Seattle Prostitution Bust

[daddywarbucks]

You Canadian Perberts don't know how lucky you are. Prostitution is somewhat legal.

Garden of Eden was busted and local TV and Radio are calling it a major bust. They go on to say they got the customer list and it shows men that work for all the major companies in the area.

I wonder if they are going to try to get them to go to "john" school.

How many in this holiday season are now dreading the phone call to the SO or the summons from the boss.

Thank the lord I travel north. Impossible for the spur of the moment, but never have to sweat that phone call.

DWB

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Did GoE have a client list hangin' around? oh boy....

 

[BS Detector]

No kidding Alex. Can you spell P-A-P-E-R S-H-R-E-D-D-E-R! BTW sweetie, You can e-mail, PM, Phone or even just drop in ANYTIME!

 

[daddywarbucks]

UPDATE

Just watched a dectective with the King County Sheriffs Office interviewed on KIRO-TV. He said, "We retrieved the computer records with the names and the work phone numbers of "Hundreds and hundreds of men", and we will be calling on each and every one of them. I believe that it will be easy to convince the prosecutors office to bring charges against them."

The report went on to say that GofE needed the work phone numbers to make sure that they we not dealing with LE. They would call to reconfirm a dental appointment.

DWB

 

[BS Detector]

On the bright side Paige, You wouldn't have much competition there!

 

[PATRIOT]

Paige remember that they probaly have you info as well, if that agency have the men's info they sure have yours. You could have problems at customs on your way to the USA in the future.They don't need much to not let you in and they won't tell you why just send you back.
This gos to show you when booking an SP at an agency block your number because I am sure they keep that info if they have call display.

Just may opinion.
Patriot

 

[daddywarbucks]

ADVENTURER

I had not read your message prior to my last post.

That is the way it is in Canada or for that matter in most Commonwealth countriesand maybe even in MP's in the States. I never partake in the rub and tug part of the market.

However if you want FS, agency or independent, either incall or out call, in the Puget Sound, you are going to have to provide references i.e. other SPs and prove your bonifides. GofE wasn't a MP, but a high class escort service which provided out call and incall in various locations around the Seattle area. Therefore, I believe that GofE could have had the records.

Right now are you sure that if LE showed up at your door with a warrent, you wouldn't have something on your hard drive that you wouldn't want the world to see??????????????????

DWB

 

[daddywarbucks]

Adverturer

If I only gave GofE my first name they would refuse to book an appointment for me. If I gave them a false name, and they called and were told that no one by that name worked there; or I gave them someone elses name and they didn't have any record of an appointment of any type at 3:00 PM tomorrow no only would no one show up for the appointment, a warning would be put out on the SP forum.

I don't know if Paige or Boston or any of the other SPs that as the detective put it "are special attractions from Vancouver" want to weigh in and let the Perberts know how it is in the puritanical (sp) USA.

As I said when I opened this thread, I am glad I do my pooning in BC. Don't have to worry that my SO will be embrassed or that I will lose any business.

DWB

 

[sirlickheralot]

Re: Think this one through folks.....

Firstly, unless this insane agency had an auditting fetish.....all they have is a record of men that made appointments and perhaps the amount they paid. Surely they did not keep a detailed account of the services provided for $$$$ paid! Hence, whatever they have is hearsay......and yes, they may roust people.....but only to try and either get a few of the ladies to testify or to get a few of the clients to testify.

Exactly Spk106, this is just a pathetic scare tactic by the US Gestapo. They tell the media that they have the client records and may prosecute and past clients become nervous, and potential clients become paranoid and maybe a few less people use escort services. This tactic is more about instilling fear in potential clients than law enforcement.

Realistically what prosecutor is going to want to go into court with a name and phone number in a book or on a computer as the basis for their entire case. This evidence is hardly incriminating enough to make it an easy case to win. I suppose they could try bluffing and tell people that if they don't go to john school they will prosecute them. I doubt if any clients from these records will ever go to trial.

 

[sushiman]

Hmmm

I know it's early but there will be elections in the subject area within the next year. Maybe there is someone looking forward to extending his/her stay in public office.

Think about it.

 

[chris222]

Let me repeat a point which has already been made. In Seattle, escort agencies do indeed keep records of the full names, phone numbers, addresses, etc of clients.

And independent escorts there expect references. That is, they will want you to either provide a bunch of info about yourself so that they can check to see that you are who you say you are, or they will want you to provide the names of other escorts you have seen, so the other escorts can verify you, or both.

This is done in an attempt to make it difficult for law enforcement to bust them, and in an attempt to keep away violent or otherwise troublesome clients.

Now, having said all that, there is no way the police will really be able to arrest any of the clients. A name and address and phone number on a list, or even financial records showing that money was paid to an escort service, does not prove that anything illegal happened. There has to be proof of sex exchanged for money, and a name on a list is certainly not proof of that.

Perhaps the men on the list were paying the women to play backgammon with them.

However, I expect that the police might contact some of the clients, in an attempt to scare them into testifying against the escort agency.

 

[Hit Man]

What a monumental waste of taxpayer's $$$$. Just think about it. All the hours LE put in getting intel to conduct a raid. The time and effort of booking whomever was arrested. Prosecutor's time getting ready for a trial and picking a jury. Judge and court personnel time during the trial. Subsequent appeals and retrials due to hung juries, mistrial declarations. All for a victimless crime. That just runs me hot!!

 

[daddywarbucks]

KNOCK KNOCK

Chris222

While I agree that it will be hard to prosecute the clients unless the owners roll over, how would you like the vice squad comming to your place of work during the day or worst yet, your home in the evening.

Can't you see it now....sitting in your iving room, in front of the Xmas tree, with your SO at your side, being questioned by the vice squad about you paying a prostitute for sex.

As to prosecution, the owners have been busted befor and KIRO radio is reporting the IRS is interested for possible under reporting of income. If they can get them to roll over on the clients, what a windfall for King County. Fines of $1,000 per incident of paying for sex or offering to pay for sex.

Come to think about it, King County is broke. Maybe now we know why the bust took place.

DWB

 

[dittman]

I used goe one time gave first name and no work number no problem, besides if le has their little black book, nothing they can do to the client list, i k now nothing i see nothing i hear nothing.

 

[drromance]

Ohh well, its guilty by association only, the agency has your number because they tried to sell you a service which you did not buy, lets see the credit card stub, cheque stub etc, failure to prove their case should leave them open to suit for wrongfull arrest or harrassment.
lots of le in the us have nothing better to do than hassel average citizens to get big press for their boss. specially just before election time

 

[sirlickheralot]

Re: KNOCK KNOCK

While I agree that it will be hard to prosecute the clients unless the owners roll over, how would you like the vice squad comming to your place of work during the day or worst yet, your home in the evening.

Can't you see it now....sitting in your iving room, in front of the Xmas tree, with your SO at your side, being questioned by the vice squad about you paying a prostitute for sex.

If they came to my front door I'd tell them to arrest me or Fuck off. They have no right to go into anyones house and they would have a very hard time acquiring a search warrant based on finding your name and phone # in an Escort agencies records. As for questioning you, why would anyone cooperate with their pathetic fishing expedition. People should just pull a Sgt. Schultz "I know notheeeng!!!".

In the end the only people who are going to take the long arm of the law up the ass are the agency owners. I can't see the prosecutor letting the agency owners walk on the much more serious charges of running a prostitution ring and potentially tax evasion just for their testimony against the clients involved.

 

[BabyBelle]

Aren't there plenty more escort agencies in Seattle?

Hearing all this sounds so weird.. We have so many agencies and such, here in Vancouver.. and it's never been that big of a deal at all..

 

[Privan]

Aren't there plenty more escort agencies in Seattle?

Hearing all this sounds so weird.. We have so many agencies and such, here in Vancouver.. and it's never been that big of a deal at all..

As Ms. Paige said, there are different laws. In Canada an escort is (with few exceptions) entitled to work as discussed on this board, legally. As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, I think licensing isn't required by law in some situations/cities if not everywhere.

In the United States it's 100% illegal. That's why terms such as "Greek", "French", "Russian", etc... were created. Using those terms providers and clients could discuss services, and should anyone hear them, or perhaps one party be caught by a law enforcement official, there was a degree of legal freedom to work with. You could say the conversation was a discussion over foreign languages you were hoping to learn/teach/practice with another person. (Just an example)

 

[daddywarbucks]

The Review Board.net

just tried to Access the review board in Seattle. Got bounced 5 times. LE must have shut them down.

DWB

 

[southsound]

What is really stupid about this is that we are talking about a city who's budget is so blown that they had to dip into emergency funds to keep the streetlights on for the rest of the year.

Somehow they have plenty of resources to investigate victimless crime?