Just had to ask......

[luckydog71]

Did any Canadians watch the Sarah Palin speech?

What did you think? She is the second woman in our history to run for VP.

I know Canada has only had 1 woman PM. She was not elected and lasted only days. So I already know how you feel about woman in power in Canada.

Is a woman's place looking after her children?
or
Should a woman be seriously considered to be in a position of power?


America will get to decide on Nov 4th. and just maybe the first NA country to have a woman as an elected leader......

 

[uncleg]

Did any Canadians watch the Sarah Palin speech?
What did you think?

I know Canada has only had 1 woman PM. She was not elected and lasted only days. So I already know how you feel about woman in power in Canada.

First, I don't think you do know how Canada feels about a woman in power. If a qualified woman runs for office her chances are as good as any qualified man. Kim lasted more then just days, and lost out in the election, not because she was a woman, but because of who she followed and the party she represented. Sort of the same problem as McCain has following Bush.

As to Palin's speech, I thought it went well and right about now the Democrats are probably doing some serious repostioning.

 

[HankQuinlan]

She was magnificent. Did everything they could have asked of her. Delivered her lines perfectly. She made perfect and clever jabs at Obama. Very good perfomance all around.

Content: McCain is a war hero who has fought and suffered for his country. Don't I have a great family? Just look at them! We could be your neighbours! The ones you like! And aren't I the feisty one too! We're real Americans, doggonit, not like them other guys! And we're not part of them whole Washington insider wastrel bunch, nosiree. We'll clear them rascals out! We really represent change, dangit, and we'll turn this country around.

I expect she will appeal to a great many of your countrymen, and make the campaign more difficult for Obama.

Oops... forgot some of the important speech content: Our troops are brave and deserve our support as they fight for our country. Look -- I'm sending my own oldest boy off to serve us.

 

[HankQuinlan]

And yes, absolutely. Women deserve a chance at power if they represent the right choices.

Unfortunately, she represents the social positions of the Christian fundamentalist movement that infests your politics (and ours).

And of course, my own bias: anybody that really believes that fundamentalist bullshit (Huckabee also gave a speech tonight) is simply not very bright.

 

[Katlyn]

I know Canada has only had 1 woman PM. She was not elected and lasted only days. So I already know how you feel about woman in power in Canada.

hahahahahahahaha!!!

You should really read up on the circumstances (ie the shitstorm she was left with while they hustled their asses off to sort shit out and get a new election running) before assuming we have any opinion of women in power. I doubt 90% of Canadians would care, there just have not been very many savvy political women in our history of politics and our voting system is different than in the US. We have a ton of women in our House of Commons.

 

[luckydog71]

Katlyn - I am hesitant to have a political discussion with you... because I still look forward to a session. I was the one who need to cancel the appointment. Sorry hon.... and I still look forward to meeting you.....

I do not need to read up.... I was living in Canada when Brian Mulroney stepped down and Kim Campbell became an unelected PM. She ran for office and was rejected big time by the Canadian voters.

No woman in Canadian politics has come even close to being in a position of power. Canada has elected many woman to office, put never as a leader. Kim never came even close to being elected.

Katlyn, I hope you do not hold our differences against me. Unless of course you want to spank me. in our session.

 

[mrwanker]

Michael Palin

Listen to a Republican speech? Are you kidding?

 

[GentlemanCaller]

An Evangelical Christian that goes out on the weekend and shoots stuff.... yep, that seems well balanced, all right....

 

[timhorton]

No woman in Canadian politics has come even close to being in a position of power. Canada has elected many woman to office, put never as a leader. Kim never came even close to being elected.

"Kim Campbell ran for office. Kim Campbell is a woman. Kim Cambell was not elected. Therefore, Canadians will not elect a woman."

You'd fail Logic 101. Non-sequitur.

No-one could have come close to being elected leading the Conservatives in the immediate aftermath of Mulroney. That Kim Campbell is a woman was a moot point at the time.

Women have been in positions of power in Canada. We have had women leaders of federal parties with seats in the commons, women who have stepped into the PMO however briefly when a PM steps down, governors general, senior policy-makers, auditors general...

While the number of senior official and executive office women in Canada and US is far less common than in Europe, Canada does not in any specific manner exhibit a disinclination for women in power. At least not to any degree greater than women in any other industry or profession.

Considering the population of Canada is 1/8th that of the US, the number of women in senior political positions is considerable comparatively.

Has there ever been a woman as leader of one of the major US federal parties? Pelosi is a pretty significant player, I guess. As Speaker, she is the most politically powerful woman in the US. She's the first woman in that position, and second in succession to the presidency after the VP. A lot more women have held compeer rank Canada.

 

[Katlyn]

Katlyn - I am hesitant to have a political discussion with you... because I still look forward to a session. I was the one who need to cancel the appointment. Sorry hon.... and I still look forward to meeting you.....

I do not need to read up.... I was living in Canada when Brian Mulroney stepped down and Kim Campbell became an unelected PM. She ran for office and was rejected big time by the Canadian voters.

No woman in Canadian politics has come even close to being in a position of power. Canada has elected many woman to office, put never as a leader. Kim never came even close to being elected.

Katlyn, I hope you do not hold our differences against me. Unless of course you want to spank me. in our session.

No worries, I could care less about politics. I just found your post hilarious...even more so now that you say you know what went on. I mean, how can you jump from having her rejected by voters to thinking that means Canadians don't like women in office? Don't forget that in Canada we don't vote for the prime minister and our local representatives separately. If I want to support the Liberal candidate federally but I like the NDP candidate in my riding I have to choose if I am going to vote for that NDP guy I like or if I am going to vote for that asshole that represents the Liberals in my local riding. Personally I like the way they do it in the US. Vote for the president and vote for the locals in your riding. In the end I vote for who I want in my riding, the person, even if it is not the party I want to elect to lead my country.

As for her, well her party was FUCKED, there was absolutely no way she would win the election because of everything happened. Sure she was rejected but noone from her party would have won, even the voters that liked HER would not have voted for her party. But you can't say we don't like women in office just because of this instance. It was an exceptional circumstance. The simple fact is she is the only woman that had the drive and smarts to get there. I am certain if a worthy candidate ever showed up we would have no problem voting for her. Canadians are pretty gender, race, and disability-neutral (the mayor of Winnipeg is/was a paraplegic and we had a prime minister for years that could barely speak english).

Anyway, like I said I don't really care about politics and I will not argue any opinions anyone tries to broach with me about Kim but I had to weigh in on this topic because of that comment...Surely you can't base a nation's opinion on an entire gender on ONE instance? That would be like saying "I know all Americans must hate the Japanese because they bombed you".

 

[HankQuinlan]

She may want to polish up on her English. Backwoods colloquialisms may not sit so well in Washington in the next-to-impossibly remote event she and McCain actually make it to the big ol' white shack in D.C.

You obviously didn't listen to her speech. Her English was perfect. I summarized the 40 minutes and translated it for her core constituents.

I also left out: its a big scary world out there and we need tough people in charge. What could be better than a genuine war hero and a gun-shootin' mom with a kid serving in Iraq?

 

[HB40]

As a former English teacher, I just wanted to say that the title for your thread really had nothing to do with the subject. Your title could have referred to almost anything--and definitely not just about Sarah Palin's speech. A far better title, of course, would have been "Did anyone watch Sara Palin's speech on TV?" (although, technically, no one can actually watch a speech . . . .)

In your original title and in your first line, you asked if any Canadians watched her televised speech. Now, technically, there really was no need to direct this question solely to Canadians because, technically, PERB is Canadian and is, therefore, mostly for Canadians.

As a former English student, I just wanted to say your post really had nothing to do with the subject of this thread. Technically you are not really saying anything, you're typing. You get an "F", now go stand in the corner.

I would vote for a woman if she has the qualifications. How does that old saying go?..."Behind every good woman is a man who knows what he is doing"

 

[luckydog71]

Sperminator - thank you for taking the time to grade my thread. In future I will provide you an advanced copy for your critique.

I think you would be surprised at how many Americans are on the board.

and what HB40 said.......


Katlyn..... thanks for the reply and I am glad to hear we can still have a session. Maybe you could whisper campaign slogans in my ear, that should really crank it up a notch.

On a serious note - it was more of general curiosity what the outside world (maybe that should be the real world) thinks of her. As far as American politics go we are f*cked.

 

[SFMIKE]

I can't wait until she gets to face Joe Biden in the VP debate. That will be the true test of her knowledge and abilities. He knows his stuff and is not the nicest guy in the Senate.

They can only hide her from the press questioning for so long. Then we get to hear how she thinks on the run.

Her speech was expected to be very good as she has a lot of experience at that, and she surely did not write it.

 

[luckydog71]

I can't wait until she gets to face Joe Biden in the VP debate.

Me too SFMike......

But the outcome is already decided....

The left wing nuts will think the old guy won......

and

The right wing nuts will think the pit bull won.....

so the debates will only appeal to those who have not decided......

So that takes you and me out of the group they will be speaking to.....

 

[luckydog71]

Funny, I've had the same concern about men...

Anna - there has never been a doubt in my mind. Men have held political power for decades - no centuries. We have f*cked it up royally.

I have a lot of hope that when the pit bull she kick a lot of ass. Actually there are many of the male politicians in Washington that I would like to see Sarah make a frontal attacked with her boots.

She is not ready to be President to day. But McCain will not run again and with 4 years in the WH, Sarah will have the experience and we will also get to see her in action.

I would love nothing better than to see Palin vs Clinton in 2012. That starts with an Obama defeat in 2008. If Obama wins this year, Hilary's goal of being president will not be attainable.