Punishment at School(Elementry)

[Kevin101]

Okay so my little cousin who is roughly around 6-7 gets in trouble quite frequently at school (mainly for swearing) and he gets his punishment at home as well as in school. The punishment that his school gives the children that go to that school is pretty . They sit in this room what is called a "study room" or something and basically they just do work. They can't go out for recess or lunch but they can have their lunch in that room haha. They sit in it for the entire day. His last punishment that he received from his parents at home was... he got banned from his bike for a week, got sent into a spare room where they is only a bed for an hr(no TV or toys) and he had to write "I will not do this again" on a blank piece of paper both sides.

On Friday his class went to swimming but he wasn't allowed to go because he had got in trouble so he spent the entire day in the "study room". Now today his class is going to some children fun park or something while he [would] have to stay in the study room again. He lost his permission slip so his dad went into talk to his teacher and say it was okay for him to go. Well it wasn't OK for him to go because he is not allowed to go because of what happened on Thursday or Friday.

Do you guys think that this is fair?

That he would have to spend two entire days in a room doing work and he isn't allowed to play with his friends let alone isn't aloud to go to both field trips because of what happened on Thursday/Friday???

I think it is total BS that he would have to spend the entire day in the study room while his friends are at the field trip. It is probably going to be the "talk of the week". He would be so left out and feel like "shit". I think he is still going because his dad flip shit at his teacher this morning and told him that he is going, I will take you their myself. Hopefully he runs into the teacher. HAHA.

On a side note this is elementry school. The years that all kids should be outside and having fun with their friends and making new ones. This is the kind of punishment that people received at my Middle school and that was only for half the day. At lunch they were free.

 

[blazejowski]

I hate to be the bad guy, but if ya can't do the time, don't do the crime...

If kids don't get punished, they just push the boundaries farther and farther, especially if they realize there is no consequences to their actions...

 

[Kevin101]

I hate to be the bad guy, but if ya can't do the time, don't do the crime...

If kids don't get punished, they just push the boundaries farther and farther, especially if they realize there is no consequences to their actions...

Oh he gets it at home... I actually have seen it. It is pretty rough.

Spending the entire day in a room with no friends... isn't that enough?

 

[HB40]

Spending the entire day in a room with no friends... isn't that enough?

No, I think he should have to cut the grass too.

 

[Kevin101]

No, I think he should have to cut the grass too.

Lol, still going on about that huh?

*Sigh*...

Kevin101 - is a whiny little bitch when he has to cut the grass, but he will cross oceans to get to his fave SP.

Mans gatta do what a mans gatta do

 

[blazejowski]

I am just going over some of the "bad kids" from my youth. They started out swearing, then mouthing off, then it went to smoking, stealing, drugs, etc, etc.
It just snowballs from there - not saying it will with this kid, mind you - but it's a slippery slope.

Hopefully the punishment will give his head a shake. I am glad to hear he gets punished at home. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's passive parents. If your kid's out of line, spank them! It pissed me off to no end seeing these pussywhipped parents do nothing while their kids run rampant in the stores, terrorizing everything around them, and the parents do sweet F.A.

If I was ever bad when I was young, you bet your sweet ass I got a spanking, and guess what, I learned my lesson...

 

[Kevin101]

Nope, I don't see it as extreme. He's old enough to know not to swear in school.

His punishment at home seems more extreme to me, but if he won't stop doing it and nothings working maybe the parents should get him evaluated by a shrink to see if maybe he's acting out for attention because he feels alone or unloved.

Well what else is he supposed to do when someone else swears at you? Let it be? and out of the two HE was the only one that got in trouble.

Forgot to add that part in.

He never swears at home or with his cousins. He has older and younger ones too. He doesn't feel alone or unloved. WTF, unloved?! lmfao.

 

[FortunateOne]

It will just be an ongoing problem unless they can curb it now. Used to be they sent them home; not very helpful at all, since the kid really needs to be in school doing school work. It is usually (like handing out ritalin like candy) an example of what is easiest for the teacher not what will benefit the student. This method is way better than what my nephew went thru: they would kick him out of school 1-3 days at a time. This is when he is 8, 9, 10.

Eventually, he had to attend the alternative school, because he had missed so much classes he couldn't participate when he did get back in class. The alternative classes usually only take place half a day, so kids with problems maintaining a schedule and 15-16 years old would be left to their own devices for half of every school day. Needless to say the drop out rate is higher than most.

Keeping them at school, under lock down, seems a far better option than that.

 

[Kevin101]

I am just going over some of the "bad kids" from my youth. They started out swearing, then mouthing off, then it went to smoking, stealing, drugs, etc, etc.
It just snowballs from there - not saying it will with this kid, mind you - but it's a slippery slope.

Hopefully the punishment will give his head a shake. I am glad to hear he gets punished at home. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's passive parents. If your kid's out of line, spank them! It pissed me off to no end seeing these pussywhipped parents do nothing while their kids run rampant in the stores, terrorizing everything around them, and the parents do sweet F.A.

If I was ever bad when I was young, you bet your sweet ass I got a spanking, and guess what, I learned my lesson...

I totally agree with you.

But I guess this is the whole point of the thread.

He should be alowed to go to the field trip today. The one that was on Friday, yea okay his parents let that one by but two field trips when the incident that occured 5 days ago thats BS.

I got taught "being nice" the hard way. I've gotten a beating from my parents like twice and yea I learnt my lesson aswell and here I am today. I can say that I am a pretty respectful person and I got people who can back me up.

 

[srjinbc]

I have a 6 year old in the Delta school system. Similar punishments apply there. If she mibehaves she misses field trips and sits in with other classes to continue her studies. I remove luxuries at my home as punishment but at her mothers place there is no punishment.
On a related note Delta Scool Board also believe that the students social structure is more important. So when my ex's son failed grade 7 they pushed him on to 8 to be with his friends. He failed every course in 8 and the school refused to hold him back because he would be picked on by his friends. He has since dropped out. He is now 19 and cant get work because of the lack of education and his so called FRIENDS have gotten him into meth.
The school system in this province is seriosly flawed and is turning out uneducated and an unprepared generation of kids

 

[Thatotherguy]

I think the punishment at school is incredibly appropriate. It teaches him that there are consequences to his actions, and it ensures that he's doing his school work. So he can't go on the field trip with all of his friends. Well, maybe he should have thought of that before breaking the school rules.

The only thing that's remotely unfair is that the other kid who was doing the same thing didn't get punished. If it was the other kid's first offense, however, then it's understandable and fair that he didn't get the same punishment.

 

[DQ Guy]

Maybe the problem isn't just with the kid....
Sure the parents punish him at home. But where does he get all the
language from?.. maybe mom and dad should practice what they preach.

Now I'm not saying they're bad parents, hell I have no idea who they are..
but at that age most things come from the parents/family..
just a thought

 

[srjinbc]

DQ hit it on the head. Kids are victims of environment. I personally believe that there are no bad kids just bad parents. My daughter is great when she is at my place and that has alot to do with me doing stuff with her and making her the main focus. At her moms house Im told she has a bad attitude, wont listen and just does what she pleases. Opposite ends of the parenting scale me thinks

 

[sirlickheralot]

Okay so my little cousin who is roughly around 6-7 gets in trouble quite frequently at school (mainly for swearing) and he gets his punishment at home as well as in school.

He should be alowed to go to the field trip today. The one that was on Friday, yea okay his parents let that one by but two field trips when the incident that occured 5 days ago thats BS.

If he keeps repeating the same bad behaviour then obviously the previous punishments weren't severe enough to make an impression. Maybe missing two field trips will finally make an impression on him and smarten him up.

When I was your cousins age I went to catholic school and if you got caught swearing the principal would come and give you the strap in front of your entire class. Seeing what punishment was in store for you if you misbehaved definately made an impression. Very few kids swore at school and even fewer were stupid enough to do it twice.

 

[blazejowski]

If he keeps repeating the same bad behaviour then obviously the previous punishments weren't severe enough to make an impression. Maybe missing two field trips will finally make an impression on him and smarten him up.

When I was your cousins age I went to catholic school and if you got caught swearing the principal would come and give you the strap in front of your entire class. Seeing what punishment was in store for you if you misbehaved definately made an impression. Very few kids swore at school and even fewer were stupid enough to do it twice.

Exactly....
Wolfman approves....

 

[moi]

When I was a kindy teacher I had a student that swore, hit other kids and tried to rip up their assignments. I spanked him and threatened to send him to the "dark room" (closet). Finally he kept doing it until I actually put him there and he smartened up. His parents weren't any help either, they were way to lenient with him and yelled at me for making him write "I will not play in class" for homework. It has ALOT to do with the parenting. Do they allow him to watch movies with violence and swear words? Video games? All these come into factor.

 

[Kevin101]

It has ALOT to do with the parenting. Do they allow him to watch movies with violence and swear words? Video games? All these come into factor.

Nope. None of that. His parents don't swear infront of him eaither. I think they are pretty good parents. Strict and actually follow through. He too is also afraid of the "dark room".

 

[necko]

I accidently hit a teacher in grade 9 and got caned across my back a dozen times. He was trying to break up a fight between me and another boy,and I hit him and knock him down. Shit I'm glad those days are gown(spelling)

 

[wet_suit_one]

How is that all you pooners got such a fine, well disciplined upbringing and now you're sp's and pooners?

I mean WTF?

Heck, WTF explains me. Honour student, never lipped off, never did drug, now I'm a poon fiend.

Like WTF?

Go figure... I guess.

This is my kind of bad though. Pussy galore and no downsides.

 

[melissa.in.abby]

When I was a kindy teacher I had a student that swore, hit other kids and tried to rip up their assignments. I spanked him and threatened to send him to the "dark room" (closet).

Are you saying that when you were a kindergarten teacher you spanked a kid? what year was this? isn't that against the law?

Anyways, Kevin: no it doesn't seem extreme, but I am hoping they are also using appropriate positive reinforcement. Is he in sports and other extracurricular activities?