Indys are self employed.
Clearly the services you are looking for are best found at a micro; also the expectation that if she doesn't do exactly what you demand she will be fired.
Is this kind of guy worth it to you, SPs?
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Clearly the services you are looking for are best found at a micro; also the expectation that if she doesn't do exactly what you demand she will be fired.
I know the difference between love & like.lmao, thank you very much.
"me love you long time, lenny, you big strong man" Yeah, you betcha they like ya
The question is, stalker, do you?
"And, do you feel lucky, punk? Do ya?"
TTY teletypewriter for the deaf, will work either between two TTYs or goes thru an operator when it is between TTY and standard telephone. I'm sure they've heard it all, & that it has been used before for setting up appts for the deafIf someone was mute and deaf, as long as he can write, and somehow book the appointment.
I would accept that, and there would be no talking. I have actually had many sessions that did not involve talking, because of working in massage parlors. There are many men, that come in that don't speak English. They are still sweet and respectful. Lots of communication and giggling with hand gestures and are still not the kind of sessions, Smoothmover and Lenny want.TTY teletypewriter for the deaf, will work either between two TTYs or goes thru an operator when it is between TTY and standard telephone. I'm sure they've heard it all, & that it has been used before for setting up appts for the deaf
Dear sweet darling Harmony ;
Likewise with a couple Korean ladies that have cum to my place.
Though they did speak a very few English words.
Goodnight & sweet dreams of lenny ;
xoxo
You may find it hard to believe but even the micro asian ladies yearn for conversation and developing a rapport just like the indy's. But there is a language barrier so they don't have a choice. Most are either older or here short term so they don't have the luxury time nor confidence to learn, manage things on their own and develop a loyal cliental at a higher price point like Indy's.
As for pooners who enjoy mute sessions, I believe they are an exception rather than the rule. But then again I haven't done a scientific poll. I just can't imagine any SP from Asia or North America would truthfully be comfortable and happy with such a session. But from the mute pooners perspective they really don't give a dam which really demeans the girls into just a fuck object...which I personally find distasteful.
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Personally, I am a GFE guy. LFK/DFK, and conversations. But let's not slam people who have a different fantasy. Judging by their (lenny, smoothmover etc.) writing (not a very scientific analysis, I agree), it doesn't look like they are in general disrespectful towards women or people. They fantasize session of a particular type, why slam them for it?
I'm stating my personal opinion based on what has been written. Are they beastly assholes? NO. For all i know they could be cute cuddly sweet hearts during their silent tango.
The key arguement is why don't sps just do as their paid and just shut da fak up. Well it's a highly human and personal business not a inanimate transaction from SP point of view. The fact the mute pooners don't see it that way I find distasteful. That in itself is an indicator for me on how they view a sp.Also writing style does not demonstrate good or bad personality and character. There are articulate and sophisticated assholes who present one side and show another. I knew a few posters on another board who were veteran esteem pooners with 1000s of post who were articulate, witty, fair and balance in their reviews but there was a dark ugly side to them that no one knew on how they treated some sps.
And I'm opened to be slammed back. Aint this a discussion forum?
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My point was let's not label these people 'distasteful' simply because they expressed a fantasy that is not same as yours or mine. For example, I don't see why a lot of guys like to COF. I did it once (Dasha) and I didn't find anything remotely exciting about it. But I understand some (well, a lot of) guys like it and I don't label them distasteful simply because I've a different taste.I'm stating my personal opinion based on what has been written. Are they beastly assholes? NO. For all i know they could be cute cuddly sweet hearts during their silent tango.
Also writing style does not demonstrate good or bad personality and character. There are articulate and sophisticated assholes who present one side and show another. I knew a few posters on another board who were veteran esteem pooners with 1000s of post who were articulate, witty, fair and balance in their reviews but there was a dark ugly side to them that no one knew on how they treated some sps.
And I'm opened to be slammed back. Aint this a discussion forum?
If you aren't labeling 'them' distasteful and simply expressing that 'you' find it distasteful, then my apologies, I misunderstood you.
Admittedly, writing style is just one of several predictors of personality and/or character. I am neither claiming they are cute/cuddly nor claiming that they are beastly. They have NOT been disrespectful so far and that's all I am pointing out.
Yes, it's a discussion forum and I am glad you are open to being slammed back.
I believe mute sessions mostly exist in the dream world or in the movies,
or in a very tiny percentage of sessions with SPs, like one in a million,
maybe. Even though a much larger percentage of guys would probably
be into this, in practice they don't get it due to a number of reasons,
such as they don't ask {i never have}, are afraid to because of a fear
of reactions such as seen in this thread, or it may make the SP give a
poorer service, or they just couldn't be bothered and play the obligatory
5 minute chit chat game, so they can get on to what they really came
there for. Others are genuinely into the talk to assure the SP, or for
whatever reason. Yet others may seem to be genuine but they are self
trained actors who have played the game a long time with many women,
and may also feel if they do well at this point it will mean better sex for
them momentarily. The SP would never know who is real or not, but it
doesn't matter as long as she feels that he is. So acting lessons can
be a benefit in pooning, if one has an inclination for deception to get
what one wants, or even just to make the SP feel better. Another
approach to get on to the good stuff would be to tell the SP you've
had a hard day at work, your brain is fried, & you don't feel much
like conversation, but instead a quiet time together, maybe with some
relaxing music. I think many times it would be the truth as well.
What happened to the rest of the world ;
I don't see why not, especially if she (1} had chatted with the guy
already via email, internet, telephone, etc & (2} knew in advance
that he wanted a "fetish" like this & (3} had seen the client before.
BTW, as an aside, the idea of muteness reminds me of some internet
porn i've occasionally cum across (& quickly exited) where the whip lady
has the guys mouth stuffed with a ball or something ;
So you are saying those who would like a session of 100% purely physical
intimacy and sex w/o chit chat {a mute session, as you call it} is
"demeaning the girls into just a fuck object"? But the guy who plays the
game of 5 minute chit chat with her beforehand is not? You might as well
argue that the only guy who isn't "demeaning" her as you describe is the
guy who talks with her for the whole session, or the guy who wines &
dines her for hours like a real GF and then leaves it up to her if she wants
to get intimate with you thereafter. But, then, that would be the same
situation so many guys are in, who aren't getting any at home, and why
they go to SP's in the first place. Do you think guys who play the chit
chat game with girls at bars, beaches & groceries to get them in the
sack for a one night stand are not just looking for sex? Does the guy
who talks for 10% of the session & has sex for the rest treat the SP
like a "demeaned" creature for 90% of the time? Who are you to say
that i "don't give a damn" about the SP because i prefer a certain type
of session? Are you God, or all knowing? Do you know my heart? Do
you know how sensitive, loving, and considerate i can be to her in bed?
No, you have no clue. And i find your remarks not only "distasteful", but
extremely ignorant ; LOL. Have you ever seen an SP? If so i'd love to
hear all about it ; But i suspect you are a church going virgin ;
Look Lenny I only can intepret what is written at face value. I couldn't help but notice every time a critical point is made you start to explain yourself more which lessens the starkness of you original point.
This is what I call back tracking or was it just an innocent error of ommission?
We all know this is a business transaction in the purest sense. Without sounding repetitive...there is real human factor at play here where a SP is engaging in a very personal service. I suspect a SP, from the time they communicate via email /phone to opening the door, she is mentally forming an impression of you via sight, sound and speech. If you take away the speech and sound then she doesn't have much to formulate a sense of safety, comfort and rapport. For you, it's about about getting the sexual carnal lust out. For her, she wants to know if you are mentally sane first before delivering the goods at the level of your expectation. Every time a client walks through that door she doesn't know what's going to happen. It's the subconcious fear of the unknown especially if one had a bad experience. So a itty bitty 5-10 min chat goes along way to making the SP feel comfortable. It's sad when some pooners are worrying and accounting for every minute of value you can extract in exchange for $$s.
The very fact you don't care to acknowledge this makes me conclude your viewpoint as distasteful or should I say a man lacking in a bit of emotional IQ?
This is what I call back tracking or was it just an innocent error of ommission?
We all know this is a business transaction in the purest sense. Without sounding repetitive...there is real human factor at play here where a SP is engaging in a very personal service. I suspect a SP, from the time they communicate via email /phone to opening the door, she is mentally forming an impression of you via sight, sound and speech. If you take away the speech and sound then she doesn't have much to formulate a sense of safety, comfort and rapport. For you, it's about about getting the sexual carnal lust out. For her, she wants to know if you are mentally sane first before delivering the goods at the level of your expectation. Every time a client walks through that door she doesn't know what's going to happen. It's the subconcious fear of the unknown especially if one had a bad experience. So a itty bitty 5-10 min chat goes along way to making the SP feel comfortable. It's sad when some pooners are worrying and accounting for every minute of value you can extract in exchange for $$s.
The very fact you don't care to acknowledge this makes me conclude your viewpoint as distasteful or should I say a man lacking in a bit of emotional IQ?
Look Lenny I only can intepret what is written at face value. I couldn't help but notice every time a critical point is made you start to explain yourself more which lessens the starkness of you original point.
This is what I call back tracking or was it just an innocent error of ommission?
We all know this is a business transaction in the purest sense. Without sounding repetitive...there is real human factor at play here where a SP is engaging in a very personal service. I suspect a SP, from the time they communicate via email /phone to opening the door, she is mentally forming an impression of you via sight, sound and speech. If you take away the speech and sound then she doesn't have much to formulate a sense of safety, comfort and rapport. For you, it's about about getting the sexual carnal lust out. For her, she wants to know if you are mentally sane first before delivering the goods at the level of your expectation. Every time a client walks through that door she doesn't know what's going to happen. It's the subconcious fear of the unknown especially if one had a bad experience. So a itty bitty 5-10 min chat goes along way to making the SP feel comfortable. It's sad when some pooners are worrying and accounting for every minute of value you can extract in exchange for $$s.
The very fact you don't care to acknowledge this makes me conclude your viewpoint as distasteful or should I say a man lacking in a bit of emotional IQ?
You tell em baby.
OK, Lenny's last post was a lot more human and less serial killer than the other posts, lol
That's what serial killers do, they see their victim, as a kind of inanimate object to play with.
When did i ever argue that? Have the SP & client made a contract, inI'm stating my personal opinion based on what has been written. Are they beastly assholes? NO. For all i know they could be cute cuddly sweet hearts during their silent tango.
writing or by word of mouth, that she should not talk at all during the
session? Obviously not, unless this was agreed to beforehand. And if she
is a talkoholic, and just can't help herself, then i just don't see her again.
I can tolerate, sometimes even enjoy, a bit of conversation, but that's
not why i go to see SP's. And i would be happy to forgoe it altogether,
but i doubt that would work for most women in most situations. They
are just not wired that way. Hence the obligatory 5 minute presex chat ;
Kind of like getting your car warmed up in the middle of a snowy winter ;
LOL
The fact is a lot of SPs do get right to the physical with hardly a word,
let alone 5 minutes to "sniff them out & see if they're a bad boy". ;
Just see some of the "confessions" recently in this thread ;
I would suppose, though, if one is working with others in a massage
type of place she might feel more secure and less of a need to sniff
him than a lady who is alone at home. After a first date that could
change, since she is somewhat familiar with the guy.
Then why do so many guys complain in their reviews about ladies who
were so mechanical in the session with them, like they were washing
a car or something? Obviously a lot of SP's treat guys like they are
an ATM machine, not a human being. BTW, that might just be my kind
of SP; she does a physical service for me. Others prefer a kind of GFE,
i.e. a lady who acts more like a real GF, than a gal who performs a
service like cutting your hair or cooking you a BigMac. Though i'm not
saying i wouldn't, at least sometimes, depending on my mood, like a
flirty, giggly, smiling girl who can joke around a bit ; Or even carry
on a brief & intelligent conversation.
There are SP's out there for all different kinds of guys, whether they
want her to bind & whip him, or whatever. Personally, BTW, neither
that or the same in reverse has ever been my cup of tea ;
Why would i want to see something your way when it's not true
about many SP's? Admittedly other SP's are as you say, but then
who was ever saying they weren't?
Therefore I find your comments inaccurate, ignorant, distasteful, &
based upon strawman or imaginary arguments that have no basis in
reality. The mute pooner you talk about exists in your head, not in
this thread.
Oh sweet Harmony, your tone is almost amorous.OK, Lenny's last post was a lot more human and less serial killer than the other posts, lol
Why are you so smoochy with me today ;
Can we do a menage a trois with Miss T. After she cracks
her little red whip, i'll need a soothing massage ;
I know i deserve to be punished ;
I would be so into that!
I think Miss. T, is one of the most interesting (and sexy) people on this board.
There are a few others I like too, like Sexy Nina Leone. I'm sure she has a whip or two, to crack you into shape.
I will then, after they beat you into submission, soothe you, massage you, pamper you, treat you like a king, etc,
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Yo Lenny The more you explain yourself the more insight we have on good ole man Lenny. I was all wrong about you. You are a misunderstood man with a heart of gold buttrussed with a hint of curmudgeon flair and has a specific need to be fulfilled by the plethora of sps offering varying degrees of service.
I'm sure Harmony is just itchin with amor longing to fulfill your needs now after formulating a 360 degree turn around impression on the written words alone.
Please do tell us about the encounter both of YOU! LOL
P.S. Can you please intro me to a hot sp gem to break in a ignorant virgin like moi?
"Why would i want to see something your way when it's not true about many SP's"
Because those mechanical sps who don't typically speak a lick of english you so conveniently point out don't take this "profession" seriously like the indy's on this board. How long do those girls last? You are beginnin to stretch a bit.
The only point I agree with you on is if you explicity state and arrange the condition of NO talking and stressed it's very important to you to having a gratifying experience and she does otherwise then that's wrong on SP's part.
I'm sure Harmony is just itchin with amor longing to fulfill your needs now after formulating a 360 degree turn around impression on the written words alone.
Please do tell us about the encounter both of YOU! LOL
P.S. Can you please intro me to a hot sp gem to break in a ignorant virgin like moi?
"Why would i want to see something your way when it's not true about many SP's"
Because those mechanical sps who don't typically speak a lick of english you so conveniently point out don't take this "profession" seriously like the indy's on this board. How long do those girls last? You are beginnin to stretch a bit.
The only point I agree with you on is if you explicity state and arrange the condition of NO talking and stressed it's very important to you to having a gratifying experience and she does otherwise then that's wrong on SP's part.
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LOL, I wonder who's paddle that was you used on me then, that thing was more like a cricket bat!
Ahh, the sport of Kings.
Thank you Harmony. To be honest, I don't have a sense of humor about lenny anymore. Overall I find his posts disrespectful to women. I also find his too-frequent references to me creepy and 'baiting'. The mods have deleted several of his posts about me deeming them 'inappropriate' so one could conclude that I'm not over-reacting. I try to ignore him and I won't respond to anything he posts from now on (I'm sure he'll have an ugly response to this) but I will make it clear that his comments are unwelcome and I will PM the mods each time I perceive he is baiting.I would be so into that!
I think Miss. T, is one of the most interesting (and sexy) people on this board.
There are a few others I like too, like Sexy Nina Leone. I'm sure she has a whip or two, to crack you into shape.
I will then, after they beat you into submission, soothe you, massage you, pamper you, treat you like a king, etc,
I'm quite comfortable with women.Yes Miss T is most interesting.. and Yes, I actually have several floggers, a couple of paddles, and lots of fun bondage gear too. Don't forget the hook in the ceiling, or the ropes on my bed to tie you to.
And yes, I love treating my clients like royalty as well.
Love you to bits, Harmony! I wonder if you duo?? Sounds like we are on the same page
xoxo
Nina
I would be open to duoing with you, but not with Lenny, unless we tied him to the hook in your ceiling and put one of those harness things on his head with the ball in his mouth, so he can't talk, then we can perform psychology experiments on him, until he is really scared of women. 
