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Bears

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Hey all,

Bears here. I'm new to the forum, and so far I've found it to be a very helpful resource. If I'm making any mistakes with this post, please do let me know.

Introduction:

First things first: I'm a 21 year-old virgin looking to have my first time with an escort. Yup.

A few words about the whole virgin thing, just to shed some light on the situation:
(Skip the next few paragraphs if you're not interested in storytime).

My one girlfriend near the end of high school was super cute but Catholic, and though we fooled around, we never had sex. Right now, I go to a big name college in the US and I'm fairly busy with schoolwork, research, music, etc--I don't have the time or the interest for a real relationship and none of the girls I could reasonably hook up with from going out are very attractive to me. When one of my music friends asked me out a few weeks ago, I didn't feel any attraction for her throughout the entire date and felt pretty bad (for myself and for her) when I just hugged her and left after walking her back to her dorm.

So recently, I started thinking about losing my virginity to an escort. I'm confident in my views about human sexuality, and I don't see myself being internally insecure or ashamed about this afterwards.

Ultimately, I'd much rather lose it to a girl I found very attractive--who would be patient and show me a good time--instead of sticking it in some poor girl I could barely get hard for in the bathroom of the frat house for all of 10 seconds and then never see again afterwards except for the occasional awkward "hi" across the campus courtyard. I'd like to experience sex, and if it's not going to be emotionally laden either way, why not have it be as good as I can get?

Phew. Hope the long-winded explanation didn't annoy you away. On to business:

Preferences

I've done a little bit of snooping around on the site, and I'm not confident I found the information I needed, so I'm reaching out for some help. I understand that a lot of the depth of this forum comes from individuals taking the initiative to meet various girls and take some risks in order to share their experiences with others. Given my circumstances, however, I can't be relying on trial and error, seeing as I'm only going to have one first time. And I'd very much like to avoid the horror stories or disappointments that seem to be unsettlingly common in this industry.

These are some of the things I'm looking for/care about in a girl (I know, it's pretty long... excuse my pickiness)

Here's what I'm looking for, physically speaking:
- white girl with a cute, attractive face. Beautiful eyes.
- natural perky breasts (the hottest pair I've seen were 34C, but they don't have to be that big)
- on the shorter side (I'm pretty short)
- relatively thin/fit or a spinner, though not skeletal. Heavy girls aren't my personal preference.
- 18-24. I'm talking real age here. Willing to relax this a little as long as she doesn't look significantly older.

In terms of attitude and service, I'm looking for something like a GFE. I want to have the girl show and feel engagement and connection rather than be a lifeless or bored doll. On the other hand, I want her to talk and act in a genuine way--not with some over-the-top affectation of enthusiasm. I don't really know how long I'd last, but I would very much prefer not being rushed to finish. I'm hoping I can go for round two (MSOG) and focus on giving her pleasure too--I'd love it if the girl could offer some pointers or advice on how to be better and make her feel good too. As far as the acronyms are concerned, DATY, BBBJ, MFK or DFK, and if possible CIM are all things I like (not sure if I got those right).

Recommendations/advice/information

Wow, that's a lot of text. Thanks so much if you're still reading.
I've come up with a preliminary handful of girls--Octavia Ross, Lexi Ross, Ysabel Amore--that perhaps might fit my needs. Even from various reviews, though, I couldn't get a solid feel for if they would even be into this kind of thing :p. I know a lot of girls prefer older guys than me, and fucking a virgin probably isn't on the top of anyone's wish list. And I also don't know what their faces look like, which is kind of a big deal at least for me. My personal "type" is more for super cute and pretty looking girls with a great smile over also attractive but intense "model" kind of face. Don't know if that's at all a good description..

I would sincerely appreciate any recommendations, thoughts on any of the girls I've mentioned, or just any advice in general.

That goes for you too, providers ;). I don't know if any of you are as picky as I am, but I thought I should just add: I'm fairly fit and toned--definitely no bodybuilder, but I've been hitting the gym recently and I'm not a slob. (Full disclosure: I have been variously reviewed by girls I've hooked up/made out with as "cute," "adorable," "Shut up and kiss me," and "Why are you asking me this? I haven't seen you since like 7th grade.")

Okay, I should really stop typing. Apologies if I've committed any grievous faux-pas in this thread.
Thanks, really, for your help. :)

Bears
 

jzee

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Sorry Bears - couldn't actually read the whole thing but based on my quick browse I think you are in the right ball park with Octavia and Lexi
 

rlock

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I've come up with a preliminary handful of girls--Octavia Ross, Lexi Ross, Ysabel Amore--that perhaps might fit my needs.
All three of these seem to suit your needs. Ysabel has small breasts, though - if that matters to you.
 

wildthings

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I would recommend a psychiatrist. You have problems that an escort isn't going to fix for you. They sell experiences, and you're asking for something more.

Seriously. I feel bad for the escort you are going to choose.

I also don't think a single escort in Vancouver is going to satisfy your physical requirements. That's not a knock on your requirements, you're requirements are actually very fair, rather it's a knock on the available talent in this city. Hint: there's no talent here.
 

51shades

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i think you should still bang those girls interested in you..if they are not too too bad...
dont waste food! haha
 

burcs

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"ymmv"
You sound very well-versed but as a virgin, you should realize your potential shortcomings as someone who doesn't know his control yet. Not a knack against you but it goes for everyone, don't overblow your expectations. Your descriptions of your preferences sound like something out of a porno; well there's going to be a lot of disappointments.

It helps to be "fairly fit and tone" and "not a slob" but so as long as you're respectable and have good hygiene anyone would be happy to provide for you.
 

chitown

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You can find girls who match the appearance you've specified. For example, I've seen Ysabel Amore and she certainly ticks those boxes. Attractive, not too tall, young, blonde, skinny, perky breasts, although they're not all that big.

The bigger issue though is the GFE. With vising SPs, the experience is very much YMMV. Some people have a great time with a girl and will lavish nothing but praises but another pooner could see the same girl and say she's a waste of time. A lot of it is due to chemisty. Sometimes you just click with a person and sometimes you don't. You could be with the most beautiful girl you've ever seen and still be disappointed if you don't click.

Since you're a virgin, you probably have a lot of expectations, and it's going to be hard for anybody to live up to them. I don't want to be pessimistic, but odds are your first experience will not be as great was you imagine it to be in your head.

So, what can you do to make it as good as it can be? Well, a couple of things. First off, I'd suggest booking a longer session. Two hours, maybe more. It gives you more time to get comfortable and settled in with the girl, and it's much less likely for the girl to be watching the clock when you book a long session. Trust me, you can tell when a girl is obviously trying to hurry things along because she's got another appointment in 20 minutes, and she just wants you out of the room so she can clean up.

Secondly, you said that how good looking the girl's face is very important to you. If that's the case, don't be afraid to just back out once you meet the girl at the door. Don't be insulting, but be honest. Tell them they're not what you're looking for, apologize for the time wasted, and leave a tip to be polite. If you feel disappointed by how the girl looks don't think "I might as well, I'm already here." If you're disappointed the girl can usually tell, and it'll just make the session more awkward.

Lastly, you also said that you want the girl to take the lead. You may want to consider seeing the more experienced ladies, rather than the young girls. Check around perb for the well reviewed ones, look in the ads section, especially the ladies who have their own websites. It's up to you whether or not the age difference is a bigger issue than the taking charge.
 

Humptydumpty

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Best way to find out is to text, call or email a few of the girls, get a dialogue going, explain your situation.

After a few emails and calls you may find you have one you seem to click with a little better than the others.

Good luck dude.
 

wetnose

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Didn't read all of your post, OP...but good for you starting early. I lost my virginity to a SP @ 26 (wanted to be a good boy and believed in true love, etc etc) and still regret it to this day.
 

Edward Lei

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Can't help but agree with poonerboi and wildthings.

Save your money and keep banging those campus girls. That's what 98% of us on here would rather do.
 

Lenzarz47

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I'm going to agree with a majority of those responding. Specifically, you don't necessarily have to see someone who's a 10 in your mind.
Seeing a psych is a good idea, too. Wildthings is right in saying a lot of SPs only sell experiences. You may be let down due to expectations you may have gotten from the media, from porn, whatever. If it's your first time, it's going to be awkward. Finding a Lady who knows your situation (like previously suggested) will help; a longer session would be better too, so you two can become a bit more acquainted than: hello, shower, deed, and leave. When you connect with someone, it doesn't matter what they look like. Connecting is what makes or breaks a majority of Pooners' experiences, and why some reviews can be so, so varied. I recall reading a couple posts from SPs who said they were honored to be so-and-so's first. I don't remember who, but just know there are providers you're better off seeing than randoms you pick from wherever.

I originally wanted to keep my post short because having too much on your mind might not help. When you find the right Lady, just relax, and take it slow.

edit: EdwardLei is also totally right, I'd be doing that if I could. lol
 

burcs

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"ymmv"
I do echo that my first time with an sp was an awkward experience and I couldn't get hard, or maintain, or pop
And this was with a very hot Korean lady imo

My first time ever not with my own hand, was also an awkward experience and opted for a handjob at the end.

So either way don't have high expectations. Good luck and let us know what ends up happening
I didn't want to be as blunt seeing as OP had grand plans for MSOG and CIM already but this is definitely a more likely scenario.
 

Bears

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Hey everyone, just an update:

First, thanks for all the help and advice!
I went for a walk this morning, thought about it, and decided I'm not going to see an escort. It doesn't really bother me that I'm still a virgin and unless I'm going to be consistently hiring escorts from now on, I don't see my life drastically changing just from losing my virginity right now. Also, while I do have some money from summer internships, etc, it's nice to be saving it for myself.

I'm a little surprised and taken back by the psychiatrist recommendations--though maybe that confusion comes along with the problems you guys are seeing. Still, though, I'm unsure why exactly I would need to see a psychiatrist--a little more specificity would help. I don't feel offended or defensive--I would seriously consider it once I better understood the reason. Is it that I don't want to have sex with the girls that I don't find that attractive? Or is it that I should be finding more girls attractive or at least wanting to have sex with them than I am? Then again, maybe I just have a misunderstanding about the kinds of things for which it's good to see a psychiatrist.

Anyways, I went out downtown later in the day, approached a bunch of girls/women (civilians, not sex workers) on the street and actually got a few phone numbers. I'm setting up some dates as we speak, and planning on meeting more people, getting more digits and dates, and hopefully at some point I'll meet a girl where the chemistry is there and it goes well enough that I get to pop the cherry too. Not trying to rush it though, I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

Just wanted to say thanks again to all of you--you helped me clear this out in my mind, seriously. :)

Peace,

Bears
 

burcs

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"ymmv"
They were pretty off-hand remarks and I think you can ignore those recommending psychiatric help.

You don't mind being a virgin, but it does sound like you're eager to have sex. I think you can be both of those things at the same time. I'd caution against gaming for sex, it can change you as a person. If you think seeing an escort would be a one-of thing, I'd suggest you just do it and get it out of the way, but it's always easier said than done too.
 
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