male teen, 16, lands female librarian 33 in jail for sexual advances

[jesuschrist]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/18/teen-librarian-sex-case/1844585/?morestories=obnetwork

Not the usual older male "predator" against "innocent" teen girl, but the other way around. This one's rather interesting, and the asymmetrical treatment is unavoidable if it were the other way around.

 

[yazoo]

I was in a situation like this when I was 17. Except it was my dad's 27 year old girlfriend.
I was scared shitless. What a fool I was!!!

Yeah, and you've been thinking and kicking yourself about that lost opportunity ever since. See - she scarred you for life!

Did you ever tell your dad?

 

[Tugela]

This is stupid, there was no predator.

Sounds like the kid was the one who initiated everything, then got cold feet.

Reading that report it sounds like he was playing with her.

It is cases like this that reinforce my belief that the minor involved, if no longer a child, should face the same penalty. Maybe then this sort of stuff would stop.

 

[sweetiepie1]

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This is stupid, there was no predator.

Sounds like the kid was the one who initiated everything, then got cold feet.

Reading that report it sounds like he was playing with her.

It is cases like this that reinforce my belief that the minor involved, if no longer a child, should face the same penalty. Maybe then this sort of stuff would stop.

Why a penalty? Even if he was messing with her, the fact is that she was a staff member of the school and shouldn't have gotten involved. The onus is on the adult to know better. I have no sympathy for her at all.

 

[bug321]

why would you turn that down..

 

[Bootsy]

He's a minor, end of story. She deseves whatever she gets.

 

[CJ Tylers]

not required to register as a sex offender? Funny, if it was a guy...

 

[PlayfulAlex]

No matter how you carve it up, she knew that what she was doing wasn't cool, and could cost her dearly. Gender notwithstanding, it's unfortunate when adults forget their roles and responsibilities, when it comes to youth.

 

[Tugela]

My point is that he was an active participant, he knew what he was doing was illegal, but he did it anyway.

In situations where the minor is aware, or reasonably should have been aware, that what they were doing is illegal, then they should share the punishment with the adult involved. They are participating willfully in a crime, wtf should their age excuse them?

In this case he was 16, knew there was no consequence to him, so playing with someone else's life gave him a thrill. First he lures her in, then when the hook is set, he brings the cops in and plays victim.

Hell no!!!

Are you people fucking stupid?

 

[westcoast555]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/18/teen-librarian-sex-case/1844585/?morestories=obnetwork

Not the usual older male "predator" against "innocent" teen girl, but the other way around. This one's rather interesting, and the asymmetrical treatment is unavoidable if it were the other way around.

She's a fool ... and the boy is a pussy and a bit of a cad. If he wasn't into it he should have just told her to fuck off. Going to the cops is... unchivalrous. The librarian is hot too... he should have just done it.

 

[jesuschrist]

My point is that he was an active participant, he knew what he was doing was illegal, but he did it anyway.

In situations where the minor is aware, or reasonably should have been aware, that what they were doing is illegal, then they should share the punishment with the adult involved. They are participating willfully in a crime, wtf should their age excuse them?

In this case he was 16, knew there was no consequence to him, so playing with someone else's life gave him a thrill. First he lures her in, then when the hook is set, he brings the cops in and plays victim.

Hell no!!!

Are you people fucking stupid?

The reason many people are stupid is because the law confuses them. Many are clinging to the notion that a child is anyone under 18, which clearly is not reality for people over 14 today. People over 14 are not children, they in fact have the full capacity for the same sophistication as adults - and where crime is concerned, they certainly do.

So the law is behind the reality - instead, let's make 15 the age of majority. Anyone 15 and over is legally responsible as an adult and has all the rights of an adult. Let them vote, drive, own property, etc. Let them be civilly and criminally liable too. Abolish laws against having sex with anyone between the ages of 15 and 18 - because they are adults, they know what they are doing.

 

[luvsdaty]

Brain wise, it's still developing & growing new brain cells until you're in your early 20's, so a kids not even fully developed yet.Toss in the fact that at that age you're incredibly immature so i don't really think that you can hold someone to the same level of accountability as some one who is in their 30's.
Regardless of gender the person in the position of authority should know better(she did as she kept trying to get the kid to erase all his text messages) & that person should be held accountible.
I mean i'm sure there's people here that would love to have sex with a beautiful stacked 17 yr old girl but the majority of us know that this is wrong & we act accordingly. So do i feel sorry for the teacher? Not really,What do i think of the kid? not much, he's just some stupid kid that didn't know any better & he'll probably be kicking himself in years to come for not tappin that ass.

 

[jesuschrist]

Brain wise, it's still developing & growing new brain cells until you're in your early 20's, so a kids not even fully developed yet.

Toss in the fact that at that age you're incredibly immature so i don't really think that you can hold someone to the same level of accountability as some one who is in their 30's.

Biology and evaluation about someone's level of maturity are nothing but rationale for not imposing responsibility on an individual; I say that you could come up with endless reasons and delays for that, and it does not directly address the issue anyway - which is, they just need to be responsible, period. Even young children know the basic difference between right and wrong. Someone who is 15 surely knows, and that's all you really need to determine capacity for responsibility.

 

[luvsdaty]

I agree about holding someone accountable no matter what the age, but different levels of discipline for different ages imo.As far as right & wrong go? I think that is a taught thing & children know what they're taught.I certainly wouldn't do half the things that i did when i was 15.

 

[Tugela]

I disagree with this nonsense about teenagers not being mature enough. Our ancestors were lucky to make it to their late 20s, in those times you became an adult when you hit puberty. Which is why we develop the ability to have children at that age. That is what our species evolved to do. Considering teenagers as children is a very recent phenomena in human society.

If an individual is not "mature" enough, or lacks knowledge about how to behave, it is because society fails miserably to teach children to be adults. They should allready know all that shit by the time they hit puberty, after that there are no excuses in my book. The problem is that we treat children as children until they are allmost 20, by that time their ability to learn is pretty much gone. And we wonder why there are so many immature adults wandering around.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Our current version is based on scientific study of how development occurs. Also, it's hard for someone that young to truly appreciate the long term consequences of their actions, even if they know them intellectually. I remember being chastised by my little sister, for daring to suggest that she dump the guy she was with (whom I pegged as a cheater and a flake... quite correctly). She told me that I knew "nothing" about guys.

:|

Even though she was in that age bracket, and she knew many true facts... she just couldn't grasp the concept of what was going on. Wisdom and maturity need time to grow. It's even more important now, given that most of us live vastly longer than those ancestors that you are talking about...

It's probably the hardest thing to do, working with or around young adults. A kid that is between 16 and 18 may not look much different from a 19-21 year old. Their voices sound almost the same... they talk about things in a similar fashion. Some even act more mature than their older counter parts.

It still doesn't make them more mature, on any level... they've just learned how to act in a certain way to seem older (especially girls do this, as they emulate the next age bracket up to a greater extent - and earlier on - than guys). There are some little psychopaths out there... who really do know full well the difference (and I'd suspect this fellow is one...), but by and large, the majority of kids just aren't there.

Despite what they think.

 

[kodiak_bear3]

I have hard time to refer to a 16yo as a child... maybe youth... maybe teen ager... but child??? come on!

 

[Tugela]

My parents had left school, were out working and earning a living by the time they were 16. Even when I was at school there were people like that.

A 16 year old is NOT a child. By that age their maturity is largely set. Mental development is rapid when you are younger, it slows down to a crawl by mid teens and stops at about 20. Whatever sort of person you are by the time you are 13-14, that is pretty much the sort of person you are going to be for the rest of your life. What people that age dont have is a whole lot of experience, but that is NOT maturity!!! People get confused by that.

If they are immature at that age it is because their parents and/or society has been neglecting their collective responsibilities.