should reviews that exclude any race be banned?

[fastmustang]

well for the most part i can respect that, however we will always disagree cause i still believe that disallowing whites has a lot to do with race.

smackyo, this is SFMIKE's experiences at micros.

~cut~
But, that being said, when I first started calling these places I did encounter a language barrier. If I contact one of these places on the phone and they can not even give me directions to their location, I cannot go there anyway, nor do I wish to go there.

So, I kept calling and found that communication was much less of a problem than I had originally expected.

~cut~

Instead of insisting racism, why not get a few pointers from him if you're interested in asian micros.

wouldn't it make more sense for the micro owner to say "don't tell too many people, just some of your close friends." as opposed to "asians only" if they want to control the traffic of the place?

LOL, and how would you like them to word that in the papers?
Shhhhh, just between you and me buddy, don't tell anyone?

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Jesus Christ, you guys. This has nothing to do with racism. I personally know a couple Ex-Micro operators. The reason why some of them prefer Asian client only is that once the general (any race/colour) pooning population is aware of their operation, they are swarmed with calls and traffic which often lead them to be busted (Seoul comes to mind). This is the only reason, not because you are white or black or green. So if wanting to keep their operations under the radar is considered racism then so be it. Better than getting busted, don't you think?

I agree. There are probably many reasons micros don't want Caucasians around.

1. The girls who are not from here as a rule, may feel nervous or ill-equipped to communicate with them.

2. The Asian community, especially recent immigrants are more discreet, and other than here on Perb, will only communicate their hangouts amongst one another. Call it cliquish or club mentality, but it is about everything they do every day or the manner they socialize in. Why should sex be any different?

3. The owners are nervous about their shady business, and feel that the discretion they use is less likely to bring any heat around. Many owners are Mom and Pop shops, and they worry that trouble could come in the way of fear of Immigration violations (some are not citizens yet) and the fear of consequences, gang scrutiny, City Bylaw infractions, and a general preference to keep a low profile. They also don't want to have their names in the media, as this could tarnish their standing among friends and relatives.

There could be a myriad of other reasons, but these are the principal ones...

 

[stryker]

I agree. There are probably many reasons micros don't want Caucasians around.

1. The girls who are not from here as a rule, may feel nervous or ill-equipped to communicate with them.

2. The Asian community, especially recent immigrants are more discreet, and other than here on Perb, will only communicate their hangouts amongst one another. Call it cliquish or club mentality, but it is about everything they do every day or the manner they socialize in. Why should sex be any different?

3. The owners are nervous about their shady business, and feel that the discretion they use is less likely to bring any heat around. Many owners are Mom and Pop shops, and they worry that trouble could come in the way of fear of Immigration violations (some are not citizens yet) and the fear of consequences, gang scrutiny, City Bylaw infractions, and a general preference to keep a low profile. They also don't want to have their names in the media, as this could tarnish their standing among friends and relatives.

There could be a myriad of other reasons, but these are the principal ones...

Yoh ho ho and a keg o rum,,,well said yar farken Pirate!!!
Me tinks dat be clue yer fansy now eh??Mebe tis time ta shuv da pole over da side me tinks.

 

[smackyo]

You think it is racism because you can almost smell segregation, can't you?

I would let them know that this asian only thing may not be the only answer to keeping under the radar. Except they have no plans to get back into the business after being busted twice which was around the time that they claim they started receiving a lot of phone calls in English. Coincidence or not, you decide.

well let me put it to ya like this then. have places that allow asians only been busted? yeah i'm sure they have. if they are worried about LE does that mean that the vpd or rcmp have no asian members? also its possible that once they started receiving "english" calls they had been in biz for a long time already and its a good posibility they were already under investigation. it probibly takes a long time for "roung eye" to catch wind of these places with those kinds of racist policies in place. so once the english calls started coming they had already been doing their thing for a while. which is why once they started getting english phone calls the place went down.

also lets not forget that not all english calls are "gwi lo's" there are lots of "banana's", "twinkies", and "cbc's" that speak english and no mandarin or cantonese or any other asian language for that matter.

 

[smackyo]

smackyo, this is SFMIKE's experiences at micros.



Instead of insisting racism, why not get a few pointers from him if you're interested in asian micros.



LOL, and how would you like them to word that in the papers?
Shhhhh, just between you and me buddy, don't tell anyone?

i'm not really interrested in asian micro's, i'm interrested in ridding the world of racist bullshit. instead of going through all that trouble i'll just go to swan.

also i wasn't talking about print adds. they would probibly word it all in chinese anyway so that would keep round eye away for the most part. what i'm talking about is the interaction between the owner and someone that was just there, in terms of instead just telling the guy asians only he could say people you trust. doesn't this make more sense? theres a lot of asian people in this city that i would trust over whites and that is a fact. also with that being said there are a lot snakes out there that happen to be ethnically asian as well.

what i'm not cool with is bringing that old world racist bullshit to this country when they come. in my opinion they are more then welcome to come here. this country needs immigration to survive, but leave all that "cultural superiority", and "old world" racist shit in the place you left. that goes for any culture coming here from anywhere.

 

[Sweetiepie]

So, Smackyo, are you arguing that SW's and SP's have no right to refuse service to any guys they just don't want to have sex with? The implications of your proposal are frightening. Its like, HELLO, we're talking physical intimacy here. She shouldn't have to justify her choices to anyone!!

 

[fastmustang]

i'm not really interrested in asian micro's, i'm interrested in ridding the world of racist bullshit. instead of going through all that trouble i'll just go to swan. ~cut~

Oh man, you mean to tell us you've never even tried to goto a micro? So all this racism stink you've raised is just hearsay? Dude, go try a micro first then complain. Get someone to hook you up or something. F*ck, I want my 20 minutes back.

 

[fastmustang]

So, Smackyo, are you arguing that SW's and SP's have no right to refuse service to any guys they just don't want to have sex with? The implications of your proposal are frightening. Its like, HELLO, we're talking physical intimacy here. She shouldn't have to justify her choices to anyone!!

I absolutely agree.

 

[BIGblackstudd]

i'm not really interrested in asian micro's, i'm interrested in ridding the world of racist bullshit.

If that's true, what would do you have to say about this:

Most NBA and NFL players are black, so it's entirely predictable that most of the assholes would be black too, and that most news stories would be about them.

As far as this topic, I think that women regardless of race, have the right to choose who they see. If they're not comfortable seeing whites, that's entirely up to them. I've seen advertising from white female sp's that said, "white's only" too, no problem there either. It's their choice.

 

[Sweetiepie]

Then would you also ask that sp's who have age or gender specifications (male clients only, for example) get banned from here for discrimination? Because that's what the logical extension is. Nobody's answered that.

 

[Sweetiepie]

But even if that were true (which I don't think it is) how would you justify telling anyone that its compulsory to have sex with anyone? Isn't it their right to just say no without having to justify why?

 

[BIGblackstudd]

But even if that were true (which I don't think it is) how would you justify telling anyone that its compulsory to have sex with anyone? Isn't it their right to just say no without having to justify why?

Absolutely!

 

[smackyo]

If that's true, what would do you have to say about this:


As far as this topic, I think that women regardless of race, have the right to choose who they see. If they're not comfortable seeing whites, that's entirely up to them. I've seen advertising from white female sp's that said, "white's only" too, no problem there either. It's their choice.

aahhh for one thing that quote is not taken from something that i said, but if you read it, it doesn't sound like its racist. what the author of that comment is trying to say is that the majority of players in both basketball and football are black. yes folks this is a fact.

now with every group of people you have your stand up good decent people and your degenerate jerk pricks. that being said if most of the men playing these two sports happen to be black then there is a good posibility that the stories about the pricks are going to end up being black because there is more of them. its the law of averages.

take a look at hockey. most of the players are white with a very small minority of first nations and blacks. so logic would dictate that any stories you hear about the pricks in hockey there is a good posibility that they will be white.

just like richmond, everytime you see a car accident in richmond it is usually two asian drivers. thats because the majority of people in richmond about 70% are asian, therefore more of them on the road hence the posibility of seeing two asian drivers in an accident in richmond is greater then other ethnic groups.

 

[smackyo]

Oh man, you mean to tell us you've never even tried to goto a micro? So all this racism stink you've raised is just hearsay? Dude, go try a micro first then complain. Get someone to hook you up or something. F*ck, I want my 20 minutes back.

even if i wanted to go to one, how could i with all the exclusionary bullshit policies they have?????? also it is not hersay. you know how many times i have heard on this board "oh and they say asians only" its not based on hersay unless these people are lying.

 

[georgebushmoron]

even if i wanted to go to one, how could i with all the exclusionary bullshit policies they have?????? also it is not hersay. you know how many times i have heard on this board "oh and they say asians only" its not based on hersay unless these people are lying.

hey if you don't care to go to one, then what do you care if they don't let you in? Are you on some kind of moral crusade or something?

If a chick doesn't like your skin color, the way you smell, the way you talk, or anything else, it's her right not to service you. It's never your right to demand sex by paying money (or any other means). It's her perogative and entirely her choice, just the same as it is your's who you choose to have sex with. It's not racism, it's merely a personal choice.

If she belongs to an establishment that only caters to one ethnicity then who cares. There's plenty of other providers out there. Why get upset? Do you like getting upset? Are you stupid or what.

 

[mick_eight]

Remember the Boxer rebellion

The rebellion was started by small slights and mixed communications between whites and asians....I see similar problems here,please stop. Its not worth it.

 

[smackyo]

hey if you don't care to go to one, then what do you care if they don't let you in? Are you on some kind of moral crusade or something?

If a chick doesn't like your skin color, the way you smell, the way you talk, or anything else, it's her right not to service you. It's never your right to demand sex by paying money (or any other means). It's her perogative and entirely her choice, just the same as it is your's who you choose to have sex with. It's not racism, it's merely a personal choice.

If she belongs to an establishment that only caters to one ethnicity then who cares. There's plenty of other providers out there. Why get upset? Do you like getting upset? Are you stupid or what.

are YOU stupid or what? no i don't like getting upset and i'm taking a stand on something that i think goes beyond "personal choice" here alright. i'm taking a stand on something that pisses me off. i highly doubt that any "asians only" micro is just about personal choice and has absolutely nothing to do with race. so your point being what????? if i was black in alabama in the 50's and didn't take the bus should i still think its wrong to have to give my seat for whitey???????

also some of the intemacy goes out the window once money is exchanged. should a woman sleep with anyone whatsoever because money is exchanged? no i don't think so. so how bout you ease up a bit cause i've seen you go on rants before about something you believed and i wasn't the one to call you stupid.

also yes i am on a moral crusade, SO FUCKING WHAT!

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Not racist practice

I'm not sure if my opinion is worth much, so here goes.

I don't believe Micro- and AMPs are conducting a business built on racism. I think it's just a preference; for many reasons listed in this thread. I or other SPs don't cry racism when potential clients post their preference for a particular ehtnicity of an SP. Is that racist? No, it's just their preference.

However, I feel posts should be removed that have derogatory remarks about whatever ethnicity is targetted in the thread. But there is a fine line where a dergogatory comment is considered a stereotype or educated observation.

 

[smackyo]

I'm not sure if my opinion is worth much, so here goes.

I don't believe Micro- and AMPs are conducting a business built on racism. I think it's just a preference; for many reasons listed in this thread. I or other SPs don't cry racism when potential clients post their preference for a particular ehtnicity of an SP. Is that racist? No, it's just their preference.

However, I feel posts should be removed that have derogatory remarks about whatever ethnicity is targetted in the thread. But there is a fine line where a dergogatory comment is considered a stereotype or educated observation.

of course you opinion is respected here.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Don't mean to debunk that theory MG, but here goes. From my own experience, I've only met one Asian girl who complained about me. On the other hand, I heard more frequent complaints on the Caucasian side. My experience ratio of Asian girls versus White girls is about 90:10. I once dated a small Chinese girl who weighed about seventy pounds. She was so slim, she only had nipples for tits. Contrarily, she was very capable to take in all of my humble eight inches. In fact she also preferred not using K-Y even though she was more often dry than not. My current Asian SO weighs in at ninety pounds, and I think she could easily take ten inches, if I was so disadvantaged.

Size or depth is not necessarily related to race.