I typically hand an envelope and there are SPs who seem to trust me when I leave it on the counter. Other times she needs to count out the exact amount in front of me before going into another room to get ready before coming out to see me again. I prefer the experience when I can just leave it on the counter and not have to mention it so it feels more natural.
Should an SP count out the donation in front of you before starting a session?
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I prefer they count it in front of me. If they go to another room, they could come back and say you shorted them $50. In fact, my real preference is that I count it in front of them one bill at a time as I am giving it to them. That seems to set the right tone for the engagement.
I've never experienced (nor heard of) a SP do that. If they do, it is very discrete and don't make it obvious that is what they are doing.
If I was a new client it wouldn't be an issue for me. I also would think that when the client is having a shower is the perfect time for counting. To be honest I have no issues with it either way. I once shorted my regular sp and did not realize it until I found extra cash in my pocket. Nor did she call or text about it. I made up for it and then some on the next meeting. I try my best to have it in an envelope now days.
Exactly the way it should be done in my view. No smart SP should make it possible for a client to short pay her by not counting the fee in front of him or better having him count it out as he gives it to her. Neither does she like the idea of coming out from another room and either having to tell the client he is $20 short or pretend she didn't notice and live with being short $20 for that booking in order not to embarrass him if it was unintentional.
Envelopes are old fashioned and even make some SP's suspicious of the client wondering why he's putting it in an envelope.
I feel more comfortable if the cash is counted right away. I don't use an envelope. A session with an SP is a business transaction, and I've never seen any reason to try to make it seem like something else. That doesn't mean the transaction can't be friendly, even affectionate.
I still have my big yellow bowl, and I prefer to have the donation placed in it discreetly at the beginning of each session. I have been shorted a few times accidentally by $20. I recently was accidentally shorted by someone here for World Cup; he called to inquire later, and I brushed it off. I have also been shorted deliberately by someone who insisted he'd counted the donation 3 times; apparently he counted that one $50 as two every time! :doh: THAT won't happen again, because fool me once. etc.
I had a new to the biz SP count it out like a bank teller would and it made me smile. I'm accustomed to the donation either just sitting there the entire time or her putting it away out of sight.
It was the second time I had seen her and had put an additional $50 in there to which she removed stating "you've paid too much". I said I knew there was an additional $50 and it was intended as a tip.
Subsequent visits I put an iTunes card or a prepaid Visa which she happily accepted.
It was the second time I had seen her and had put an additional $50 in there to which she removed stating "you've paid too much". I said I knew there was an additional $50 and it was intended as a tip.
Subsequent visits I put an iTunes card or a prepaid Visa which she happily accepted.
Should they count? Absolutely yes. It's good business to make sure the client isn't ripping you off.
I've only had a SP count the money twice since I started this. The first was several years ago at Madam Cleo's and the service was shit. The second was with Yumiko at an asian micro a few weeks ago.
All the other SP's I've seen (I'm figuring about 40-50 by now) have never counted the money. But I have standards, I don't go for the cheap ones that look like crack addicts looking for their next fix. I flat out refuse to see < $80 HH SP's, and even then I'm rather choosy. I suspect the quality of the SP plays a major factor here, and I think they also make a judgement call when you arrive at their door. If you look like a creep they probably count it out to make sure. Being in this business for even a short while I'm sure they get a very good sense of clients as soon as they arrive and make a judgement call. Others probably have to (i.e. micro's) as several people are involved in the location and they want to make sure everything adds up properly in their books.
I've only had a SP count the money twice since I started this. The first was several years ago at Madam Cleo's and the service was shit. The second was with Yumiko at an asian micro a few weeks ago.
All the other SP's I've seen (I'm figuring about 40-50 by now) have never counted the money. But I have standards, I don't go for the cheap ones that look like crack addicts looking for their next fix. I flat out refuse to see < $80 HH SP's, and even then I'm rather choosy. I suspect the quality of the SP plays a major factor here, and I think they also make a judgement call when you arrive at their door. If you look like a creep they probably count it out to make sure. Being in this business for even a short while I'm sure they get a very good sense of clients as soon as they arrive and make a judgement call. Others probably have to (i.e. micro's) as several people are involved in the location and they want to make sure everything adds up properly in their books.
but then is the time they are taking to check the bills with a black light and to write you a receipt part of the session time too, like the shower? or does your time start after?
Hey if they're writing receipts maybe they can just bill my extended insurance carrier directlybut then is the time they are taking to check the bills with a black light and to write you a receipt part of the session time too, like the shower? or does your time start after?
lol at the irony of this statement and your forum name.but then is the time they are taking to check the bills with a black light and to write you a receipt part of the session time too, like the shower? or does your time start after?
personally I prefer that anyone under any circumstances count out a payment, easy enough to make a mistake and why carry the reputation of someone who might be considered a cheater
anyone who deals with people, customers, will have seen all sorts of behavior, deliberately short, accidental, too much, etc..... why not keep the business side of the transaction in a business like fashion so you can enjoy the service side of the visit without any other considerations than service....
just a thought to pass along...
once had a situation where with a SP I had a particularly strong connection with didn't realize I had yet to pay and I only realized it in the elevator while the door was closing. Got out rather embarrassed and knocked on the door and gave the payment. She said she didn't care and knew I would pay it next time.
nice to develop that kind of trust with each other.....
I have had far more awkward moments with friends than anything I have experienced with the SPs I have seen, (shared dinner tab where someone deliberately took advantage of everyone's casual attitude for instance...) Bad memory re paying up a small debt, borrowing things and claiming they have returned (books and such)
did have an angry Asian amp girl refuse to give me change when I paid..... I didn't go for her rate pitch and settled for something more modest, another regular customer showed up and wanted a duo and she missed out on a big tip.... she was so pissed at me totally unprofessional and short sighted, as with a lot of Asians, she missed the concept of repeat happy customers and focused on her short term sense of loss
nice to develop that kind of trust with each other.....
I have had far more awkward moments with friends than anything I have experienced with the SPs I have seen, (shared dinner tab where someone deliberately took advantage of everyone's casual attitude for instance...) Bad memory re paying up a small debt, borrowing things and claiming they have returned (books and such)
did have an angry Asian amp girl refuse to give me change when I paid..... I didn't go for her rate pitch and settled for something more modest, another regular customer showed up and wanted a duo and she missed out on a big tip.... she was so pissed at me totally unprofessional and short sighted, as with a lot of Asians, she missed the concept of repeat happy customers and focused on her short term sense of loss
Okay this might be unusual but when I have an SP visit me either in my hotel or at my condo, I leave it on the edge of the counter for her fanned out so that every bill can be easily seen and counted. When I am visiting an SP at her location I pull the wad of bills out and count it and hand it to her if that is her request. If she doesn't make the request, or asks me to leave the fee on the hall table or elsewhere I count them out aloud and leave them where I was asked to. I have never handing an escort an envelope but if I was asked ahead of the visit I would but I would record on my phone myself counting the bills out and sealing the envelope and mark it. Call me paranoid but without a transaction receipt there is no way I would want to hand something in a closed envelope without documenting it.
Point taken. My bad. A disconnect between the brain and fingers. Well spotted.Oh, is that why there are so many SPs at UBC? I think learning to count your "donation" without getting caught would be a better elective than some of the ones they currently offer.
Honestly though there's way too much paranoia in this thread. Recording yourself counting out the bills on your phone... jesus. What sort of escorts are you seeing when you think they are going to risk losing a chance at repeat business to extort an extra $20 or $50 off of you.
My apologies, it was a superfluous post on my part, I'm just grumpy tonight.
