SP sisterhood/brotherhood

[itooam1]

I have often wondered why SP dont join forces.My thinking is simple, you advertise have the same/ similair issues,why not create your own SP directory/web thingy?
There are numeriuos free sites that allow SP to advertise but yet i see only a select few using them, i wonder if they try to keep such places to themselves.Why not have a resource that all SP can use and share equally amongst yourselves?

I know for a fact that it wouldnt be a complicated thing to do, there are plenty of people who would help maintain a site...just for the asking, i am sure a few of you know some guys/girls that would love to assist you just because they can.Take a look at this board or any board...some people just like the idea of bantering with SP(or defending them or there life styles).
Instead of buying advertising space on a web page you buy a maintance share of your own site...the more SPs that are included the lower the share cost.
The possibilities seem , well a whole lot better than the alternative.

Please dont give me the lame ass speech about how competetive it is between SPs , there are plenty of men/woman for every type of SP out there, yes i agree some do get more attention...but lets face it you all work, so why not work together?

Just curious?

 

[itooam1]

Rather than competition, you need to consider that in the SP world just like any other job, there are personalities that clash, gossip does go around, people talk behind each others back, and in truth society is quite selfish. Not to mention that there are plenty of SP's, just like any other kind of folk, that JUST AREN'T A GOOD PERSON. Take into consideration how personal working as an SP is, thats your body. People are defensive and competitive enough with their money in a not-so-personal job, how protective would you be thinking of how you earned that money? A lot of girls have run into others that have broken their trust, and have issues giving it out again.
On one of the other boards, us girls have an SP lounge, where we pass important information, or tips and tricks. There's also a common Blacklist. However, classified information often leaves the lounge and falls into peoples hands that it shouldn't.
I think girls work together as much as their trust allows them to, there's a lot of risk personally working a co-op, as much as it would be beneficial.

Sorry for taking up space and quoting your thread..but my short term memory is zero.

As you stated there is personality clashes and defensive posturing that goes on between SP, for what ever reasons(but that happens no matter what, am i correct?)So incases like what you stated you limit the SP to advertising on such a site as i mention and nothing else, you can all scrap it out behind close doors like you do anyways,people are people and there will always be bad apples or jelious people or negative types...so what, i am sure you SP can come up with some type of fair system that allows equal oppurtunity for all.
As to body types and making your living off of it, do you think it is any different for the rest of us in the real world who use our brains/brawn to make our living, lets face it everyone is different and some excel and some dont..may i suggest having different sections on such a site as i mentioned...maybe a section for boob sizes or weight classifications or hair color.My point still stands you all advertise anyways and with or without clashes you still pay others to get your messages out there that you are open to taking clients.Why not come to the simple conclusion that you all pay, why not pay into a collective pot?
If you really think about it it isnt that far reaching to think you all could monitor yourselves...(susi seems like an advocate for all SP,find a women you can all trust or maybe vote in new moderaters every six months so that everyone gets an equal shot at being represented)I am not saying give them the power to ban other SP but more along the lines of a problem solver between girls/guys..if need be.It would be a resource sharing advertising site....not a review board...so the chances of anyone posting shit about another girl would not be tolerated....and like you stated there is sharing going on between you all anyways and your concern seems to be some info leaks ...dont post shit about others that would cause drama.

My point is simple, why not reduce your costs and come together(as you do on so many other sites already but one in which you all control)

 

[treveller]

Association

I suggest you look at http://www.wccsip.ca/BCCEC.html , a page for the BC Coalition of Experiential Communities. It deals with what sort of association might benefit everyone and prevent the sort of abuse that seems to be coming from the Alberta government.

As for a COOP bulletin board, I havn't heard much complaint about the costs for this board. If the costs are too high you only need to establish a credible threat that you will move enmass to another board and that should bring the rates down here.

As it is, the women who go for the higher end advertising seem to be paying for this board and I thank them.

 

[FortunateOne]

These sp only forums already exist on more than one board. The offer has been extended to all legitimate escorts who qualify are able to join. The private area allows for the kind of networking described. There is no reason for itooam1 to think he has just suddenly came up with a brand new idea that sps are too insular, catty and competitive to want to participate on.

Perb is one of the few review forums that does not offer a private sp area. There are plenty of others that do. Some sps may be more comfortable on a site that is focused more on their location. There are review boards in Alberta, Ontario, and BC that provide this service to sps. Female sps, in case itooam1 is looking for access

 

[itooam1]

Jana....
"I personally believe that us all chipping into one pot, where we each have ultimate control over OURSELVES, but someone NOT in the industry has global control is the way to go. Less risk, more reward."

I have read and reread your posts and well i dont understand.I am talking about a place that allows you to have control over your advertisments and maybe a resource guide for all or any SP.
I am not talking about the alberta goverment making you pay to use your VAGINA....rather just the opposite, it seems you PAY everyone to advertise(which you have no control over price and seems to benefit others)If you all banded together you could say get sponsors because of the high draw value(maybe),thus maybe costing nothing for SP advertising over all.

Treveller..... i took a look at the link you posted and well it seems to be more a coalition for changes in law...although i think thats great, my post was really just to do with advertising and sharing resources ,not trying to change the laws regarding SPing.(interesting site all the same)

 

[itooam1]

Fortunate One.......do you always have to come of like an ass?
I am not talking review board..i am talking advertising and since you are so hip to SPing tell me one single board that is run by SPs
Sure there are free sites like SP411, and i am sure perb at one point was free, but since there god than you when it comes to all knowing maybe you should tell me the way it is..ohh sorry you always do....silly me ( you mean it not a brand new original idea...shit!!!!! i thought i was just asking a QUESTION?)

 

[FortunateOne]

There are TON's of places that offer free advertising, without having to put in the effort of maintaining a hosting website. And I don't mean friggen craigslist. I have control because I decide what is put in the ad and which pictures and what not, and it's all 100% free. Sometimes there's a small matter of banner exchange, but that is minor. You're bright idea already exists.

Exactly what I said

Sps creating and maintaining a website for this purpose would be like a drop in the bucket. There are already a ton of sites around that provide this service for advertising plus private areas. It would be like all the auto dealers who advertise in the Buy&Sells Autotrader banding together and creating their own paper for their ads. Why on earth would they when there are already well-established sites with a lot of traffic?

Perb doesn't prescreen the ads, the sps have the right to be DNR (which perb respects), and they can also have offensive posts and threads removed appropriately. There is no private area here, but these other things are not offered on many other sites. There is already an "sp friendly" site which doesn't allow bad reviews, only positive recommendations. It also has a private area, plus advertising. Why would an sp (or group of) go to the expense, time and trouble of reinventing the wheel.

 

[susi]

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Treveller..... i took a look at the link you posted and well it seems to be more a coalition for changes in law...although i think thats great, my post was really just to do with advertising and sharing resources ,not trying to change the laws regarding SPing.(interesting site all the same)

coop business models support exactly the idea you are talking about.

coop- a business arising out of a need identified by a community or group in which a cooperatively run business could address that need.

coop's are run by their membership, owned by their membership,profited on by their memberhsip and all decisions are voted on- read the terms of reference for the coop.

the idea is that the coop is an umbrella corp under which a number of enterprises can operate and be controlled by the members . this is not to say a street worker or exotic dancer would have say over a website owned and operated by escorts. only those involved in the business activities of a particular enterprise would have a say and be allowed to vote on decisions.

the enterprises listed on the site are intended to support the girls working on the street in finding alternative income sources and being safe at work...

however, the cafe will be licensed and we intend to put on parties for fight night, sex worker rights day, poker night....you get the picture. this will create space for exotic dancers to have jobs as well as the brothel project looks like it will encompass web cam, escorting, incall, etc and be a place where any sp can rent a room to work or come in and spend some time doing webcam or could have some one book her calls for her etc.....

so coop- exactly what you described- sex workers helping sex workers empowering each other and becoming a community in control of their collective destinies....

 

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I know for me, I'm not cool with how licensing works in Alberta right now...Why?? Well, I would be paying the government $3000+/year for them to give me the RIGHT to do what I want with my body. I would have to report on a monthly basis, the money I took in, from where and from whom. I would constantly have to carry around an ID with my full name, and my working name on it, with clients included. (Safety issue). I would have the fact that I worked as a prostitute show up on any records check done for me. So, if i decided I wanted to get out of the business, and work for say, criminal justice, I wouldn't get the job, because i had previously been a prostitute, licensed or not. What does the government do for me for 3000+ a year?? Absolutely nothing, except prevent me from having to pay a bigger fine. There is no monthly newsletter with bad dates, no condom tips or discounts, or even an easier time getting into the clinic to get tested. Essentially, the government would be profitting off of my VAGINA. They would be like my pimp.

Taking money and offering no assistance? Wow, what a bully. Also, isn't that in violation of the criminal law that prohibits living off the avails of a prostitute? Would it be possible to take the Alberta provincial government to the Supreme Court? This is really so ridiculous that I'm speechless.