MARS - Maverick's Appearance Rating System

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Introduction
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Boy oh boy, talk about pressure. Massagegirl and Jonesy really putting the heat on me to get going on this. It's been in a work in progress over the last little while, and bits and pieces of it have been entrenched in my brain, but I could never settle on all the particulars and put it into words. Now, with all this pressure to perform, I'm saying F it, I'll post a draft, get feedback, and then post a final version later on. I'm open to feedback, but try to reserve the flames. I'm "thinking out loud" here so it may not be 100% representative of what I end up thinking and believing in the end.

Beginnings
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Ok where to start. My scale is based on 1-10 and it's reference point is at 8.0. This reference point is not the mid point, but simply the point where the major question is. This major question is: Does the lady being rated turn heads? Turning heads doesn't necessarily mean LITERALLY turning heads. When a lady walks into a room with many other people, do 80% of them turn their head, give her a 2nd look, give her a detailed first look, or give her a detailed look at the corner of their eye? It can even mean the shy people giving her a glance, but then having secret thoughts about how beautiful she is. You can read this in most people's body language when they see a woman.

The 80/20 Rule
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Why 80%? Well I believe in the 80/20 rule. Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you may think that a relatively unattractive lady by most standards is attractive, and there is nothing wrong with that... however, that doesn't help when making an OBJECTIVE rating on beauty for others to read. Society as a whole has it's ideas on what constitutes female beauty. A lot of it is ingrained into males when looking for a mate. So back to the question of 80/20. Once again, I believe that if 80% of the people in a room give a lady a 2nd look, then that lady can be considered in the top 20% in terms of female beauty.

2nd Looks
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So what constitutes a 2nd look? Well, sometimes a lady can be looked at for the wrong reasons. Sometimes she is only average at best, but dresses like a total slut and can get lots of 2nd looks. You have to exercise good judgment here. Read the body language of the people looking at her. This comes with experience. Sometimes she can be dressed classy and still get "bitch" and "slut" looks from jealous women, so you need to differentiate. What is a bitch or slut look? Well, it's when a woman is insecure or jealous of a more attractive woman "stealing her thunder" and gives her a "stare from hell" that says "you're a bitch" or "you slut" without actually mouthing the words. Hope that makes sense.

Spontaneous Ratings
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I believe in a "at the moment" ratings system, meaning that a girl is rated at that very moment, and then the rater can add whether she had potential or was at her maximum potential already. If you look at a high school prom, all the girls are done up nicely and obviously looking their best. But the next day, many of them easily lose 0.5 to 1.0 points in their normal routine.

Truly Beautiful Women
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I believe that most women, with some effort through diet, exercise, a healthy outlook on life, and some effort, can be at least 7.0's to 8.0's. However, TRULY beautiful women do not need to make much effort. They look beautiful no matter what. Take away all the makeup, all the fancy clothes. Is she still looks good, then she is a 9.0. 9.0 is very hard to get in my ratings system. To get 9.5, she must meet even more stringent criteria on face, breasts, legs, buttocks, and overall figure in general that can really only be observed when in the company of said lady for a closeup. The other alternative, when not able to observe yourself, is to rely on information of credible sources.

Eye Of The Beholder?
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In my system, a 10.0 objective rating is not possible. 9.5 is the highest. The last 0.5 goes towards one's personal preference. One person's beauty IDEAL is not likely the same as anothers. Hence, if I give a 10.0, then I am really giving a 9.5 and saying that the girl is my dream girl, the perfect girl FOR ME, in the looks department only of course. Once again, I value other categories more than looks, such as intelligence, sense of humour, ambition, kindness, and caring... just so you people reading don't think I'm shallow. I'm not.

Misc Tidbits to Consider
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Height
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A quick look at the recent Ms. Universe Pageant would suggest height is a factor, and I agree. The final 5 contestants were all 5'9" to 5'11" except Ms. USA (5'7"), which I don't count because I think she made it because Trump owns the Pageant.

I will say the following:

6'0" and over is a negative - too tall of a woman is considered unfeminine - maybe if she was exactly 6'0", that would be ok, but if she is obviously over 6 ft tall, to many, this becomes a bit of a negative. I think some of the final contestants were about 6'0", but were listed as 5'11" because of this very reason I describe.

5'9" to 5'11" is ideal in my book (well actually, I PERSONALLY prefer my women in the 5'7" to 5'9" range, but for the sake of breaking down into categories, I had to draw the objective line somewhere and I'm using the Ms. Universe Pageant as a reference).

5'6" to 5'8" is very good in my book. Could still be a 9.5 in my book if she was strong in other areas.

5'3" to 5'5" is a bit of negative. If she was strong in other areas, she could be a 9.0, but would be VERY HARD pressed to be a 9.5 in my book.

5'2" and shorter is a negative. She could easily be an 8.0, but she would need to be VERY strong in other areas to get 8.5. She would be very hard pressed to earn a 9.0, and I don't think a 9.5 is possible for somebody of this height. Sorry if I sound shallow, that's just the way I see it. Height does matter.

The Hollywood Factor
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Keeping in character, a misc test I use is the "wood" factor named after the character Hollywood in the movie Top Gun. For those of you who have seen the movie, you'll probably remember what I'm talking about. For those of you who haven't, now is a great time to get the special edition DVD for only about $15 at most big box stores. Great movie, great DVD. Plus, it'll help you understand half my posts :).

Most 7.0 to 7.5 will generally make you think "that girl is pretty" but will not give you instant wood. An 8.0 or 8.5 will usually give you a tingle down there. And a 9.0 or 9.5, when in close proximity, should give you a hard on. Like Hollywood says: "The mig must be close, I'm gettin' a hardon" :D

The Scale
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Ok here are my ratings and a short description of each. The critical points are 9.0 (this and higher is reserved for women with NATURAL beauty), 8.0 (this is the critical point where the woman gets 2nd looks, whether from natural or "effort" beauty), 7.0 (generally the girl next door look, PRETTY, but not quite BEAUTIFUL), 6.0 (the average looking girl), 5.0 and below (below average and not worth my time - if she doesn't care about her general appearance, there's probably a lot of other things she doesn't care about either).

10.0 - a 9.5 with an extra 0.5 saying this girl suits me perfectly. There are many beautiful women in the world. Most people cannot objectively dispute she is at least a 9.0 or 9.5, but to me, she is a 10.0.

9.5 - a 9.0 that meets all the smaller more stringent criteria to get that extra 0.5 points. This could mean nicer hair, facial features, firmer and shapelier overall figure, breasts, buttocks, legs, etc. This is a VERY DIFFICULT rating to achieve and should be reserved for the most beautiful of women.

9.0 - take away all the makeup and beauty enhancers. How does she look in the morning? If she still gets 2nd looks, she is a 9.0 in my book.

8.5 - Somebody that can be mistaken as a 9.0, but upon closer inspection, is closer to a 7.5 to 8.0 when all the "beauty enhancers" are taken away. Still, give her full marks for effort to look nice for her man. This can also apply to former 9.0's where age has taken it's toll and she's no longer "quite there."

8.0 - this woman will get 2nd looks whereever she goes. With experience, you should be able to tell almost immediately. If in a public place, quickly apply the head turning test or bitch looks test for quick verification. Usually, this woman takes care of herself with a reasonable diet, exercise, and if a bit overweight with love handles, makes up for it in other ways.

7.5 - this woman has the potential to turn heads, but is not quite there yet. With a bit of work, she will be in head turning territory. This could also apply to the girl next door look, whose goal is not to turn heads, but rather to look shy and demure, but prettier than average. The maximum possible without gaining unwanted attention.

7.0 - girl next door look, with the potential to have potential to turn heads. The more reserved pretty look that isn't immediately noticeable in a room. Nice on the eyes still. Some prefer this type, but that doesn't make them BEAUTIFUL, just PRETTY.

6.0 - average girl. These are dime a dozen. Most wouldn't give them a 2nd thought.

5.0 - below average. Is still clearly feminine. - edited 3:00 am June 21st by Annalise's request. Took out the word barely.

4.0 - does not make any effort to look healthy and feminine. Overweight, poor diet, visible body hair due to laziness to shave, etc. In other words, she just doesn't care.

3.0 - will make you cringe to look at her and cause quivers to run down your spine.

2.0 - very very unfeminine. Will make you wonder if this person was born female. It will be hard to tell if she is female or male.

1.0 - almost looks like a man.

0.0 - IS a man!

Examples with pictures to follow.
 
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maverick73

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Part I continued and question on File attachments

Ok I tried to edit my post but it got too long. Here are some more additions:

Height Proportion
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A side note on height proportion - the lady ideally should have height distributed evenly among her legs and torso. If she has too much height in either her legs (most common) or torso (less common) it is a bit of a negative.

Leg shape
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Legs should ideally have a nice uniform shape on both sides, not bow legged or straight legged. I will post examples of this in pics later.

Overall Figure
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Overall figure should have a basic hourglass shape to it. Underdeveloped hips (almost straight) is generally considered a negative, but too much curve can also be a negative. Pics to follow later.

Breasts
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Most important factor is shape and firmness. B or C cup seems to be the ideal, and I agree. That is the most natural looking size. I personally prefer a firm B cup or small C cup, but I'll take a small firm A cup over saggy D cup any day. D cup is fun to look at, but in the long run, they tend to become saggy more often than not. Rarely will you find a beauty pageant finalist with a D cup. More to come later. I'm short on time. Remember, I'm just thinking out loud right now.

File Attachments
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I'm trying to upload some files, but it says the maximum is 1.0 kB! The files I want to upload are in the 50 kB range! No way I can compress them that small. I also noticed some pics of Eden were in the 20 kB range. Do paid subscribers get to upload bigger pics? Somebody help here. I wanna upload a couple sample pics to demonstrate some points.
 
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BOBST

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maverick73 said:
I also noticed some pics of Eden were in the 20 kB range. Do paid subscribers get to upload bigger pics? Somebody help here. I wanna upload a couple sample pics to demonstrate some points.
I do not think so but you could e-mail Fred and ask! The cost is not to much so it might be worth your $.
 

Eden

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Wow

Had no idea I could never be a 9! But if I tried real hard I could be a 8.5, never knew and now I do, ty for the info and insight!!
 

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Images.....

maverick73 said:
I'm trying to upload some files, but it says the maximum is 1.0 kB! The files I want to upload are in the 50 kB range! No way I can compress them that small. I also noticed some pics of Eden were in the 20 kB range. Do paid subscribers get to upload bigger pics? Somebody help here. I wanna upload a couple sample pics to demonstrate some points.
You don't actualy upload images....you put them on a hosting site, and then point to them...I'm using VillagePhotos..http://www.villagephotos.com/. Set up a free account and you're in biz...when you click on your pic in your on-line album, you'll see a list of different ways to express your image. Choose the one that refers to eBay...cut and paste the html into your message and "Bob's ur Uncle".......... :)
 

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Eden said:
Had no idea I could never be a 9! But if I tried real hard I could be a 8.5, never knew and now I do, ty for the info and insight!!
Didn't say you couldn't be a 9.0, just that you'd have to be really really good in the other areas. I personally gave you an 8.5 if you recall. I knew I would take flames for this, hence probably why I hesitated to right it. Oh well, I'm trying.
 

Eden

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Good on you for trying, it is just my opinion and I am entitled to it as such, just the same as you. I didn't think that we had met before if that is the case I don't think that you could rate me sight unseen, maybe I am wrong and in that case I will take the flames. Hope your rating system works out for you and all of the tall models you go for. I am pretty happy with me and my little package!
 

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Based on the sheer length and complexity of this document, I would have to guess that in real life ya work for the govt.?
 

Creole Lady Marmalade

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I believe Eden's first post was a little sarcastic. And who wouldn't be slightly miffed after the thread you started. I just got some new pics and now I'm waiting to take a huge hit from perfection seekers such as yourself and many others on this board.

You place an unfair and an unrealistic view of what women look like. Everything so far that women have accomplished to fight the ever present and pressures to "look good" have just been thrusted back into the spotlight on this very board. We're not looking for approval but rather a celebration of the many different sizes and shapes that make women unique and beautiful. As of lately this board has been concentrating more on the shell instead of the whole package.

This thread is a few steps back instead of progression. Also it shows that anyone, other than a professional photographer or fashion designer seeking a model, has little self-esteem and doesn't think they themselves measure up if they have to nit-pick at what makes a perfect woman, which by the way doesn't exist. It can only be man-made.

Furthermore, showing some pics as examples of whatever rules or rating appearance, is just wrong. That's petty.
 
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tom25

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I use a much simpler and more intuitive system ... I look, and if I like what I see then she's classed a "looker". Lookers don't fit into formulas. They just are. Eden darling ... you're defintiely a top rated looker in my books.

Not much more to it than that Mav. If you start assessing leg proportion to breast size ... hell, once you get out the tape measure and the laser level I find that you tend to get slapped a lot. :eek:

Tom
 

Eden

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Tom

Thank you, I would much rather have you looking at me then someone scrutinzing my body shape, proportional breast size with leg size combined with making sure that I didn't have a dimple in the wrong place. It sounds all too exhausting to me.

I am now contimplating changing my sig line from "on a quest to be the best" to "will never quite make it to the best".
 

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You have worked very hard at this, but....

....personally, my taste in women is not static. Somedays, the girl that gets the 9.0 - 9.5 rating (instant wood) will be a 5'8" blonde, 34C-26-34 and 125#. The next day, the same rating might not go to the blonde, but to the 5'4" redhead who is endowed with a 36D-28-36 figure and 140#. Occasionally, the 5'2", 100#, 32A-22-30, Asain spinner is the ticket. And since I generally consider tall women to be sexy, a 6'4" (in stilettos) brunette at 130# and 34B-25-36 would be The Girl the next day. Hope you are reading this VV. That's last one is you!!

The world is a veritible cornicopia of beautiful women. This is why I like life as a hobbyist, I get to indulge all of the above passions and more. So, when I post a review, can the rating be described as objective? Nope and I have no interest in trying to be objective. It is my sexual experience that I am enjoying and it is that experience that I am going to report.

In fact, I think the idea of an "objective" review is pretty fallacious. Some of the things that go into a review is completely subjective. Does the SP have candles lite in the apartment? Is it possible that the smell of the candle might change the way I see the SP? Can the candles, her smell, the light in the room and the music she is playing on her stereo make her look more beautiful than if I saw her on the street in t-shirt and jeans with her hair in a ponytail? I do not know for certain, but I think it is possible.

Again, what is she wearing? Can what she is wearing increase my perception of how beautiful she is? Again, its possible.

How about the sound of her voice? I know this is one that I respond to. If she has a kind of weak, high pitched or squeeky voice, she probably loses a bit in her rating. Conversely, if she has a rich and mellow female voice, the rating goes up. A deep (for a woman) voice makes her boobs bigger, her legs longer and her ass firmer. I'm a sucker for a sexy voice.

I do understand the desire to establish a purely "objective" standard for the purpose of making reviews more uniform. It would be nice, I just do not think it is possible.

But please, do not let me interfere with your work, Mav. Never let it be said that I discourage the research of my comrades.
 

maverick73

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Ok enough is enough, I need to clarify some things. Some things are being misinterpreted!!! I will need to think about this, clear my mind, and then post in a bit. I will post later tonight (or in the morning).
 

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Hey, Mav...

...that's quite the document that you drafted...not that I bothered to read the whole f-in thing!

I guess you have a lot of time on your hands when you're not at TopGun?

Send my regards to Katie Holmes ;)
 

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My taste in women and how attracted to them depends on how exciting and interesting they are. Looks are definitely second!

For example, if she likes to take risks, dresses sexy and daring in public, is a nympho, is imaginative/creative, is intelligent, is kind-hearted... that gets her pretty close to a 9 in my book. A woman like that can keep me enthralled with her even as she gets old.
 

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Mav,

I saw the length of your thread and I was way too fucking lazy to read it, soz I have no idea what is goin on. How about a revised edition, preferably in point form for us lazy folk?
 
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maverick73

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Ok I will address each piece of feedback individually. It's great we got some good feedback going. Thanks to all who have posted so far.

FuZzYknUckLeS said:
Based on the sheer length and complexity of this document, I would have to guess that in real life ya work for the govt.?
No I don't work for the government. The system is really meant to be quite simple ONCE you understand it. If I were to break it down into 4 categories, it would be 9.0 is for natural beauties to be reserved for the most beautiful of women, 8.0 is for a combination of enhanced and natural beauty, 7.0 is for girl next door look (pretty, but not necessarily beautiful), and 6.0 is for average. And then you have your half points to fill in for the ones that don't quite fit into the category above or below.
 

georgebushmoron

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Can you write us a thesis on rating the beauty of a girl's asshole? I'd like to read it, thanks.
 

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Creole Lady Marmalade said:
I believe Eden's first post was a little sarcastic. And who wouldn't be slightly miffed after the thread you started. I just got some new pics and now I'm waiting to take a huge hit from perfection seekers such as yourself and many others on this board.

You place an unfair and an unrealistic view of what women look like. Everything so far that women have accomplished to fight the ever present and pressures to "look good" have just been thrusted back into the spotlight on this very board. We're not looking for approval but rather a celebration of the many different sizes and shapes that make women unique and beautiful. As of lately this board has been concentrating more on the shell instead of the whole package.

This thread is a few steps back instead of progression. Also it shows that anyone, other than a professional photographer or fashion designer seeking a model, has little self-esteem and doesn't think they themselves measure up if they have to nit-pick at what makes a perfect woman, which by the way doesn't exist. It can only be man-made.

Firthermore, showing some pics as examples of whatever rules or rating appearance, is just wrong. That's petty.
Well I realized Eden's post was sarcastic, but if you read it carefully, there is a ring of seriousness to it. I would say 80% sarcastic, 20% serious. Hey, it's the 80/20 rule again! I would personally rate you a 7.0 based on the pics that were uploaded, which is the girl next door look, just what you described, so we're in perfect agreement are we not? I think you are misunderstanding my thread. I am not placing an unrealistic view of what a woman SHOULD look like. Only each person can decide for themselves how they want or SHOULD look. I am just trying to make the looks rating system a little mroe objective by using known or established standards. I cannot stress enough that in my personal life, I value other things MUHC more than looks. However, for the PURPOSES of this thread, looks is the focus of the discussion. Lines have to be drawn somewhere. I'm doing my best to paint those lines.
 
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