Perb isnt fun anymore & isnt useful anymore

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Ticketyboo

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[NOT CRITICIZING THE MODS]

This site isn't fun anymore
Half the lounge posts get shut down
Half the reviews and 411's get shut down or disappear
Clearly only one (extreme) ideology is tolerated here.

NOT CRITICIZING THE MODS
BUT
WHEN YOUR A HAMMER, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL.

Why bother writing reviews, contributing, or participating in discussions when there's a 50/50 chance our efforts will be erased without explanation.

I'm not alone in feeling this way - many members share my frustration and uncertainty
there are other sites and communities us perb members engage in.

As a long-time online enthusiast, I've seen my fair share of forums and moderation style
With decades of experience on various online communities and forums, I can confidently say that this platform's moderation is by far the most heavy-handed I've encountered.

I'm aware that this thread may not last long, but I'm taking a chance to appeal to the moderators: could you consider exercising a bit more flexibility in your moderation approach?

SIGNED,
A mild mannered, 10+ year PERB vet who is expressing my frustrations.
The fact that this post "that isn't critizing the mods" hasn't been taken down is indicative of the rationality of the mods.

Find me a better site and I'll go but until then perbs been a useful tool and the more users the more helpful it becomes.
 

Class

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Rules are rules, and if people can’t follow them then move on. What I find frustrating is comments from individuals that are speculation or assumption and not based upon experience or real knowledge. Then there are those always asking the same questions or not looking for the answer or researching for themselves.
 

Harmony-bc

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😮 It's not a good sign when the other side of the fence is saying this. I've also noticed a drop in the number of ads on LL. Guess the squeeze is starting to show.
Leo list in the last year or two has raised their rates by almost triple and your ad goes off page 1 in 40 minutes due to all the scammers leolist allows on their site. I used to bump my ads a few times a day but now I bump my 6 ads every few days and prefer to just use other platforms. But I still get clients from there so I bump once in a while. My preferred date uses the search function on leolist.

Perb, tryst, and Twitter are where I concentrate my advertising efforts now
 

Equity Market investor

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Honestly, Its bizarre why ladies even bother with LeoList given all the fake scam ads --- bumping up every other ad past existance ---and price increase complaints. And then clients wonder why they get scammed by booking with leolist.
I never read clients being ripped off from all the ladies who are on perb.
I'm beginning to see a few Asian agencies jumping onto Perb lately. What took them so long lol?
I'm surprised a lot more aren't jumping on to be honest. I don't bother with Leo list.


Leo list in the last year or two has raised their rates by almost triple and your ad goes off page 1 in 40 minutes due to all the scammers leolist allows on their site. I used to bump my ads a few times a day but now I bump my 6 ads every few days and prefer to just use other platforms. But I still get clients from there so I bump once in a while. My preferred date uses the search function on leolist.

Perb, tryst, and Twitter are where I concentrate my advertising efforts now
 

Harmony-bc

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Honestly, Its bizarre why ladies even bother with LeoList given all the fake scam ads --- bumping up every other ad past existance ---and price increase complaints. And then clients wonder why they get scammed by booking with leolist.
I never read clients being ripped off from all the ladies who are on perb.
I'm beginning to see a few Asian agencies jumping onto Perb lately. What took them so long lol?
I'm surprised a lot more aren't jumping on to be honest. I don't bother with Leo list.
We really have a lack of advertising options. I started with a free website, an ad in the georgia straight, eros ($40 a month back then), perb, and a canadian website (also $40). My advertisng costs per month was less than $300 and it was busy. Now I spend around a g and none of them are as busy as sites of old lol. I'm grateful tho, that I still do ok in a crazy market.
 

MrUbstoppable

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Perb is way way better than some other options out there. If you’ve ever used CAF Reviews you’ll know what I’m talking about.

I feel this site’s been run fairly well, and always able to find what’s needed, especially with the search function
 

annievilleneuve26

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If the OP doesn't find it fun or useful then wtf is he doing here? Or at least the trolling part is fun enough for him to stay. On a very personal level I think this board is a pleasant entertainment.

I drop a review every once in a while when I think it can be useful... I read much more than I post and since I tend to stick to the same kind of business I'm more here for the entertainment part than the useful part...
 

Equity Market investor

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I remember you one of those other sites, as well as here. Why do you think it's not as busy as once was --- as you said below. Perb??


We really have a lack of advertising options. I started with a free website, an ad in the georgia straight, eros ($40 a month back then), perb, and a canadian website (also $40). My advertisng costs per month was less than $300 and it was busy. Now I spend around a g and none of them are as busy as sites of old lol. I'm grateful tho, that I still do ok in a crazy market.
 

Harmony-bc

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I remember you one of those other sites, as well as here. Why do you think it's not as busy as once was --- as you said below. Perb??
I think we live in a city where the average rent for a 1 bedroom is $2500. There are way more ladies in the business than there ever was. Sex work looks like a great option when you're struggling to make rent with a "normal" job. It's really sad what's happening in the world. But that's a topic for another chat. I'm very grateful I have so many regulars.
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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[NOT CRITICIZING THE MODS]

This site isn't fun anymore
Half the lounge posts get shut down
Half the reviews and 411's get shut down or disappear
Clearly only one (extreme) ideology is tolerated here.

NOT CRITICIZING THE MODS
BUT
WHEN YOUR A HAMMER, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL.

Why bother writing reviews, contributing, or participating in discussions when there's a 50/50 chance our efforts will be erased without explanation.

I'm not alone in feeling this way - many members share my frustration and uncertainty
there are other sites and communities us perb members engage in.

As a long-time online enthusiast, I've seen my fair share of forums and moderation style
With decades of experience on various online communities and forums, I can confidently say that this platform's moderation is by far the most heavy-handed I've encountered.

I'm aware that this thread may not last long, but I'm taking a chance to appeal to the moderators: could you consider exercising a bit more flexibility in your moderation approach?

SIGNED,
A mild mannered, 10+ year PERB vet who is expressing my frustrations.


LOL - this reads like the fool in old-school online chatrooms who just has to come back and announce to everybody that he "is leaving chat (for good) ".


At least when SP's are preparing to 'retire' from this biz, they can boost their income in the near term from the announcement, so such a move makes sense.


Mature males preparing to check-out of PERB for the last time have no reason to announce it to the world.


In case the OP doesn't understand the obvious... nobody ever said or promised you that PERB itself was supposed to be "fun".

The main purpose of PERB is to facilitate "fun" that takes place elsewhere.


How come you couldn't figure that out before you got yourself banned?
 

PuntMeister

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For over 20 years I have seen the ebbs and flows of PERB. I am still here. The ERB part of PERB is THE best resource for pooners. Period. Full stop. Just like good government, PERB is still of the pooners, by the pooners, for the pooners.

I have found seductive gems I never would have found otherwise. I have avoided dissappointments that in my horny moments I might have risked, but thanks to the weight of reviews that tell it like it is, I was able to make informed pooning decisions. I have contributed by sharing my faves, ups, downs, avoids, TOFT adventures, and insights, for what they are worth. I do feel part of a great community here. And PERB remains my go-to resource for researching any potential new encounter. Long Live PERB!!!!!!

Yet, that sense of community may not be as strong as it once was. I don’t think our beloved mods have anything to do with this. Demographics have changed. Ad frameworks have changed, People’s attention spans have changed. But I think what has changed the most is that surfing PERB does not give me the feeling that I have just discovered “the secret little engine that could”. Perb / Fred & Co. dared to put this forum out there and see where it went. The early days were the most memorable for me because the vibe was more “chatroomy”. People were conversing, sharing, discovering, laughing, vibing, and having a gas. Chat forums were around but PERB structured it well, kept if free for pooners, and let us into a little dark corner of the sexy world where we could share our naughty laundry and feel part of something bigger than ourselves. Now we seem to fill up PERB with rants, jibes, corrections, divergences, unuseful info, profound posting laziness, and chronically venting about one thing or another. This seems to be the way of social media in general—not a PERB specific infliction.

So how do we get our mojo back? It wouldn’t be Punt-like if I didn’t share a few thoughts on this…

1) Keep on banning the trolls. Make Perbatory even funnier!—like throwing rotten tomatoes at the miscreant in the stocks at the town square. Lay down a badass whooping where we all joyfully release our pent-up frustrations and bash the bastard real good. (Suggestion—separate trolling bans from unpaid ad bans and various other themes, so we can immediately revel in the joy of jerk expulsion)

2) Bring sexy back. There were some AMAZING posts from years gone by. Soooo much more artful than much of today’s drivel. Yet with necro-posting being a no-no, and links to old posts being boring, there’s gold down there, but she’s buried deep. (Suggestion—Start an Alt / Nostalgic Lounge section—not just a thread, where it’s OK to reveal PERB history). Likewise, I get the most joy out of two threads in particular—Innappropriate & Naughty Memes, and the Random Thread). Put these in the Alt lounge too. Funny and moving stuff are birds of a feather. Similarly, Start a Crow 🐦‍⬛ Lounge where we separate the Political and Ranty stuff for when I am having a bad day and feel like I want to stick needles in my eyeballs. I know, I can can choose what to click on, but the current framework waters down my overall experience and my sense of delight vs. disgust is challenged daily.

3).Be the next CL / LL / OF/ Tryst / yadayada. Seriously, a separate ad site that had the easily browsable categories, visuals, and INTEGRITY of PERB MODERATION to eliminate the scamming BS would be my go to forcTalent surfing. For some reason, PERB ads just doesn’t work for me within a forum style engine, and the most surfable ad sites have either gone tits-up or gave become a scamarchy! (Suggestion—diversify to a propper ad site. Acquire or startup). I kno, easy for me to say. But I can wish nonetheless.

4) Bring that sense of PERB purpose back. Why does PERB exist? What does it stand for? What are its core values? (Suggestion—migrate from many rules threads to something visionary we can all align to. Reinforce this with some dialogue, quippy quotes, or examples daily. Why am I here? This should be the first thing I see when I click on PERB 2.0)

Lovingly,

-Punt.
 

masterpoonhunter

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For over 20 years I have seen the ebbs and flows of PERB. I am still here. The ERB part of PERB is THE best resource for pooners. Period. Full stop. Just like good government, PERB is still of the pooners, by the pooners, for the pooners.

really REALLY great post snipped to save some electrons flowing through the aether

Lovingly,

-Punt.
Terrific post fellow pooner!
I second what you have suggested and although I have been pooning my entire adult life I only discovered Perb 5-6 years ago, why I don't know, just happily pooning in my bubble but ooo eee has this forum ever allowed Big Jim and The Twins to find new lush, delectable landing sites!!
 

sybian

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Sorry, but I have to say I haven't seen a bigger crock of crap in a very long time. First your math is truly fucked up. half? Less than 5%-10% of threads in the lounge get locked and always after everyone has had a chance to have their say, or it's the 100th iteration of what do I do when I see an SP in public or other such trope that's been done to death. Almost no lounge threads are ever deleted. period. As for reviews, again, at most 5-10% are removed, for rule violations, for being fake or insulting, or from a stalker or other valid reason. We get 100s of reviews each week. I cannot recall when even 10 were taken down in a week, it's always single digits. On top of which, posters self delete their reviews all the time, the mods didn't touch those ones at all.

I'll echo MB Mod, the mods here bend over backwards to be fair and will listen to anyone who has a complaint or a question. We have been dealing with an unprecedented run of trolls from a small group of "bros" who all have been banned many times and are spending a LOT of money on VPN services to hide behind. What a surprise, the poster of this idiotic diatribe is using a VPN from overseas from a place never used by another other poster here, ever. Just the very behavior the trolls I mentioned use.

These guys are not welcome here, we do our best to keep getting rid of them when they reveal themselves. They denigrate the ladies, fight with the guys who aren't of a similar age and attitude. Do their reviews get deleted when they get banned? You bet they do. Do their reviews get deleted when they become insulting, abusive and break all kinds of rules? You bet they do. Not going to apologize for that. Feel free to go elsewhere, troll bros, you really won't be missed.
Perb has become a far more user friendly place…..and not filled full of angry basement dwellers acting like 14 year olds with the gamer attitude and soulless stare.
I took my perbatory bans in stride..but was a little insulted when coming back none of the Mods accepted my “friend requests”.
there are far fewer pointless pissing contests now thanks to the management….and as pointed out, it is a private company/website…. and can be run as they see fit.
 
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