, emotionally to something that doesn't warrant it

we didn't protect the vulnerable, once the virus is in the old folks homes, it's already too late

the people with the "qualifications"

are the one's who are responsible for not protecting the vulnerable when they should have

now they are over-reacting to the extreme

granted maybe Sweden is too extreme, I don't think they are, but still

somewhere in the middle or closer, rather than a lock-down would have been better

this is going to be around for up to a couple of yrs likely

facts

SARS no vaccine

we didn't do any of this stupidity

flu every year, kills old people mainly, people with health issues, same here

we don't shutter the world

it's irrational to believe we can keep those who will die alive after you let the virus in

those stats basically show that

not to mention it will only take opening up the borders and having someone from abroad come in with it again to start a second wave

the bankruptcy, economic, social, emotional toil this is going to take will cause more deaths eventually

if we don't start acting rationally, like adults

instead of anal control freaks, like a nanny state where we are deluded enough to think we can control every death

we already have plenty of facts saying we can't

tell the woman on the news that she should go blind cause she can't get her cataract surgery

could go on with these misrepresentations, but why bother with common sense

Yes yes a 1000 times yes. Spot on man.