SPs Faking Orgasms

[Curiousgeorge604]

We all know they do it! Well those with any experience should know it. Any advice on how to bring it up with an SP to get her to tone it down? It's a major turn off to me and has only happened a few times where it was very obvious to me that it was fake. Or I could be wrong and some SPs are just extremely orgasmic.

My last two visits I found the SPs to be over the top. I'd rather they don't orgasm but let me try than to fake before I really even got into it. I'm confident enough that even if they don't cum, it'll still have been a pleasurable experience for both of us. I realize this isn't the case for all Johns and don't expect widespread change from.SPs. Just looking for advice for myself and others like myself.

 

[felixthecat]

It's a major turn off to me and has only happened a few times where it was very obvious to me that it was fake. Or I could be wrong and some SPs are just extremely orgasmic.

Some are extremely orgasmic. Even those might add some faking on the top.

In ideal world, you'd mention your preference at the start and they'd comply. In reality they cannot trust client's words "I don't want you to cum unless it's for real". It's their job to provide an illusion.

Many of them don't even realize they are faking that much. As with any human activity, they develop an "autopilot mode" with experience. So that "over-the-top" reaction may become natural to them, and calling them on it would only offend them.

What you can do, start off slow, that gives a signal you don't expect immediate fireworks. Sometimes, you can break the flow by making a pause if you see an obviously fake reaction. Again that sends an implicit message the faking does not help them to excite you / get you off sooner.

At the end, you either develop sufficient connection to make it work for both, or not. Just stick to those with whom you have enough chemistry.

 

[Curiousgeorge604]

Good points. Yeah I always start slow, that's why I was surprised.

Explicitly saying it isn't something I've ever done because of the reasons you specified. Body language is the definitely the safest.

 

[LADY-VIA]

communication ... let her know that you want her to be her real (natural ) self, and in the moment. That there's no pressure, & you are hoping to genuinely please her and welcome any direction or tips as well. I know asking for her to be her natural self sounds a bit funny considering that her goal is to comply with your fantasies, however just hearing those words may also relax her, and the over the top orgasms.

 

[Curiousgeorge604]

I'll give it a try! Thanks Lady Via.

 

[CrazedandAbused]

What?

We're supposed to make them come?

 

[LADY-VIA]

What?

We're supposed to make them come?

Well, Id like to assume that many of you would at least try. Isn't this all supposed to be mutual enjoyable fun. Some of us are too lazy to grind the clubs, leg work and all right. You call it dial a lady, while I call it dial a cock( but the cock dials me) I just place the add, when I'm available, or perhaps just bored and randy.

The chances of us getting laid well by our clients are just as good I think as our chances of getting laid well by civilians we pluck out of establishments or meet on line.

The differences?? No leg work for us either(boring first date bullshit chit chat) No beating around any bushes. - reason why many ladies screen for COMPATIBILITY*** and both parties know what they are in for, so the games are cut out.

Many clients do aime to please us , and we ladies are gifted with a sweet stack of cash To boot !!
Maybe you are joking in your comment ? Maybe not ?

But in the end if you want to Stay in her good books, you will aime to please her, one way or another. Either with the cash, or your cock And bits. Delightful disposition, character,charm, humour.. Cleanliness., respect. Ect. How ever way you want to roll the dice. It's the aiming to please us that makes us want to please you right back.
Happy wife, happy life
Happy hooker, happier life

Basically treat her well yes. She will aime to please back and be genuinely happy to see you.

 

[CrazedandAbused]

Well, Id like to assume that many of you would at least try. Isn't this all supposed to be mutual enjoyable fun. Some of us are too lazy to grind the clubs, leg work and all right. You call it dial a lady, while I call it dial a cock( but the cock dials me) I just place the add, when I'm available, or perhaps just bored and randy.

The chances of us getting laid well by our clients are just as good I think as our chances of getting laid well by civilians we pluck out of establishments or meet on line.

The differences?? No leg work for us either(boring first date bullshit chit chat) No beating around any bushes. - reason why many ladies screen for COMPATIBILITY*** and both parties know what they are in for, so the games are cut out.

Many clients do aime to please us , and we ladies are gifted with a sweet stack of cash To boot !!
Maybe you are joking in your comment ? Maybe not ?

But in the end if you want to Stay in her good books, you will aime to please her, one way or another. Either with the cash, or your cock And bits. Delightful disposition, character,charm, humour.. Cleanliness., respect. Ect. How ever way you want to roll the dice. It's the aiming to please us that makes us want to please you right back.
Happy wife, happy life
Happy hooker, happier life

Lady Via, let me see if I understood your philosophy.

So if some "client" really rocked your socks off (more than you did him) would you pay him?

You make it seem more like a dating service, where your willingness to please him is determined more by his aim to please you (and not the cash changing hands).

Or that he has a choice in how he stays "in your good books" - either by using his cash OR his cocks/bits.

You imply there's a choice.

So, if he doesn't aim to please you, has he invested poorly?

PS. I was joking. Now I'm intrigued.

 

[Miss Kitty]

We all know they do it! Well those with any experience should know it. Any advice on how to bring it up with an SP to get her to tone it down? It's a major turn off to me and has only happened a few times where it was very obvious to me that it was fake. Or I could be wrong and some SPs are just extremely orgasmic.

My last two visits I found the SPs to be over the top. I'd rather they don't orgasm but let me try than to fake before I really even got into it. I'm confident enough that even if they don't cum, it'll still have been a pleasurable experience for both of us. I realize this isn't the case for all Johns and don't expect widespread change from.SPs. Just looking for advice for myself and others like myself.

Simple---- make her actually cum! That way she won't need to fake it.

 

[felixthecat]

if you want to Stay in her good books, you will aime to please her, one way or another. Either with the cash, or your cock And bits. Delightful disposition, character,charm, humour.. Cleanliness., respect. Ect. How ever way you want to roll the dice.

Or that he has a choice in how he stays "in your good books" - either by using his cash OR his cocks/bits.

You imply there's a choice.

She didn't "imply", she said that explicitly. Quite clear too, I think.

 

[felixthecat]

communication ... let her know that you want her to be her real (natural ) self, and in the moment. That there's no pressure, & you are hoping to genuinely please her and welcome any direction or tips as well.

Nicely put. Definitely something I can use with SPs who ask at the start what I like.
Not sure I'd initiate that conversation, since not facing the OP's issue that often.

 

[diamondd5243]

Garbage in, garbage out. If you treat any lady well, chances are she will reciprocate - human nature and studies have shown this as a fact.

Back to the original topic... i don't like the fake orgasms either, and it definitely dampens things for me because i truly want to get her off. I can tell the difference... so why bother??

When it's real though... BAM, she's a keeper!

 

[xo Heidi Hayes xo]

Garbage in, garbage out. If you treat any lady well, chances are she will reciprocate - human nature and studies have shown this as a fact.

Back to the original topic... i don't like the fake orgasms either, and it definitely dampens things for me because i truly want to get her off. I can tell the difference... so why bother??

When it's real though... BAM, she's a keeper!

diamond5243 - it is likely a little-known fact here on PERB - but any lady who has met you personally (myself included) can attest to the fact that you are in truth -SUPER STUD/MEGA BABE who likely has very few (if any) issues making any lady (SP or otherwise) gush buckets all over the place!
Speaking personally, you are an absolute NATURAL and my little kitten purrs intensely every time I hear from you.
Just callin' 'em like I see 'em!!
xoxo

 

[CrazedandAbused]

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Granted that the lady isn't an ungrateful heartless snatch, she will appreciate what you do for her
.

Ah, I see you've met my wife.

Thanks for clarifying your earlier comments. (Had my hopes up that there might be a way to win a free VIA rail pass

Appreciate your honesty though. Shows your not fake. That just makes you seem hotter in my book.

For my part I can't abide fakes. I put in the effort and, generally it's reciprocated with great results ( as an apple picker once said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction )

A few times the chemistry hasn't been there and that's the luck of the draw ( or roll of the dice as you put it)

Only had one really bad fake attempt. Her acting skills were on par with Reba McIntyre.

It was so obvious she was faking, just to move things along that it was a kill joy.

So, I pulled out, put my pants on, put my hat and boots on ( she's still laying there ) said "You go ahead and finish without me" and hit the road. Quickly found a "relief pitcher" to finish the game.

 

[badbadboy]

I recall seeing a few screamers who had me scratching my head to figure out if their vocal talents were a reaction to the sexual stimuli or if they thought it might impress me in some way.

I'd seen this one SP a few times and still didn't know if it "was real" or not. So post sex conversation I broached her operatic skills combined with her sexual pleasure to which I paraphrase her response -

"if you want me to be quiet, I can do that but almost for certain, I won't cum".

So what she was saying was the verbal "ooh you are gonna make me cuuuummm" was part of her own way of cumming physically and with her own releasing of the tension by being verbally loud.

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https://youtu.be/FZluzt3H6tk?list=RDb0OeM6UUAoI

 

[Curiousgeorge604]

It's been rare as well where I've been certain they are faking and that was due to lack of connection, poor position, and physiological signs. I brought up this topic because I really liked one SP that was questionable and I want to keep seeing her but don't want to ruin any connection we have by offending her in any way, especially if she's been real the whole time and I just underestimated how orgasmic some women can be.

Not sure how much everyone has researched what being an SP is like, but before getting into this I did. There are tons of articles directed towards women becoming SPs and faking orgasms is a huge topic. Being very verbal helps not only the client believe it, but the woman as well. Bottom line is that we're paying for an experience and they are going to do everything they can us feel extra special. They know that having orgasms makes us feel more "manly" and that also relaxes us which makes it more likely we'll have one as well. The purpose of this topic was to find that happy middle ground since going to one extreme can have the opposite affect and kill some of the guys mojos. I'd guess for most cases it's probably better for the SP to err on the fake side than not at all. Unfortunately, not all of us fall into that case and would rather just have a good time than a fake time.

As for the mention of this being like dating. I agree that it can be as we're all human and we are engaging in a very intimate activity. Remember that choosing to be an SP often means loss of relationships, so the men they meet through their work become an important way of achieving intimacy. And since they probably aren't getting sex elsewhere, it must be very welcome when an attractive client whom they have a good connection with is able to bring them to orgasm as well. I've met a couple SPs that I'm sure are not only using this as a way to make money, but also to screen for attractive, well off men that would be open minded enough to have a relationship with an SP, or former SP if they'd quit. There are a wide range of SPs and Johns so to generalize and say all feel this way would be a huge mistake. The real unicorns aren't just physically attractive, but also enjoy their work and most importantly have a genuine connection with you.

Thanks for all the feedback guys and girls. I'll give these suggestions a try.

 

[LADY-VIA]

It's been rare as well where I've been certain they are faking and that was due to lack of connection, poor position, and physiological signs. I brought up this topic because I really liked one SP that was questionable and I want to keep seeing her but don't want to ruin any connection we have by offending her in any way, especially if she's been real the whole time and I just underestimated how orgasmic some women can be.

Not sure how much everyone has researched what being an SP is like, but before getting into this I did. There are tons of articles directed towards women becoming SPs and faking orgasms is a huge topic. Being very verbal helps not only the client believe it, but the woman as well. Bottom line is that we're paying for an experience and they are going to do everything they can us feel extra special. They know that having orgasms makes us feel more "manly" and that also relaxes us which makes it more likely we'll have one as well. The purpose of this topic was to find that happy middle ground since going to one extreme can have the opposite affect and kill some of the guys mojos. I'd guess for most cases it's probably better for the SP to err on the fake side than not at all. Unfortunately, not all of us fall into that case and would rather just have a good time than a fake time.

As for the mention of this being like dating. I agree that it can be as we're all human and we are engaging in a very intimate activity. Remember that choosing to be an SP often means loss of relationships, so the men they meet through their work become an important way of achieving intimacy. And since they probably aren't getting sex elsewhere, it must be very welcome when an attractive client whom they have a good connection with is able to bring them to orgasm as well. I've met a couple SPs that I'm sure are not only using this as a way to make money, but also to screen for attractive, well off men that would be open minded enough to have a relationship with an SP, or former SP if they'd quit. There are a wide range of SPs and Johns so to generalize and say all feel this way would be a huge mistake. The real unicorns aren't just physically attractive, but also enjoy their work and most importantly have a genuine connection with you.

Thanks for all the feedback guys and girls. I'll give these suggestions a try.

The women or sp could also be in a relationship, or even married for all you know, and in that relationship not have the intimacy she desires. There are plenty of relationships that have wondering spouces, so men poon, if that's the route they take or have affairs, and women have affairs, or "paid affairs".

I actually knew an sp who told me, ( at bbc) when I asked how she got into the biz, that she wasn't satisfied enough with her long term partner, after reaching a certain age- let's say sexual prime, and she craved more. He let her, while actually no one allows people to do anything, but he was ok with her becoming a service provider. I hsvht heard of too many solo women pooners, generally it's couples who poon together, but an escort could also be considered a Pooner. The only difference is she gets paid.
Something to think about .... Who's pooning who?

 

[Curiousgeorge604]

I've met one SP that is in a relationship (and he knows about it). I'm sure there have been more but the topic only came up on a couple of occasions. I found that session to be more PSE than GFE.

 

[paprides]

So many available variations to respond to.
This is an intimate encounter, each individual having a broad spectrum of preferences, desires, ambitions.

One may simply want the race to completion, while another may prefer a time of intimacy by way of human contact as the primary goal.

In a situation involving so much privacy, honesty can go a long way. "I'd like you to share a real orgasm with me, if that's what your comfortable with. And if it's not too much to ask, please guide me along the way to ensure you have one."

Pairing with someone whom acknowledges and meets both individuals needs? That's something special.