Had anyone seen her? I am intrigued, I have messaged a couple times, being upfront about using an app but offering to confirm on here but no luck.
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Not 100% sure but that sure looks like Holland.
The one full frontal in the alley looks different than I recall but all of the other pics are very much like her, even without face pics. Also the age is right. She's been around for over 15 years.
When she first started out her looks and service would rival anyone. Then things dropped off dramatically. Last saw her 6-7 years ago and couldn't get out of therre fast enough.
Do a search and you'll find info on her..
My text was certainly not argumentative, it was honest and polite. Also I have seen other SPs who say the same thing but when you are honest and respectful they sometimes make an exception. If all you have to contribute is lecture based no facts then don’t bother responding.
Thank you! I thought some pics looked familiar, it’s info like this that makes grateful for the board!
if you scroll down to bottom of add , you will see her e mail. it’s
so id say it’s holland acting as Ireland . just another country ??
so id say it’s holland acting as Ireland . just another country ??
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It’s definitely Holland. I’ve seen her, but not recently. It was a good experience. I found her to be attractive and personable. I would recommend her based on that experience. Others feel differently.
Totally agree she has always been a go to for me and one of my favs due to the connection I have with her. I also know the location is safe, clean and there is no danger of being robbed. At least for me she is also dressed to the 9’s. Maybe because I treat her respectfully, I get treated a little special???
As always YMMV, treat a woman as a whore and she will treat you as a “John”
I hate posting negative reviews but after seeing the positives I had to.
I saw Holland once a few years ago because I believed the hype posted by her white knights. Back then she had a few eager supporters and many detractors, just like we see here. A few missed appointments should have given me a hint but nope, kept trying.
She put ZERO effort into the session. Absolutely ZERO.
She had no make up on. Her hair hadn't seen a brush in days.
She had basic white panties and a wife beater shirt that might have been left behind by the last guy. No socks or shoes.
All through the session she talked about how much she hated doing this. How badly she needed money. How it sucked being broke. How she was only doing this because she had to. She was coughing and had a cold.
It was the most miserable session I have ever been in. Left halfway through because I could not take any more of her whining.
It would be easy to say, oh, she was just having a bad day, but there are so many similar stories. She isn't having a bad day, she is just lazy, entitled, likes feeling sorry for herself, and doesn't give a shit.
Maybe she manipulates her supporters by giving them a guilt trip and making them feel sorry for her. Who knows. And don't try that "treat her like a lady" routine I have been with many of the very best touring ladies and had no problems at all. Even got Christmas cards from a few. This is ALL on her.
Truly a shame because she has enormous potential. If someone showed her how to dress and wear makeup she could be gorgeous. But then you'd still have to deal with her shitty attitude.
If she has changed then good for her. But I wouldn't risk it without further credible confirmation.
PS sorry about being preachy in post #2
I saw Holland once a few years ago because I believed the hype posted by her white knights. Back then she had a few eager supporters and many detractors, just like we see here. A few missed appointments should have given me a hint but nope, kept trying.
She put ZERO effort into the session. Absolutely ZERO.
She had no make up on. Her hair hadn't seen a brush in days.
She had basic white panties and a wife beater shirt that might have been left behind by the last guy. No socks or shoes.
All through the session she talked about how much she hated doing this. How badly she needed money. How it sucked being broke. How she was only doing this because she had to. She was coughing and had a cold.
It was the most miserable session I have ever been in. Left halfway through because I could not take any more of her whining.
It would be easy to say, oh, she was just having a bad day, but there are so many similar stories. She isn't having a bad day, she is just lazy, entitled, likes feeling sorry for herself, and doesn't give a shit.
Maybe she manipulates her supporters by giving them a guilt trip and making them feel sorry for her. Who knows. And don't try that "treat her like a lady" routine I have been with many of the very best touring ladies and had no problems at all. Even got Christmas cards from a few. This is ALL on her.
Truly a shame because she has enormous potential. If someone showed her how to dress and wear makeup she could be gorgeous. But then you'd still have to deal with her shitty attitude.
If she has changed then good for her. But I wouldn't risk it without further credible confirmation.
PS sorry about being preachy in post #2
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This is basically a replay of your review of Oct. 2016. I have visited her a couple of times in 2019. I understand your opinion on her effort to look good. I also know her personal situation and this is why I will cut her some slack. When she first entered the business she was younger and had no responsibilities. She took the time and looked really good.
I guess this is where you and I disagree. I know I'm being a hard ass but for me, a provider's personal situation should not enter into the equation when you are paying your hard earned money for her time and services. Am I saying SP's should be robots and can't have a bad day. No I'm not. Am I saying they and not human beings with lives and feelings? Again, absolutely not. Believe me, I've had my share of bad days over my lifetime. But when I am with a client, someone who pays me a lot of their hard earned money to work for them for that hour or day or week, I do not let my personal life creep in and affect my effort. And if one can't be on their A game, which again I do understand, then take the day off.
A few years ago my assistant was going through a hell of a bad divorce. She needs to show up bright and cheery every day. She is the first person my clients encounter. There were days where she could not be that, so I told her it was better for her not to be here and she took the day off.
If I go to Hy's or 529 Wellington, i don't really care if my waiter just found out his wife is having an affair or his kid just wrecked his fully restored '69 Corvette. i want great service and great steak.
If she is having problems in her personal life, then I really hope that as a fellow human being, she can find a way out of these and her world gets better.
But if I'm paying her $300/hr, I expect her to be worth it, no excuses.
If this makes me an uncaring jerk, then so be it.
Cheers,
J
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