Issues with Race

[Radioactiveman123]

Good Afternoon,

I haven't been doing this "hobby" for too long, but every once in a while get the urge to partake, but always end up running into issues regarding my race.

I'm a quiet, polite, very hygienic brown man, but still seem to be ignored by some SP's that don't seem to enjoy the company of people with my ethnic background. I was born and brought up in Canada, so I'm not (excuse me if this sounds rude) off the boat smelly. It seems like, specifically Asian Sp's don't want to have anything to do with brown guys; or at least don't provide service that's up to par if I were white.

Anyway. Can you guys suggest any SP's that truly don't care about race. I've never been with an Asian SP that is accepting; so any suggestions for asians would be great. But any suggestions in general would be nice.

Thanks

 

[take8easy]

Good Afternoon,

I haven't been doing this "hobby" for too long, but every once in a while get the urge to partake, but always end up running into issues regarding my race.

I'm a quiet, polite, very hygienic brown man, but still seem to be ignored by some SP's that don't seem to enjoy the company of people with my ethnic background. I was born and brought up in Canada, so I'm not (excuse me if this sounds rude) off the boat smelly. It seems like, specifically Asian Sp's don't want to have anything to do with brown guys; or at least don't provide service that's up to par if I were white.

Anyway. Can you guys suggest any SP's that truly don't care about race. I've never been with an Asian SP that is accepting; so any suggestions for asians would be great. But any suggestions in general would be nice.

Thanks

I am ........... 'non-white' myself.

Frankly, I have never really had to face that issue, not overtly anyways. Except there is this one ....... SP, who explicitly refuses to see certain races, but that is her problem, not mine. IMOH, none of them is SO high and mighty that you need to compromise my self esteem. If someone refuses to see you because of your race, religion or color, then THAT person is inferior, not you.

I have been with SP's of different races (white and Asian) and I have never seen me being a non white as an issue.

I can send you the list of girls that I have seen and none of them seem be to .. racist towards me.

I just saw Amber Marie today, she is as white/Caucasian as they come and she took me to cloud nine and I still floating around in it. If you don't believe me, go ask her how our session went.

The funny thing is that once I saw an ad by an Abby E. Indian younger SP who clearly stated in her ad that she doesn't want to see brown men(of her own race). ALso, there is this SP (near hwy 10 and 152nd in Surrey) who doesn't want to see men of African origin. ( Wait a minute, why is it the Surrey SP's who have problems with racism, lol )


Sometimes, we are too quick to brand people racist, but I am sure they have their reasons. If you want, pm me, I will send you my whole journal of 13 SP's in two months and 3 days and none of them ever refused me service because I am ....... b___ .. I mean .. non-white.

(Yes, I found your off the boat smelly comment a bit offensive. I m colored, and off boat too... but ask any of the SP's I have seen, if I smelled)

Chill, the world is not as bad as we think it is. I have been welcomed by Caucasian and Asian SP's openly and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Cheers.

 

[dipsett]

i don't think they care as much as you think they do, as long as a guy is respectful, hygienic , and has $ (not in that order)

you seem to be putting negative connotations on your own race to begin with, so how do you expect others to behave?

i am of arabic descent myself, and never had any issues, than again i am confident in myself and don't go into it fidgeting my thumbs wondering if she would turn me down on something as petty as that, and if she does than it wasn't meant to be to begin with.

everyone has reasons/preferences so it is what it is , if you read bp ads in the usa, nearly 3/4s of them say no black men highlighted in the ad.


anyway as far as a recommendation goes, Riza 6801 in richmond is very accommodating , she is Filipino, and mature.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Frankly, I have never really had to face that issue, not overtly anyways. Except there is this one ....... SP, who explicitly refuses to see certain races, but that is her problem, not mine...

It isn't a PROBLEM...most of my 'brown' friends tell me I am the brownest white woman they have ever met. I speak more Punjabi than some of them too. I'd rather eat naan than I have repeatedly explained why I do not see men at my Surrey incall whose ethnic & cultural background originates in India or Pakistan. Call it what it is...cultural, not race. It has nothing to do with smell or hygiene. It has EVERYTHING to do with respect, including you respecting my past. It also has to do with people respecting my choices, and reading between the lines when there are lines that can be read...For example, I have told many gentlemen who inquire that I will consider seeing them, but not at my Surrey in-call. In fact, I am fairly certain I have told YOU that, take8easy, in PM. At least once.

For several very precise reasons, which I'd happily explain in person, I do not allow people to dictate any of my restrictions to me. My pussy, my rules.

 

[Vitargo]

I'm mixed race 1/2 caucasian and 1/2 asian. I've seen about 16 or so sp's so far(all caucasian ) and haven't had any problems most say they like my look and say I'm hot. It may help that I'm clean cut and fit. I've only seen one Vanouver ad which say's "no black gentlemen please," which is good so she doesn't waste anyones time.

 

[take8easy]

It isn't a PROBLEM...most of my 'brown' friends tell me I am the brownest white woman they have ever met. I speak more Punjabi than some of them too. I'd rather eat naan than I have repeatedly explained why I do not see men at my Surrey incall whose ethnic & cultural background originates in India or Pakistan. Call it what it is...cultural, not race. It has nothing to do with smell or hygiene. It has EVERYTHING to do with respect, including you respecting my past. It also has to do with people respecting my choices, and reading between the lines when there are lines that can be read...For example, I have told many gentlemen who inquire that I will consider seeing them, but not at my Surrey in-call. In fact, I am fairly certain I have told YOU that, take8easy, in PM. At least once.

For several very precise reasons, which I'd happily explain in person, I do not allow people to dictate any of my restrictions to me. My pussy, my rules.

Indeed Ms Erica. I fully respect that. I don't want to go to a business that doesn't want me. I never considered u racist. May be it didn't sound right in my comments. In fact I was defending you. No hard feelings at all gorgeous. Yes, I also appreciate u communicating to me via pm. I may not b able to c u as u suggested, but I ll keep my option open.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Indeed Ms Erica. I fully respect that. I don't want to go to a business that doesn't want me. I never considered u racist. May be it didn't sound right in my comments. In fact I was defending you. No hard feelings at all gorgeous. Yes, I also appreciate u communicating to me via pm. I may not b able to c u as u suggested, but I ll keep my option open.

Thank you for allowing me to clear that up for anyone else who might have been wondering! :nod:

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

There it is !
I've felt that way from day ONE

would make a great bumper sticker > sarcasm <

How about one of those vinyl wall decals in a fancy font to apply to the wall over the bed in the Fuck Den...

Something like
My Pussy...My Rules[/FONT]

You know, subtle. Like me.

 

[take8easy]

anyway as far as a recommendation goes, Riza 6801 in richmond is very accommodating , she is Filipino, and mature.

I second that. I saw her exactly a week ago. She was not racist at all towards me. lol . I mean she is a sweet, mature, sexy woman (of Asian, Filipino descent).

 

[McDiver]

Some ladies have rules of not seeing guys younger than a certain age and some don't see guys over a certain age. These rules are no different to what is being discussed here. I think it is better knowing the rules upfront rather than ending up with a lady that is not comfortable with you because of your age, ethnicity or whatever. She will not enjoy the session and neither will you.

 

[Tpancsalot]

I know it must suck to get lumped in with a bunch of bad eggs due to your skin colour. Well, I guess I don't actually know what that must be like, all I can do is imagine. I'm guessing it's because south asian culture in the lower mainland has a few things against it. Older first generation Men *sometimes*, more so than the native born population, don't have western standards of bathing, and may or may not carry an outdated and misogynistic view of women.

Now younger south-asian Men it's usually a respect thing. I've found that younger south asian Men, who have the money to blow on pooning, to be very arrogant and disrespectful. I think it comes from a culture that with very strong family bonds (something I'm jealous of and is a positive) combined with favouring and spoiling Male children (not a positive at all). This can lead to them growing up in a bubble that's all about them, and not having to deal with any outside social consequences for their actions.

 

[take8easy]

The funny thing is that the person who started this thread never came back to post any further comments. Although he pm'ed me and I gave him a list of women that I have seen just to prove that race doesn't play any part, in my case it never has. WHile booking, none of the SP's ever asked my ethnicity, ever. There is an older SP who wants you to inform her your race, nationality, job, looks, profession...... driver's licence.... and who knows what else. I guess that is her way of filtering out the men she doesn't want to see.

I never thought there will ever be a need to reveal this, but I am south asian and I do fall into that first generation category. Ms. Erica clearly stated her rules and thats cool. (We also had pm exchanges and that made it even more clear for me). Frankly, I almost called her based on her looks and age etc... but then luckily I read bottom of her ad stating she doesn't want to see people falling into my category. If I ever went to see her .. can you picture the moment. lol.

Tpancsalot, I guess you have every right to analyse the issue that you did analyse. But frankly the point is an SP has the right to screen her clients and she does.

I personally never felt that me being brown of Indian descent was an issue with any of the SP's I saw. I also think the same is true about any race, there may be a few exceptions here and there.

Oh wait a minute...something just popped into my head... let me start a new thread about it.

 

[Riza]

anyway as far as a recommendation goes, Riza 6801 in richmond is very accommodating , she is Filipino, and mature.

I second that. I saw her exactly a week ago. She was not racist at all towards me. lol . I mean she is a sweet, mature, sexy woman (of Asian, Filipino descent).

Just wanted to take a minute to thank both dipsett and take8easy, thanks guys, I thoroughly enjoyed our time together. You were both gentlemen and kind to me. I don't want to get into this conversation because everyone has their reasons for clientele they accept and I know Mr. Erica is very caring loving person and definitely not a racist. We all have our limitations and reasons for them.

 

[morementum]

Some ladies have rules of not seeing guys younger than a certain age and some don't see guys over a certain age.

This one always makes me laugh out loud! From escorts who lie about their age (some don't but the some are few and far between) thinking they now should get truth from guys who know full well they are paying someone who lies - awesome logic!

 

[kperbite]

This one always makes me laugh out loud! From escorts who lie about their age (some don't but the some are few and far between) thinking they now should get truth from guys who know full well they are paying someone who lies - awesome logic!

These people aren't robots - they may very well just prefer having partners in a certain age range, or are tired of the antics of another.

 

[adventurer32]

If only half the Asian SPs spoke and understood the universal pooner language they may tell you how they really feel about ethnicity, age, gender and class.

 

[take8easy]

I'm brown, never had issues about it.

My point, exactly. From what I recall, NONE of the SP's even brought up "what race are you", heck they didn't even ask how old I am.

But again, everyone is different.

Sex is one good FUCKING language, pun intended.

 

[morementum]

These people aren't robots - they may very well just prefer having partners in a certain age range, or are tired of the antics of another.

Didn't say they were - just a bit of a laugh when some 40 something advertising as 25 wants age limits on the guys who pay her to have sex with a 25 year old when they are actually seeing someone who is in their 40's. You clearly don't see the humour in that - I do.

 

[adventurer32]

The jokes are clearly on me, who pays to get bait and switched with someone way older and pretends she doesn't understand you. 2 to 3 years of working with thousands of customers and still can't speak the language? No way!

What foreign SPs doesn't have issues with race anyways? She is about to have sex and have a tongue in her mouth with someone she doesn't know. Different types of cocks all the time...

 

[burcs]

These people aren't robots - they may very well just prefer having partners in a certain age range, or are tired of the antics of another.

This is correct. It'd be stupid to think that they don't have preferred customers. If you're gonna get banged by some dude it might as well be someone you can communicate and/or like.
In response to OP, I assume you're mostly talking about the 'younger' (actually young, or likes to refer to themselves as young) Asian SPs. Yes, there is a stigma around south Asians as you touched on, unfortunate but true. They could personally have had poor experiences in the past, or have a cultural difference (although I don't see this being the case for any SP actually below 30). There's not a lot of 'black' guys around these parts but many Asian SPs will straight up refuse them. Other micros ask for ethnicity (and sometimes even language) ahead of time ... they tell me 'the girls want to know about their customer ahead of time'. You may want to steer clear of places like this.

That being said, I'm also curious as to what your reference for 'good service' is. Comparing Asian and 'white' SPs is like night and day. If you've yet to have a good Asian provider I'm curious as to what the reference is.