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MHUS - SP's with active HUSbands - please explain

logsplitter

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massagelady said:
But the more annoying fact is that most of the time I am right:D
You would be a lot less annoying if you did not show a seeming pompus attitude in your posts. Frankly you are in the sex trade and whether you rub cocks with your hands with your tits showing or whether you rub cocks with your pussy with your tits showing there is only a degree of difference other than your own opinion of differenciation and self richousness.:) You could be a lot less annoying if you saw the rest of us in a more favourable light!:) without judging us as less than you!
 

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massagelady said:
OK...Why don't we just stop personal attacks, and you tell me EXACTLY what was wrong with what I said? (Other than you didn't want to hear it LOL)
I don't intend to be trapped into an endless dialogue. "EXACTLY" you often post hollier than thou replies to threads (to most everyone and everything)!:)
 

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logsplitter said:
....I like to think that the SP....insists on protection with everyone....I seriously doubt that the boyfriend or husband covers up with the party hat for his fun....This is where the whole thing gets a little unsafe....
LS, the way I read your post is that if an SP wants to be "safe", then she shouldn't be seeing any clients who have SO's, because the clients probably have unprotected sex with their SO's. By your logic, would that not put the SP at more of a risk?

There's no possible way for anybody to know if SP's or clients practice safe sex outside of the business. I think that believing that an SP is safer because she doesn't have an SO, is a fallacy.

Pooning is a risky activity no matter what precautions you take. You can drive yourself into paranoia if you get carried away worrying about every possible risk.
 

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massagelady said:
OK. You are a bully and you don't like me;)

You know where the Ignore button is?

LOL
This is most amusing I think. A week ago you stated that U put me on your ignore list. Obviously the ignore button must not work for U so why would I use it?:)
 

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georgebushmoron said:
This is a myth. That true love is like a stalwart stone wall impregnable by all forces such that the beloved can withstand any discomfort is to not understand the nature of love. True love exposes the greatest risk to one's emotional security, and to be able to stay in it the beloved must be able to be assured that they can never be betrayed. True love is synonymous with the greatest insecurity - even the most confident of individuals, when confronted with true love, become insecure puppies. The closer you get to the fire of true love, the greater the feeling you are going to get burned.

In other words, if a couple are not in love at all, have no feelings of love for each other, then the partner will be comfortable even when his SO sells her body.

I have no idea where this popular fool's notion about love comes from. Perhaps too much reality television, for it reeks of Hollywood drama. It completely misunderstands human emotion.
I generally try and stay away from this type of thread, however your lucid post necessitated this response. Well put, My President. This and some recent posts on this subject as well as the SW vs SP argument exposed (imho) such clarity in thinking and honesty that I'd encourage you to volunteer for the mod job. Bravo Mr President.

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maverick73 said:
I've read in several threads now where SP's have husbands... even worse is when their husbands are present during sessions? :eek: :confused:

I don't get it. I can understand an SP having a bf, a separated husband, a divorced husband... but an actual active husband... surely the 2 of them can make a living such that the SP doesn't have to do this. And surely if the relationship is strong they would both not want the SP to do this.

Are there men out there that just get off on the fact that their wife is f$cking a truckload of other men for money? And even like to hear and watch this in an adjacent room?

Just when I thought I'd heard it all on PERB.... it gets more f$cked up every day.
Personally I don't care whether an sp has an SO as it's really none of my business. Don't-ask-don't-tell seem to be the right policy in this regard.

In terms of sp having an active husband, well I have to assume that they discussed the ramifications of her profession thoroughly and came to some kind of understanding. Again none of my business unless in the middle of a session, the husband shows up with a variety of weapons and comes gunning for me :eek:

And yeah there are men out there that gets turned on by his sp wife getting rammed and glazed by strangers and probably the sp wife is enjoying the guilty pleasure of "cheating" on her husband. The psych makeup of what turns us on is as varied as there are people on this planet. I am not surprised nor do I feel sorry for them ... it is just a part of life.
 

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I was married for 9 years and during that time I simply didn't want to be with another woman. My wife used to make money by doing phone sex. What her clients weren't aware of, is that half the time she was stroking my cock while they were stroking theirs, and they wanted her to sound like she was suckin their cock she would just start sucking mine.
 
So strippers and escorts with any moral value shouldn't have the right to morally involve themselves in a relationship?
The way I see it, 50% of a SP's clients are married. AT LEAST 50% of them. At least a SP and their SO have the understanding an morals toward each other to make the other aware of what they are doing. I'm sure there are some married patrons who let their SO know and they are ok with it.
A SP with a SO who knows is far better than a parton going behind his wifes back, at least on a moral stand point. At least in the SP and SO's case there is a shread of honesty.
That would be like getting into a debate over swingers and couples in an alternative lifestyle. That topic too has been blown up and picked apart.
Does a couple who goes to a swingers club and both partners sleep with somebody else sit any higher on a moral pedistal than an SP and her SO?

Scotty
 

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BouBou said:
LS, the way I read your post is that if an SP wants to be "safe", then she shouldn't be seeing any clients who have SO's, because the clients probably have unprotected sex with their SO's. By your logic, would that not put the SP at more of a risk?

There's no possible way for anybody to know if SP's or clients practice safe sex outside of the business. I think that believing that an SP is safer because she doesn't have an SO, is a fallacy.

Pooning is a risky activity no matter what precautions you take. You can drive yourself into paranoia if you get carried away worrying about every possible risk.
But BouBou, you're forgetting that the guys who are cheating on their SO's by seeing SPs have totally faithful SO's who would never in a million years cheat on them. That renders your first paragraph invalid. If they have uprotected sex with their SO's, there isn't the slightest danger they could catch anything because their SO never so much as has a thought about another man, let alone actually get down and dirty with one. The guys who believe this also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, needless to say. ;)
 

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Moving this along.......

The two issues, is it fucked or not for an sp to work at this gig while married and what do you think of having hubby behind the curtain have been done to the point of exhaustion.

So to change things up, who would you find it exciting to be in the room or behind the curtain? The ladies sister, mother, cousin, etc....., your girlfriend, platonic friend, buddy, etc...
 

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maverick73 said:
I've read in several threads now where SP's have husbands... even worse is when their husbands are present during sessions? :eek: :confused:

I don't get it. I can understand an SP having a bf, a separated husband, a divorced husband... but an actual active husband... surely the 2 of them can make a living such that the SP doesn't have to do this. And surely if the relationship is strong they would both not want the SP to do this.

Are there men out there that just get off on the fact that their wife is f$cking a truckload of other men for money? And even like to hear and watch this in an adjacent room?

Just when I thought I'd heard it all on PERB.... it gets more f$cked up every day.

Does it bother you that an SP has a life? Feelings, needs, wants, desires?
Are you renting her body or buying her love?

I prefer to see a woman who is alone. I’ve been chased out by a jealous bf, and it really scared the $@# daylights outta me ! So, I would prefer to not have another man around while I’m with her. A roommate hiding in the other bedroom, who does not make herself seen or heard, I don’t mind. If that makes the girl feel safe, fine. We all want to feel safe, right?

“And surely if the relationship is strong they would both not want the SP to do this.”
If a gf told me she was turning tricks, my first thought would be for her physical safety. Will she be beaten? Will she get robbed? My second thought would be her mental health. Is she strong enough to give her body but keep her soul? Then I’d worry about do I still do it for her? Does she compare me to a client? Does she still want to wake up next to me?

IF she is physically safe. IF she can stay sane. IF she wants to wake in my arms. I could live with it. MAYBE she would stop. MAYBE her reasons for doing it would disappear.

Sex is easy. Love is not. Women charge. Men pay.

The fact that prostitution exists shows that a “universal morality” does not exist. You live your life, and she lives hers. I think monogamy is unnatural. Having a piece of gold around your finger does not stop you from getting excited when some hot body invades your line of sight.

I’ve purchased a product (her body) and a service(the fantasy that she is my lover).
Don’t compare me with your husband. Don’t tell me what your boyfriend does for a living. I’m not going to ask how many clients you’ve had today, or this week. It’s none of my damn business. And I don’t want to know about them.

Dea’s right. All of one's past experiences and lovers make for a richer, fuller person, who in turn has more to give to everyone else... friends, lovers, or clients.
 

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IMHO... What we pay for is a little piece of a lady's time. We indulge ourselves in a fantasy as long as that lasts but when the time's up: back to reality. SPs have lives to live and we have no right to criticise or even comment on any part of that if it doesn't directly affect us. We all came into this hobby knowing there were risks involved. If a couple's relationship is strong enough to withstand this kind of pressure, more power to 'em! I doubt I could go there personally but that doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with it. So far, in my brief pooning career, the ladies I've spent time with have been wonderful and I wish them all the happiness they seek.:)
 

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Curious Boy, I appreciated your words. Bang on.


Last night, after a few glasses of Guinness, I started pondering this topic of discussion...

...I wondered, for those pooners who object to knowing that an sp is involved with someone.... is it because that destroys the illusion that they could be 'the knight in shining armour' who might be 'the one' who can sweep her off her feet and rescue her? (Who hasn't seen "Pretty Woman"? That archetypal story is everywhere.)

I don't think most men would be even remotely interested in that scenario if it were to play out in reality (ie. with everything that goes with it), but maybe that is an important part of the fantasy, for some.

Any comments?
 

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old pooner said:
I was married for 9 years and during that time I simply didn't want to be with another woman. My wife used to make money by doing phone sex. What her clients weren't aware of, is that half the time she was stroking my cock while they were stroking theirs, and they wanted her to sound like she was suckin their cock she would just start sucking mine.
Old Pooner, that is hilarious!!

 

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DeaAphrodite said:
...I wondered, for those pooners who object to knowing that an sp is involved with someone.... is it because that destroys the illusion that they could be 'the knight in shining armour' who might be 'the one' who can sweep her off her feet and rescue her? (Who hasn't seen "Pretty Woman"? That archetypal story is everywhere.)

I don't think most men would be even remotely interested in that scenario if it were to play out in reality (ie. with everything that goes with it), but maybe that is an important part of the fantasy, for some.

Any comments?
One of the few parts of the "Pretty Woman" scenario I identify with is Richard Gere setting up an evening of strawberries and champagne seduction, and where Julia Roberts says "I'm a sure thing." I have actually received the "I'm a sure thing" line, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to set up the romance anyway.

Extractions suck. It's gotta be something that he and she both grow into, and as best I can tell, most of the ladies don't let anyone close enough for that to happen.
 

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Hatrick said:
I've hung out with a few husbands over the years, I got to know em when, when I came over to fuck his ol lady. Other times I've sat and pulled out a doob and the guy gave me a beer and we watched the hockey game after I banged the crap out of his Ho-wife!

I've never had a problem with a guy whos wife was in the buisiness! Sometimes they just needed a ride somewhere!
Oh Hatrick.... only you... that was pretty damn funny... after 5 pages of posts, this one has to take the cake (besides GBM's serious posts). Looks like you're gearin' up for PERB's greatest legend for 2006.

Ok... just so I get this pictured properly in my head... you make an appointment to f$ck his lady... you hang out all 3 of you... u and the lady go to another room and do the nasty while he can hear you 2?

I guess that's why I continue to be a member of PERB... just when u thought u heard it all, something like this comes along.

The next level is for you to bring your kids along so they can play with their kids while you f$ck the ho-wife.
 
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