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I'm baffled by men who don't care about meeting women or having sex

LM987

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Thanks for the input guys. As far as these guys go...one major detail that I forgot to include is that both these men are virgins and likely never kissed a girl. Although I know one has been on a few dates. That's a much different scenario than guys who have dated girls and had sex... and then got too busy or sick of dating.
In that case, you need to spring for them to get a BJ from one of the lovely SP's around here. That would surely peak their interest.
 

Elmore

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Thanks for the input guys. As far as these guys go...one major detail that I forgot to include is that both these men are virgins and likely never kissed a girl. Although I know one has been on a few dates. That's a much different scenario than guys who have dated girls and had sex... and then got too busy or sick of dating.
More and more young guys have low T levels and virtually no libido. No exercise and poor diet as eell as bad sleep habits are a big factor. This is a generational thing imo and it's going in the wrong direction.
 

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no worries there ,most women love a good "Tampon" especially if he is not gay makes him like a BGF only better!!! ;)

IMHO I thank god the whole world is not made up of human beings with all the same proclivities.... variety is my spice of like !!!
yea thanks babe but point here is that even though some women dont mind the tamponess in men, the guys r just indifferent towards women.
 

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More and more young guys have low T levels and virtually no libido. No exercise and poor diet as eell as bad sleep habits are a big factor. This is a generational thing imo and it's going in the wrong direction.
My bank account is crying out for me to have a low testosterone level. Lol!!
There's something called the "good ol' days effect", where people always think the current (and usually, the immediate junior to their own generation) is doomed, spoiled and headed to hell in a handbasket (do people still say that??).

Look it up, it's interesting :p

I, for one, am thankful for the next generation because I am slowly being outdated by technology.. I just found out via a go worker that Tinder requires a subscription. He looked at me as if I am a dinosaur (I'm mid 30's dammit!!).

But all the people I know, have a pretty high sex drive.. Maybe it's related my industry??
 

vanperb

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Does anyone else know people like this? Maybe you can help me make sense of it, haha.:confused:
After 30, the attractivness rating of both men and women decline steadiily. By that time they're usually divorced with a kid or two in tow, you know, all the things you want to have in a partner to build a life with.
Then there's Vancouver, where someone might commit themselves to being a lifelong bachelor/ette after one too many flake outs, put downs, or poorly assessed sugar daddying. People in this city are too self involved to care about relationships, or have been burned too many times because of the previous statement to want to try again.

There are reasons why most of us are here.
 

agentman

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Another factor that comes into play is that society is changing. 25 to 30 years ago there were subtle but strong influences by the community and church to socialize more and nudge singles into dating, then marriage and kids. If you did not follow the preconceived path, you were considered antisocial. But now the influence by the community and church has greatly diminished; less of a herd mentality. People are more open and free to pursue their own lifestyles, which i think is just fine.
 

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After 30, the attractivness rating of both men and women decline steadiily. By that time they're usually divorced with a kid or two in tow, you know, all the things you want to have in a partner to build a life with.
Then there's Vancouver, where someone might commit themselves to being a lifelong bachelor/ette after one too many flake outs, put downs, or poorly assessed sugar daddying. People in this city are too self involved to care about relationships, or have been burned too many times because of the previous statement to want to try again.

There are reasons why most of us are here.

That's a sobering assessment of Vancouver in today's day and age.

I'm still not quite sure of the relation between the addiction to arousal and the educational development of a male. I agree that arousal addiction is real but I don't know where to find correlation between that and say, grades (although my limited experience with guy who jerks off to 'girlsdoporn' twice a day may prove me wrong). I also hate that any numbers of ADHD is being used at all because it's a relatively new diagnosis that's being the rage these days, where as there's likely to be tons of undiagnosed cases in the past. I would throw anything I hear about ADHD in that context out the window.

We have to be careful not to lump in the 'herbivore men' with the kind of guys that OP is talking about. Between him and the guys that yvr_hacker is talking about (or even self-proclaimed by JonnyBoi), there are 'otherwise' perfectly capable males who decline intimacy for various reasons. The 'herbivore men' seem to lack ambition and drive in comparison with the average male, in their cases I would say the lack of wanting intimacy is a symptom of a 'herbivore man' and not a cause.
 

clu

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I'm baffled a guy would care if other guys aren't into women/sex. Are you lamenting that you don't have enough competition? :p
 

SkinnyJohn

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There's nothing baffling about this at all. You said it yourself that these men aren't what women consider attractive. Throw in their age and decades of rejection and loneliness, why would they even bother to keep on trying?

But again we don't know their whole story. Maybe they go to see SP's and tallied up over hundreds of women. Maybe they've tried dating sites/social functions and just can't get a date. Maybe they have low sex drives. Maybe they are possibly gay.

You as a pooner should know anyone can have a private life. They could be Perb members for all we know!
 

sevenofnine

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I really don't get it either to be honest.
I have a few friends, never dated one is a father, but, never was really involved with the mother of his child or the kid, always lived alone.

I go drinking with them on occasion were all older ok in our sixties
they envy me
I sit there all afternoon in a bar, my phone constantly chirps, my wife where am I my kids whats up,

funnier still when my sp texts me and I have two women texting me, and there sitting there and their phone never beeps,
they do envy me,
but they are unable to do anything about, they like there freedom to much, can't live with anyone

neither one of them could even look after a dog, I wouldn't leave my dog with them.

you know I think that is it,
I love my dog he is my best friend, I would do anything for him and its a big responsibility, as well as having family wife, and even an sp your friends with,
its all a responsibility, that can weigh heavy on you at times.


to be perfectly honest, if you can't even have or be responsible to look after a dog, that is why you live alone and not involved with anyone,

some people are just fucking ass holes no one wants to be around them
others, don't want any responsibilities, enjoy there freedom to much or see everyone else as the ass hole.
 

Elmore

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My bank account is crying out for me to have a low testosterone level. Lol!!
There's something called the "good ol' days effect", where people always think the current (and usually, the immediate junior to their own generation) is doomed, spoiled and headed to hell in a handbasket (do people still say that??).

Look it up, it's interesting :p

I, for one, am thankful for the next generation because I am slowly being outdated by technology.. I just found out via a go worker that Tinder requires a subscription. He looked at me as if I am a dinosaur (I'm mid 30's dammit!!).

But all the people I know, have a pretty high sex drive.. Maybe it's related my industry??
My comment about it being generational and going in the wrong direction was strictly related to this thread.

There are too many soft, doughy, fast food eating, exercise hating young guys who have zero sex drive. Viagra isn't just for the 50+ crowd anymore.
 

sevenofnine

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thinking about this,

I believe it has a lot to do with intimacy issues or love issues,
people don't know how to love, or are afraid of to much intimacy,

I mean people are annoying being involved with some one is a pain. a real pain in the ass actually, being responsible for some one or even a pet, ditto

but there are moments of blissful intimacy very deep personal emotional intimacy, or even sexual intimacy at times,, that make it all worth wild.
I would venture to guess, that people don't know how to love or afraid of intimacy,

some psychological fuck up somewhere.
 

J-Dogg

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sounds like internet dating 101 in Vancouver , All I have heard since moving back to to vancouver in 2010 is how this city sucks for dating
the older guys are dating the young chicks and the cougars can either date the pups or be alone :( its pretty bleak out there

But then have always found it is easier to meet men if you go to where they are looking for women .... ei here :)
It's definitely a cultural thing here....In places like Cairns/Melbourne or Toronto/GTA people are way more open to talk to. Maybe it's the weather but everyone seems to be staying in their cliques
 

hankmoody

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There have always been the oddballs, the socially awkward and the indifferent, but it is much much worse now because there are so many isolating distractions.

We barely have to leave home to get food, we mostly communicate through gadgets, we can have circles of friends we never actually meet or interact with beyond gaming, emails, texts, message boards or phone calls.

There is also the stress of having to always be on call for work, and put in crazy-long hours when there.

Through advertising we're told we have to be perfect to be successful with women - be rich, wear the right clothes, have the right grooming, put on the right scent, say witty things or have the right car. From porn we're shown we have to be ready and able to have sex any time, any where, have a nine inch schlong and do it multiple times in a row. A number of SP's have commented to me on how many guys in their 20's and 30's who can't even get it up, or are using Viagra to perform.

It's just a whole lot easier never to jump into the pool for a lot of guys.
That would cover quite a few i suspect.
 

agentman

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The single people i do know don't even date. Does anyone still date anymore? Has it become an antiquated/obsolete ritual?
 

deathreborn

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I agree.

And sometimes some of these young guys still do have a sex drive.. but are unable to perform. Viagra use in young men is nothing more than a temporary bandaid solution.. all it does is kick the can down the road to more severe erectile dysfunction.

Older men + Viagra..IMO that's ok, as long as it's Dr prescribed.
screw the prescription. there's sources online where you can get liquid cialis, viagra or levitra. 25-30 doses of 50mg for $30-40 US. why get ripped off by the pharma companies.

as for the dating question. put me in the category of having no interest in dating women from the lower mainland. to expensive, to self absorbed to be bothered with. if i have the urge SP's fill the need. I could date locally if i wanted to as looks and shape are not a problem. i do date if i go out of town, especially to the states. american women are much more down to earth. was in orlando a couple months ago. first night there had 3 potential ladies. picked one and ended up seeing her for the whole week i was there. had lots of fun. of course there's a hell of a lot more to do in orlando then in lame vancouver.
 
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