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sunnysideup

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My personal favorite

I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law. I have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. If I cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for me. I’m not going to tell you a fu@king thing.
 
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chilli

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Auld Ball said:
Isn't it too bad that we have to resort to something like this. I can see it if you find yourself in a questionable situation. I know a few LE who most of the time are nice people just trying to do job. Under most normal situations, following such advice is not wise or necessary and might prolong your situation. Of course,if you are guilty........
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Most of my experiences with LE have been bad.

I find most police are more than willing to lie, they are also quick to assume things.

1 example...

My now ex-wife and I were driving once home from a bar, she was driving because I had been drinking. We came up to a check stop - she had one or 2 drinks so she panicked and stopped about 100 metres in front of the check stop.

I told her she was ok and not to worry aobut it - when we got to the check stop the cop said "I seen you guys switch seats."

"You sir were driving."

It was an out and out lie - he couldnt have seen us switch seats because we didn't.

I could give you 2 other examples of police officers who have lied about my situation, abused their positions of power over me and just made my life hell.

And before you say "Well you probably deserved it." I can assure you the worst thing I have ever done is a few speeding tickets and parking tickets.
 
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HunkyBill

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Keep in mind one thing. If you're a witness to a crime and you happen to be the ONLY witness, the police will likely pin the crime on you. It's best to keep quiet.
 
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MrR

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I find this card interesting. I think it's strange, but it could save you from a lot of sh*t. Wish I had it due to some instances where I just couldn't keep my mouth shut and got myself into worse trouble than I was already in.
 
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MissTakes

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There are good cops and some bad ones and I've had my share of both of them. Most of the beat cops are okay. They look out for the girls unless you mess with them but the ones at the top of the food chain are just evil.

The way they handled the Pickton case... I'll never forget or forgive. Hopefully one day they will have to answer for the way they let those girls die. But I doubt it.
 
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booblover

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all you have to do is watch the first 48 on tv. the crooks are their own worst enemies. obviously it is a good thing in this kind of situation though.
 
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HubbaHubba said:
I mean if I saw your mom being assulted and the guys took off, I would be there to help your mom and not leave because I'm the only witness to a crime. It's just common sense that we all need to help the police and one another to try and put these scum balls where they belong. By me not helping because it is going to be a drain on my time would be pathetic.

The bottom line is more people need to step up and work with the police, not against them.
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Ok, I get your point now. Yes, too much of the New York cover your ass and move on mentality at play here. Aside from this (poor and inhuman) advice, I think people here are pretty good about either helping out someone in need and/or supplying witness information.

On the other side of things, we get the pseudo-mafia wannabees and Biker Gang wannabees pushing the, "If you talk to the pigs you're a rat" mentality. The ones that commit the crimes are the ones preaching the inappropriateness of helping the police. The residual fallout is a post such as that of the OP. Wonder who he would call if his car got stolen... the lawyer on that card? :rolleyes:
 
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So, folks are saying that I shouldn't have phoned the cops when I caught 2 dope fiends breaking into my neighbour's place? And I shouldn't have stuck around and given descriptions? Because I did, my neighbours got their stuff back, and they at least took the dope fiends off the street for a few hours.
 
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GoodKat said:
No, the op was advising you of your rights. Cops are trained to breach them so you damn well better know them before speaking to one.
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What he said was,

Keep your mouth shut...
when you get interrogated by the police, even if you're a witness.

That's a little different than simply advising someone of their rights. He is giving direction.

Police are not trained to breech your rights. To manipulate you into giving them up, perhaps, but if they breech your rights, no charges will stick. I doubt that they want that.
 
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What he said was,

Keep your mouth shut...
when you get interrogated by the police, even if you're a witness.

That's a little different than simply advising someone of their rights. He is giving direction.
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He also never told anybody not to report a crime.

Police are not trained to breech your rights. To manipulate you into giving them up, perhaps, but if they breech your rights, no charges will stick. I doubt that they want that.
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Poor choice of words on my part. The part in bold is what I meant.
 
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