With the economy slowing down and the price sticker shocks everywhere including this hobby. I am curious as to whether you all spend as much on SW as before. I'm also curious from the SW perspective if overall business has dropped.
Pooning and the economy
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Very active thread on this topic covered just recently.
Cutting back due to the economy? | Vancouver Escorts Review Board Forum | Perb
Not sure if anything has changed dramatically since September '23.
Cutting back due to the economy? | Vancouver Escorts Review Board Forum | Perb
Not sure if anything has changed dramatically since September '23.
In order for this thread to stay open, I’d suggest members not whine about the prices being charged by women and the supply side prices rising.
A better discussion would be about what has changed for men. I am more interested in the demand side change. The demand side being men and why are some more able to afford to participate? Is it more of a struggle to keep up for the members whom are married/divorced/partnered/dads?
For example, as more men choose to stay single and avoid the financial costs of marriage, children, divorce, child and spousal support, are those members able to meet the supply side rising prices? Are todays generation of younger men without the traditional expenses aligned to marriage now just redistributing it to this hobby and not feeling the surge in costs to play?
I am convinced women charge only what the market can bear. Men being the demand side, do not seem to care imo, or the supply side prices would be falling.
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Some folks make more money, have more discretionary income to enjoy whatever floats their boat. I for one am not overthinking this.
I really think the 6 pages of posts in the prior thread pretty much beat the topic to death.
It's all offer and demand.
We have not seen as many ladies coming back to the industry after the shock of COVID. The industry has shifted ever so slightly which allows the ladies to be more selective and increase their rates . If you compound to that the inflation with rents and miscellaneous charges ( advertising, etc) you have ....
Ex . Pre COVID a Leolist page with the search engine set at 27 / 28 years old . A 4 hour old ad would be transferred/bumped to the 2nd page or even slightly quicker on a Friday. Nowadays it's 6 to 7 hours before the ad disappears to the 2nd page . Offer down ... demand stable ...price goes up .
We went over this not that long ago as stated earlier by others
We have not seen as many ladies coming back to the industry after the shock of COVID. The industry has shifted ever so slightly which allows the ladies to be more selective and increase their rates . If you compound to that the inflation with rents and miscellaneous charges ( advertising, etc) you have ....
Ex . Pre COVID a Leolist page with the search engine set at 27 / 28 years old . A 4 hour old ad would be transferred/bumped to the 2nd page or even slightly quicker on a Friday. Nowadays it's 6 to 7 hours before the ad disappears to the 2nd page . Offer down ... demand stable ...price goes up .
We went over this not that long ago as stated earlier by others
I stick to ladies I trust. Period.
I spend a lot of time on the road.
One of the hotels has upped their rate 50% since last summer! Same for a lot of places I used to eat out at. It’s so ridiculous I started making meals in my room and pocketing the allowance.
Touring ladies have to work really hard because they’re on a thin margin. Sadly a lot of my favourites quit travelling.
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I should be cutting back due to my situation, but in the last few weeks I’ve spent more than I have for quite a few months. I justify my visiting an SP on money I somehow manage to pull out of nowhere. But this needs to stop now, because due to my desires I will always find a way to rationalize going again if I’m not careful. Even the SP that I’ve visited a lot lately is trying to talk some sense into me about the situation, and I think this time it worked. But yes, my plan is to just learn how to pace myself for this season, and any money that I do manage to save because I know if I cut out certain things that I can easily waste money on ( eating out, coffee, etc), I would rather spend that on seeing an SP that I enjoy. And like a lot of others have stated stick to the tried tested and true. Why try to fix something that isn’t broken?
I like to do research where I try to find the best outcome for a great experience but even then it could still be not as great as I wished it would be. If I were to see ladies at random on a consistent basis I would go down a money depleting rabbit hole of mixed experiences. The last thing I want is forgetful memories. I want memories to keep my fantasies going until the next experience.
Some on here go through a line up of randoms before they hit a winner. That style is a costly adventure. Even though thats not my style I do miss out on the facts of seeing that next wow amateur feeling experience. Its like if you were to enjoy time at a local agency but only go once in a blue moon you end up missing out on chances of seeing first timer greats that might only be in the game for such a short time.
Imagine being a penny pincher to find out some hot girl that you used to fantasize about like crazy from your school days used to work at a local agency but has now quit and moved on. Maybe she was working to make some fast cash for university schooling or whatever. You had the chance to see her but instead you missed out over money worries. Now you look back beating your brain with this thought that you would of drained your bank on her if you knew that chance was available. Thats more of a dream scenario but in this game you have to pay to see whats behind door number 1, 2 or 3.
Not missing out on the new in the game providers is one of the benifits I see when it comes to having the cash flow to see as many providers as you can on a consistent basis. The ones that stick around you can wait for but many of the new provider talent that is available can come and go at the drop of hat at any giving day. I remember back at an old agency it was like a goldmine for ladies making cash for university schooling. So many in and out of the game.
One chance to have a dance better move fast.
Even when I take my time for the next adventure I still get hit in the feels knowing I am missing out on all that shoulda coulda woulda action.
In the end you have to pay to play.
You can penny pinch, wait and research until the cows come home but that doesnt mean you are gauranteed a great experience. Unless you stick to your usual greats every new adventure is a gamble.
Care to gamble? The choice is yours!
You can get with this, or you can get with that.
Some on here go through a line up of randoms before they hit a winner. That style is a costly adventure. Even though thats not my style I do miss out on the facts of seeing that next wow amateur feeling experience. Its like if you were to enjoy time at a local agency but only go once in a blue moon you end up missing out on chances of seeing first timer greats that might only be in the game for such a short time.
Imagine being a penny pincher to find out some hot girl that you used to fantasize about like crazy from your school days used to work at a local agency but has now quit and moved on. Maybe she was working to make some fast cash for university schooling or whatever. You had the chance to see her but instead you missed out over money worries. Now you look back beating your brain with this thought that you would of drained your bank on her if you knew that chance was available. Thats more of a dream scenario but in this game you have to pay to see whats behind door number 1, 2 or 3.
Not missing out on the new in the game providers is one of the benifits I see when it comes to having the cash flow to see as many providers as you can on a consistent basis. The ones that stick around you can wait for but many of the new provider talent that is available can come and go at the drop of hat at any giving day. I remember back at an old agency it was like a goldmine for ladies making cash for university schooling. So many in and out of the game.
One chance to have a dance better move fast.
Even when I take my time for the next adventure I still get hit in the feels knowing I am missing out on all that shoulda coulda woulda action.
In the end you have to pay to play.
You can penny pinch, wait and research until the cows come home but that doesnt mean you are gauranteed a great experience. Unless you stick to your usual greats every new adventure is a gamble.
Care to gamble? The choice is yours!
You can get with this, or you can get with that.
I'm fortunate enough to have the money to enjoy this hobby as much as I want but I've had a hard time finding options that meet what I'm looking for. I've also been let down by some providers not being what they were advertised to be, and had an incident with a provider I reviewed trying to expose my identity, so now I'm not sure how discreet this hobby really is. I have a couple of favourite girls I see semi regularly, but I also enjoy the variety this hobby brings and mixing things up by trying new providers in between visits with my regular ones. I've been spending more of my hobby money on sugar dating lately. It takes a bit more time upfront, but I find it easier to what I like that way and I'm not let down as much.I believe there will always be a demand for escorts because it is the most convenient way to pay for sex.
I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'm curious about the demand side. When I look to book with providers on platforms like Tryst, their schedules often appear to be quite wide open, even for last-minute appointments. This makes me question how many clients they actually see, and if there is really a ton of demand. It seems that only the popular girls who work part-time at agencies get booked up quickly.
I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'm curious about the demand side. When I look to book with providers on platforms like Tryst, their schedules often appear to be quite wide open, even for last-minute appointments. This makes me question how many clients they actually see, and if there is really a ton of demand. It seems that only the popular girls who work part-time at agencies get booked up quickly.
I think people might misinterpret the schedule on Tryst. Many indys use that to show the days they are generally available for prebooked appts, it’s not updated daily as bookings come in, like you might see on an agency website.
So a provider may have every day of the week checked available all the time, but that doesn’t mean they’re not already booked for those days. It just means they prefer to work on those days and the unchecked days are times they're unavailable.
There’s also that green “available” dot, which some use to indicate they’re taking appointments last min, but it stays on for 4 hours unless we turn it off, so if we get booked up and don’t remember to turn it off, you might interpret that as not busy.
Busy also means different things to different providers. Some have other jobs or school or family obligations, or simply prefer to be low volume, so although Tryst shows that they’re available every day, that doesn’t indicate that they’re available all day for back to back sessions. Sometimes 1 a day means busy.
I do think demand naturally wanes at certain times of the year, and has definitely been affected by the economy. However I also think that people always find a way to spare the money for the things they want. For the providers who have a good base of regular dependable clients and the clients who have regular dependable providers, not much has changed except maybe frequency of visits.
I wasn't referring to the schedule listed on Tryst. Instead, I was talking about when I message providers to ask about their availability for the week or specific days. They usually have very open availability when I message them.
I'm pretty sure some of them are just acting busier than they actually are. Actually, I know for a fact that some of them are definitely doing that.
If a girl is charging 500 bucks for an hour, she just needs to see two clients a week to be doing alright.
I know some girls who post "FMTY" dates, but in reality, they just flew themselves out to another city to hang out with friends, family, or just to treat themselves. Same goes for gifts , they bought them for themselves but act like some generous guy got it for them. It's tough to know what's real and what's not. And although they probably have some "regular clients," how often they actually see them is pretty rare.
Many of the guys with money to burn on escorts don't actually need to, as they are in high demand and can easily have sex for free, when they do ite because they dont have much spare time. Plus, there are plenty of girls who are having sex for money without calling themselves escorts, or advertising themselves as escorts.
There are countless random girls in Vancouver with just 1000 Instagram followers living a more luxurious lifestyle than most escorts. So we can assume that the lavish lifestyle is being funded by a man in nine out of ten cases.
If a girl is charging 500 bucks for an hour, she just needs to see two clients a week to be doing alright.
I know some girls who post "FMTY" dates, but in reality, they just flew themselves out to another city to hang out with friends, family, or just to treat themselves. Same goes for gifts , they bought them for themselves but act like some generous guy got it for them. It's tough to know what's real and what's not. And although they probably have some "regular clients," how often they actually see them is pretty rare.
Many of the guys with money to burn on escorts don't actually need to, as they are in high demand and can easily have sex for free, when they do ite because they dont have much spare time. Plus, there are plenty of girls who are having sex for money without calling themselves escorts, or advertising themselves as escorts.
There are countless random girls in Vancouver with just 1000 Instagram followers living a more luxurious lifestyle than most escorts. So we can assume that the lavish lifestyle is being funded by a man in nine out of ten cases.
There are many MANY on here who are spending $400 and above 3 to 5 times per week on a regular basis . It’s all subjective to how much you make . The best idea is to not concern yourself w how much others go but to instead figure out what’s best for you and your situation so that you can continue to enjoy seeing these ladies for the rest of your life . If you deplete your self in the short term you wont be able to do that .
I myself have a system of once a month in the summer months and once a season for the rest of the yr . It works for me .
ohhh sorry I totally misunderstood how you worded that. I thought you were seeing the checked days as currently available.
Whoops!
White Ninja seems like you have a disciplined approach where you live within your means. I wonder how many guys spend more than they can afford because they have an addiction to the hobby.
Yeah I'd be interested to read more research on this topic. Scientific American had a special issue on Sex some years ago which investigates why do Johns buy sex?
The full list of major US companies slashing staff this year, from Paramount to Google and Microsoft (msn.com)
In the SP 's mind this mean men have more time on their hands to poon. Always thinking positive.
In the SP 's mind this mean men have more time on their hands to poon. Always thinking positive.
