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Kim is Retired & Things Hobbiest and Girls should hear (in my opinion)

Kimberly

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Hi everyone, Kimberly in Vancouver here. I am retired as of this week and want to say a few things. I know that I posted way back that I didn’t wish to be discussed on this board. I now know I meant that I didn’t like some of the gossipy stuff that goes on here. Reviews are good and necessary, and I didn’t mean to offend anyone by saying otherwise. My website and adds are down and I am moving on to the next part of my life. I won’t be accessing this board again so if I say something you disagree with, I’ll never know. So don’t bother posting a comment for my benefit, although I’m sure what I have to say will start a conversation or two ;)

Things All Hobbyists should Know:

Do be Clean. For the love of God, be clean when you show up.

Do not tweak, pull or suck nipples to excess unless told specifically the girl likes and wants it. Not only can it be extremely painful and annoying, it’s a real mood killer.

Do bring a gift if you can. If you want to stand out in a girls mind, a gift certificate flowers or a treat is a really nice thing to bring. Even though the girl is a provider all women like to feel appreciated. I remember every client who went out of his way to do something nice for me.

Keep in mind that meeting with a guy who is a stranger is very intimidating. You may be nervous but imagine how the girl feels; she is the one potentially in physical danger. When you talk to her before setting up a meeting tell her a little bit about yourself to help put her at ease.

Do not try to talk a girls’ price down. If you want to pay less find it elsewhere.

Last minute bookings and cancellations are inconsiderate and border on just plain Rude. Plan ahead and stick with it.

DFK is ok if discussed before hand – Face licking is not. Ewe, think about it. Lick the neck, but never the face.

And hey – here’s a thought. Try to get to know the women in your own life better. If you aren’t happy with your sex life at home chances are your wife is wanting a change too. Find out what makes her feel valued and loved, and let her know how your sex life is an important part of your relationship. Yes it takes more work than booking a meeting with a stranger and plopping down cash to make her pay attention to you. But I would think your work will more than pay off. I would urge men to really think about the potential damage they can do by seeing a provider. Possible STD’s and betrayal of wedding vows is not to be taken lightly. How would getting found out affect your life? Is there not a better way of handling your bedroom issues? If you are so fearful of what would happen that you can’t even send a phone number when booking, ask yourself if the risk is worth it at all.

I know not everyone is married and I am Not judging at all (far be it for Me to). And a simple exchange can be a very healthy outlet for a lot of people. I’m Only writing this because I heard the same issues from a vast majority of my clients time and time again, and I just wanted to tell them to spend the time and work on things at home. I really think that could be far more fulfilling than hiring a hooker.

Girls – To you I would say don’t be afraid to stand up for yourself. Charge $300 for the hour (sorry guys) because you are worth it. You are putting your life on the line, and on hold. You have enormous pressure to instantly mold to what you think a complete stranger wants. You risk affecting the Rest of your Life with STD’s. You risk being seriously hurt in other ways. Don’t take calls where a guy won’t give you a valid e-mail or phone number. He could walk in, rob you, rape you (yes a provider can be raped) or beat you. Getting legitimate contact information really cuts your risk of being hurt down. Same with STD risks like offering BBBJ. Why do it? Does it make your life better? It feels only slightly better to the guy and puts Your health on the line. Be selfish! Say no to risking your health. Once they walk out the door they may never see you again and you could be stuck with a present you never knew they left behind. Again, not what guys want to hear but it needs to be said.
Also, invest in a good quality website and photos. Derek did a great job on my photos. You Need a good quality website that will actually work properly and be found by search engines. Invest in one, its worth it. Mine brought me a lot of good clients and was made by http://www.3xinc.com/. (note: keep it simple. no guy wants pages of text) This is a Business. Treat it like one and you can do Very well for yourself. And treat every single client like he is the man of your dreams, he's paying good money and derserves your best.

Lastly, I want to say goodbye to the people I won’t get a chance to. Clients that were kind and considerate and good people. I wish you all the happiness and prosperity life can bring.

Bye Y’all
Kim
:)
 
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bobsled

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Re: Face Licking....

Ewwwwwwww...

I remember my ex-girlfriend had a dog that liked to lick my face. It was gross. And she had dog breath...not my ex, but the dog. So I know your pain, Kimberly.

No wonder you retired.

I think you're super duper cute. Never met you...but sadly it's all falling on deaf ears.

Now that you're retired can we get together for coffee? I won't lick your face...promise. I'm going to miss those wonderful pics.

So there.

Later,
bobsled.
 

stryker

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Kim,all the best to you in your future endeavours,I really hope it works out for you,I've known many a working girl that have pulled the plug and have gone on to greater things,kudos to ya Hon,,,take care!
 

hitrack

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I'll go along with about 75% of that.
 

yogi

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I concur with most of what you say, the exception being the gratuitous presumptious moralizing & preaching about how we should treat our wives....sheesh.
 

tom25

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yogi said:
I concur with most of what you say, the exception being the gratuitous presumptious moralizing & preaching about how we should treat our wives....sheesh.
Yeah ... been there, done that, tried most of it ... still didn't get any!!! :(

so happy pooning!!! ;)

Tom
 

OralRay

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Regrets

Kimberly,
Sorry I never had the chance of meeting you although you were number one my list of who to see when I came to Vancouver.

You always seemed like a wonderful lady that had a good attitude.
Good luck on your new endevours(sic?)

Who am I going to see now when I make my next trip to the lower mainland :(
 

Maury Beniowski

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Reflections from the cynic's chair...

Something happens to a wife of 10-20-30 years that can't be reversed even with an honest "heart-to-heart" conversation about sexual needs. You just get that "Get serious - you're so trivial" look that makes a man seethe with disdain - and the aggravation doesn't disappear there; it accumulates over time like a cancer, and often (60% divorce rate in North America) brings a perfectly good relationship to the brink. Some men, with low libidos, or an even lower self-esteem put up with it, others say "Fuck this shit, I've had enough".

Women in long term relationships nowadays have to take a hard look at themselves, and frame it in the context of the real world. The opportunities for marital infidelity abound, and it doesn't take long for the continuous pounding of distractions from TV, newspaper ads, and Swimsuit Edition magazines to begin to take their toll. The majority of us don't live in small communal environments as in the past. We live in cities that thrive on the commercialization and mass production of everything including sex. Even divorce is a trillion dollar industry with Family Law pig judges, who know fuck all about relationships, and greedy lawyers, who are more interested in their $50,000 fees than the welfare of the children they pretend to be concerned about.

Moralizing on the intrinsic values of long-term relationships is a loser's game, and a pathetically late card I'm afraid. When all else fails, Mom's syrupy counseling is unlikely to make good what took thirty years to screw up.
 
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georgeb

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hmmm

Kimberly

My 2 cents…

I just can’t help wondering if you shared your wonderful wisdom with all your clients prior to sharing your time with them. Your wisdom is wonderful, but it looses its sincerity in the context in which it is presented.

The truth of the matter is that the ladies in this business do this for the money, the customers here do it because they want to and they can. It simple supply and demand rule, everything else falls in behind this basic marketing rule.

As for paying attention to our SO, it’s a two way street. It takes two to keep a dialogue going and reach consensus, (no relationship at all to the NHL); but in the end, men and women’s needs are different, and it’s the gap between the two that creates this business opportunity, and it has done so very well for millennia, talking about it it’s not going to fix that, Viagra for women may have a chance.

Wishing you all the best on your retirement.

Lurker out
 

hitrack

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Yah....yah what you guys all said. And did you catch the $300 thing. Had me pissing my pants for hours!! :D :D
 

tom25

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My S.O. and I both had the week off from work. so the plan was to spend the week "reconnecting" Hanging out, going to cafes, art galleries, long lunches. Getting a babysitter and having a night out. All that sort of stuff.

so i suggested we rent a hotel for the day ... get a room with a jacuzzi ... and have some fun as part of our "reconnection". She looked at me, frowned somewhat, and said "a room for the day??? .... Isn't that what hookers do?"

I smiled, said, "I'd have no idea dear", and immediately went and phoned my favourite SP!!!! :D

Tom
 

travel guy

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georgeb said:
Kimberly

but in the end, men and women’s needs are different, and it’s the gap between the two that creates this business opportunity, and it has done so very well for millennia, talking about it it’s not going to fix that, Viagra for women may have a chance.
Not married so can't agree or disagree, but there's an interesting perspective here: Your Wife: The Wanton Slut .

Your wisdom is wonderful, but it looses its sincerity in the context in which it is presented.
Respectfully disagree. If she were still in biz and still telling pooners what she knows we want to here (it's clearly part of the job) then I'd question her sincerity. I think she's just seizing the opportunity to offer an honest opinion.
 

donnyknotts

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Women in the business have long complained of the disrespect accorded them in their chosen role. Thankfully that is very slowly starting to change.

Meaningful change, however, won't be helped along by the comments like Kimberly's, who is now casting aspersions on the clients that supported her lifestyle and no doubt contributed significantly to her bank account.

Save us the moralizing, Kimberly, you f***ed for money, we pay you to f***.

End of story.
 

fingers

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When i read kim's thread. It reads like there's an under lying message of how people should treat each other.I agree with parts of kims thread.But i also wonder if she gave any of the men she saw a chance to change there minds about seeing her once she found out they were in regular commited relationships..Or was the money taken and fantasy's lived out?I'm not trying to be mean or judgmental but it's a little late to look down on people once you've taken there money and on your way to retirment on someone's hard earned dollar..I do wish kim all the best and happiness in the future..

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roll'n that booty, got every man in here wish'n !!
 

hitrack

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Before we shit on this chick to much for giving a niclkles worth of free advise let us not forget this is your advise and pissing an moaning she's giving back. You Johns all probably spilled yer guts about how your old lady won't put out and/or maybe if she did you wouldn't wanna bang the ol heffer any ways.

Probably was no picnic for her to hear how your old lady needs to be traded in worse than your 1980 oldsmobile.

She's just spewing back out in her own words what you all said.

As far as the licking of faces, eyes, and ears thing goes thats her problem that she didn't like it. I have been with chicks that did.

For the telling chicks to stand up for themselves and charge 300 bones...by all means gilrs do so.....doensn't mean you'll get it. Looks mean everything in this biz, so if yer kinda hurtin 300 clams might equal one timers being the bulk of your income. IMHO of corse.
 

bobsled

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RE:Kimberly...

I've never met Kimberly...but the pics she had on her website remind me of Tiffany Fox. IMHO, they were put together the same way.

I miss Tiffany Fox. Jesus, she was cute.

Let's all say it together...
Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany Fox...Tiffany Fox!

I Love saying that name.

Kimberly is gone, Tiffany is gone. I'm moving on. The sun will come up tomorrow. What's for breakfast?

Later,
bobsled.
 

Massagegirl

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Great advice Kim

I think Hitrack just summed things up very nicely but one thing y'all are forgetting is that she doesn't give a shit whether you "think you deserve" her lecture or not, she's retired and she won't be checking for replies, criticisms or apologies. In any case I don't think she was dissing infidelity as much as she was dissing being with a partner you don't like/respect or want to screw. It is pretty sad to sell out for less than true love n'est pas?

I think she had to get it off her chest, and kudos to her for saying some things we all wish we could say, in particular...

Do not tweak, pull or suck nipples to excess unless told specifically the girl likes and wants it. Not only can it be extremely painful and annoying, it’s a real mood killer.
This is more common than you would believe, is very disconcerting and makes me cringe just thinking about it! I know they do it in porn, but remember the girls are acting.

PS Who licks faces? Honestly?
 
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