With the trade deadline coming up shortly, people have talked about Peter Forsberg being a hot commodity. But interesting enough, if the Florida Panthers decide they are not going to make the playoffs, players such as Gary Roberts and Todd Bertuzzi, who will become unrestricted free agents may be available. If Bertuzzi was available, would you trade a player such as Kesler for Bertuzzi or a prospect that Florida is keen on for Bertuzzi?
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Big Bert coming back to Van.......no bloody way...not a chance in hell!!!KYG said:
And as Far the Forsberg Rumor coming to Van......What a huge mistake that would be!!! His days are done! He's a cancer now!!!!
He's not the player Van needs at this time!!
Bertuzzi can be a cancer but thought it could jump start Naslund. Same with Forsberg but the Canucks could make it future considerations, depending on how many games and points Forsberg gets, depends on the compensation the Flyers would get.
I think going to the playoffs, depth on defence is always crucial. Brad Stuart's asking price by Boston is said to be too high.
For a forward, I wouldn't take Anson Carter back. He hasn't proved anything this year and he had playing time with Rick Nash as well.
I'd like to see Martin Gelinas or a Gary Roberts.
I think going to the playoffs, depth on defence is always crucial. Brad Stuart's asking price by Boston is said to be too high.
For a forward, I wouldn't take Anson Carter back. He hasn't proved anything this year and he had playing time with Rick Nash as well.
I'd like to see Martin Gelinas or a Gary Roberts.
hell no to Buttoozi ... just got rid of the waste-of-space ...
maybe we can ship Naslund off to Florida along with Kesler
and some other pilon for Olli Jokinen ...
Nazzi is worth $6 mill a year and with Kesler injured that's almost
another $2 mill, so there's room to sign Jokinen ...
maybe we can ship Naslund off to Florida along with Kesler
and some other pilon for Olli Jokinen ...
Nazzi is worth $6 mill a year and with Kesler injured that's almost
another $2 mill, so there's room to sign Jokinen ...
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Let's face it guys. Nazzi isn't gonna be here to much longer. I mean It seems to me that his mind and focus isn't here lately! He is a crucial part of these team no doubt but I'm starting to have worries about him going forward.
Every team that rebuilds starts from the goalie and onward.
We have Loungo for 4 years now. To me that means we need new fresh players up front. I'm not saying trade Nazzi because if we did or do it would have to be for someone that could boost this team like how we brought Loungo in and is doing. That caliber of player. We need better forwards up front.
Every team that rebuilds starts from the goalie and onward.
We have Loungo for 4 years now. To me that means we need new fresh players up front. I'm not saying trade Nazzi because if we did or do it would have to be for someone that could boost this team like how we brought Loungo in and is doing. That caliber of player. We need better forwards up front.
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Very true and that's what I mean. It's the chemistry part. It can ruin it too in some cases by bringing in the wrong type of player.Malcolm27 said:
And lets not let it get to our heads.
I mean right now the Nucks are going awesome but .....TO ME... alot of that and I mean alot has to do with Loungo!! I don't think anyone here will deny that.I'm still worried about upfront!
Just my opinion.
since kessler got a offer sheet from philly and the canucks matched, he can not be traded under the new CBA. but now sinc he is injured we get half of his contract back.
so maybe a 2nd round pick and bulis and a guy from the moose for Carter. Get him back with the sisters and we will have a real #1 line.
so maybe a 2nd round pick and bulis and a guy from the moose for Carter. Get him back with the sisters and we will have a real #1 line.
Bertuzzi.....your jokin right??
The problem with Forsberg is this foot issue he deals with....he's missed so much hockey because of it...the upside is when he plays he produces but to get him what are you going to give up to get a guy who might be healthy enough for the run but have to retire at season's end because of his injuries.
Doesn't matter who they pick up they are still goin' down!!
The problem with Forsberg is this foot issue he deals with....he's missed so much hockey because of it...the upside is when he plays he produces but to get him what are you going to give up to get a guy who might be healthy enough for the run but have to retire at season's end because of his injuries.
Doesn't matter who they pick up they are still goin' down!!
Some observations:
1) Canucks need some jam up front and on the back end. Gauthier and Avery would do, and Philly and L.A. are sellers, but please no Tucker the gutless puke. Both need goalies and the Canucks have Ellis, Vincent, Noronen, and Schneider in the system. Wouldn't trade Schneider for either though.
2) The scoring need is obvious but please no Americans (Guerin, Tkachuk another puke) or Euros unless you can unload Bullis as part of the deal. BUT nobody will take Bullis.....that was a horrible, horrible signing. And no Anson Carter PLEASE...9 goals in 46 games is not an upgrade. Glenn Murray from Boston would do...big body, big shot....Boston are sellers and may take Noronen and a pick as they need a goalie and only have Ruusk in the system after fleecing Toronto. Schneider makes sense, he's a local Boston kid, but I would want something in addition to Murray. Hmmm...Murray and Stuart for Schneider and Cooke. Add a 2nd rounder if the Canucks re-sign Stuart.
3) They need leadership, REAL leadership not Naslund and especially not Linden, he's done. Gary Roberts would do but he'll be 41 in May and would prefer to go to Toronto. Nonis should do whatever it takes to sell him on coming here...maybe give him a plum Ontario based scouting position when he's done. (Sorry Lupie!...Gary Lupul does some of that now).
4) They need to improve their depth on 3rd/4th line and at the number 5/6 D. In place of Avery and Gauthier? Hello Marty Gelinas and Steve Montador, a local Vancouver kid, both from Florida. I would do a Cooke/Schneider deal for Roberts, Gelinas, Montador, and a 2nd rounder. Have to get the 2nd rounder if Schneider is part of the deal.
5) Cooke's a piece of shit and takes way too many stupid penalties. Trade him.
6) I have no problem with Todd Bertuzzi, have no objection to him coming back, and especially no problem with what he did to Moore. If you watched the Hab-Penguin game the other day, you saw Souray do the exact same thing sans the 3 or 4 additional bodies piling on. If Brad May, who ironically was described as a warrior by his buddy Bert, would have done his job that fateful night of the Naslund hit, Bertuzzi wouldn't have gotten himself into the mess he did. Two things they didn't teach Moore at Harvard were, first, the law of the jungle, and second, how to take a punch.
7) Peter Forsberg is not coming here.
8) As has been stated, they cannot trade Kesler due to matching Philly's offer and they shouldn't even if that wasn't the case. Big kid, hits, skates well, works hard, great on the PK, VERY popular in the room...every successful team will have a guy like that as it turns out, the $1.9 million doesn't look that bad. They'll miss him.
9) Absolutely do not trade Edler, Bourdon, Grabner, Raymond, or Schneider unless you're getting something significant but DO deal Noronen and Koltsov, who's tearing up the Russian league and quietly still has value around the NHL.
1) Canucks need some jam up front and on the back end. Gauthier and Avery would do, and Philly and L.A. are sellers, but please no Tucker the gutless puke. Both need goalies and the Canucks have Ellis, Vincent, Noronen, and Schneider in the system. Wouldn't trade Schneider for either though.
2) The scoring need is obvious but please no Americans (Guerin, Tkachuk another puke) or Euros unless you can unload Bullis as part of the deal. BUT nobody will take Bullis.....that was a horrible, horrible signing. And no Anson Carter PLEASE...9 goals in 46 games is not an upgrade. Glenn Murray from Boston would do...big body, big shot....Boston are sellers and may take Noronen and a pick as they need a goalie and only have Ruusk in the system after fleecing Toronto. Schneider makes sense, he's a local Boston kid, but I would want something in addition to Murray. Hmmm...Murray and Stuart for Schneider and Cooke. Add a 2nd rounder if the Canucks re-sign Stuart.
3) They need leadership, REAL leadership not Naslund and especially not Linden, he's done. Gary Roberts would do but he'll be 41 in May and would prefer to go to Toronto. Nonis should do whatever it takes to sell him on coming here...maybe give him a plum Ontario based scouting position when he's done. (Sorry Lupie!...Gary Lupul does some of that now).
4) They need to improve their depth on 3rd/4th line and at the number 5/6 D. In place of Avery and Gauthier? Hello Marty Gelinas and Steve Montador, a local Vancouver kid, both from Florida. I would do a Cooke/Schneider deal for Roberts, Gelinas, Montador, and a 2nd rounder. Have to get the 2nd rounder if Schneider is part of the deal.
5) Cooke's a piece of shit and takes way too many stupid penalties. Trade him.
6) I have no problem with Todd Bertuzzi, have no objection to him coming back, and especially no problem with what he did to Moore. If you watched the Hab-Penguin game the other day, you saw Souray do the exact same thing sans the 3 or 4 additional bodies piling on. If Brad May, who ironically was described as a warrior by his buddy Bert, would have done his job that fateful night of the Naslund hit, Bertuzzi wouldn't have gotten himself into the mess he did. Two things they didn't teach Moore at Harvard were, first, the law of the jungle, and second, how to take a punch.
7) Peter Forsberg is not coming here.
8) As has been stated, they cannot trade Kesler due to matching Philly's offer and they shouldn't even if that wasn't the case. Big kid, hits, skates well, works hard, great on the PK, VERY popular in the room...every successful team will have a guy like that as it turns out, the $1.9 million doesn't look that bad. They'll miss him.
9) Absolutely do not trade Edler, Bourdon, Grabner, Raymond, or Schneider unless you're getting something significant but DO deal Noronen and Koltsov, who's tearing up the Russian league and quietly still has value around the NHL.
You're correct but like Koltsov and Chubarov, they can still deal his rights. Pretty attractive for teams to get assets but not have to take on salary for the rest of the year.
Bertuzzi doesn't like the front of the net anymore.....remember last year??E.Humperdink said:
The only way that would work if is he is up for a new contract!!
You mean Mr 6 goals for 1.9 mill??? Useless sack of shit....that's the most $$ he'll ever make in a season so spend it wisely!!KYG said:
Yeah, but it wasn't really Kessler fault about the 1.9 million. It was that piece of shit, Bobby Clarke that gave him that offer sheet. I mean if it was you or me, we'd both accept it so you can't fault Kessler for that.BDAClub said:
Nonis was going to sign him for about 1 million which is fair market value for Kessler.
