IHIT Public Advisory - Warning for Sex Workers- 2 women dead...

[google_123]

looks like news outlets have found their ads already.
Looks like Nik is going to have alot of traffic.

On a side note, I don't want to make conclusions but the fact that they were in the same building and knew each other, that alone tells me there's a connection.
Maybe the individual responsible was involved/connected with the two ladies, as they were friends.

The chance that a serial killer came upon these two, that were in the same building/knew each other/etc

I just don't believe in coincidences.

 

[mimi]

This fellow could have been a well known client to them both.

About two or three years ago an escort I knew told me of a bad incident with an otherwise nice regular. One day, he made an appointment, like usual, but when he arrived he walked into her apartment, closed all the windows and curtains and locked the door and proceeded to beat the crap out of her. She said she was lucky she was pretty strong and she could protect herself for the most part, but she was badly bruised.

He was a long time poster on perb, too.

She left the industry after that as she couldn't trust anyone again.

So, this fellow who harmed these ladies could've been someone they had been seeing for a while who knew their habits and level of safety.

 

[google_123]

Exactly, he probably became familiar with them. Which is why the 2nd victim was unsuspecting. I mean, she knew her friend was dead around the 12th? of August. Her guard and screening must have been extra vigilant.

And to your story mimi, that is sickening. I guess no one really knows what goes on in someone's mind. Think I read about that story as well, and he's been released too if it's the individual in question. :s

 

[mimi]

The lady I am speaking of never reported the incident. She was feeling vulnerable due to some attacks on her weight, she was a bbw, and although she was beautiful and gave good service, people felt it necessary to belittle her due to her size. She asked me never to tell who the fellow was, and I respect her decision.

You are most likely correct in your assumption that this perp contacted the lady number two to console her, maybe, figure out if she knew who lady number one had seen lately.

If he was a smart man he would have erased his information from lady number one's phone and read her texts at the same time. Maybe there was correspondence with lady number two? Perhaps he took both cell phone's and ditched them somewhere if he wanted to cover his tracks.

 

[mimi]

The lady I am speaking of never reported the incident. She was feeling vulnerable due to some attacks on her weight, she was a bbw, and although she was beautiful and gave good service, people felt it necessary to belittle her due to her size. She asked me never to tell who the fellow was, and I respect her decision.

She was also working out of New West.

You are most likely correct in your assumption that this perp contacted the lady number two to console her, maybe, figure out if she knew who lady number one had seen lately.

If he was a smart man he would have erased his information from lady number one's phone and read her texts at the same time. Maybe there was correspondence with lady number two? Perhaps he took both cell phone's and ditched them somewhere if he wanted to cover his tracks.

 

[mimi]

Sorry about the double post. I got a window that said I had to wait 90 seconds to post it, so I hadn't realized it had already been posted.

Do any of you remember the warning an sp posted about a client who raped her, took the condom of sperm, and the envelope of money he had left on the dresser, with him? He had shaved every hair off his body so he left little DNA at the apartment. She was unable to work for weeks due to the bruising and the fear. He was never caught.

It is important to report and hopefully the new relationship with the VPD will help ladies come forward.

 

[Smilf]

We've got a new system set up, took me a bit to get it going, it's a blank blacklist - meaning NOBODY except myself and a couple of TRUSTED ladies will admin the blacklist, NOBODY knows you are viewing the blacklist in the forum, UNLESS you post on it and you can PM your blacklists to me on the forum and we will add them for you. NOBODY can ever see you online, view your profile, nothing, unless you let them know you are there.

We decided this was the best way to handle a blacklist, due to some ladies previously leaking out information (maybe now they'll think twice about it), to remove any finger pointing at who put someone's info on the blacklist. There is also a section for known violent offenders from VPD with their photos.

IF you want in and I know you and your reputation within the community, just send me a PM.

 

[Ratbert_2008]

I'm sure we're all anxiously waiting for IHIT to release the toxicology and autopsy results. Then we will know what we are dealing with.

I doubt they will release that kind of information. More likely that, as a result of these tests and other factors, they will categorize the deaths as suicide, accidental death, foul play etc. The timing of the release of that information is likely to be related more to their investigation than the desires of the community at large or escorts in particular.

 

[Ratbert_2008]

We've got a new system set up, took me a bit to get it going, it's a blank blacklist - meaning NOBODY except myself and a couple of TRUSTED ladies will admin the blacklist, NOBODY knows you are viewing the blacklist in the forum, UNLESS you post on it and you can PM your blacklists to me on the forum and we will add them for you. NOBODY can ever see you online, view your profile, nothing, unless you let them know you are there.

We decided this was the best way to handle a blacklist, due to some ladies previously leaking out information (maybe now they'll think twice about it), to remove any finger pointing at who put someone's info on the blacklist. There is also a section for known violent offenders from VPD with their photos.

IF you want in and I know you and your reputation within the community, just send me a PM.

Are you able to identify other ladies who can be contacted, or are you the sole contact?

 

[Smilf]

Are you able to identify other ladies who can be contacted, or are you the sole contact?

I'm not able to name any one in that lounge for privacy reasons, which is why I am the only one talking about it.

As I stated earlier, info has been previously leaked out of our ladies lounges, by 4 ladies that we know of and I will not jeopardize this one.

So I hope you understand my reasons.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Everyone seems to have concluded these were two murders.

Nothing has confirmed that yet.

Why not wait until there's something definite?

 

[Hibiscus2]

please include me

hi this is lady kayla I would like to be in on the REPORT lounge please diamond.2424@yahoo.com

 

[busty_blonde_vip]

Lol if there was a like button. I couldnt help but screen my clients excessively today, and they get up set. Well I wonder.

 

[busty_blonde_vip]

Lol if there was a like button. I couldnt help but screen my clients excessively today, and they get up set. Well I wonder.

 

[Smilf]

hi this is lady kayla I would like to be in on the REPORT lounge please diamond.2424@yahoo.com

You need to PM me

 

[susi]

they keep saying "high risk lifestyle"... fuck......for me it complicates the situation. now it really appears to be someone who targeted them.....

 

[Ratbert_2008]

now it really appears to be someone who targeted them.....

Please explain.

If anything, "inconclusive" suggests to me that there is not an obvious cause, such as use of a weapon.

 

[susi]

well, we have been discussing the possiblity that someone drugged them/ ruffie....thus the warning in this thread not to drink or eat anything that a client especially a new client brings. there was a serial killer here in vancouver that killed his victim's, female sex workers, with booze. he raped and force fed them alcohol until they died. he did it numerous times.

it's hard to not know what happened is what it boils down to. i can imagine all kinds of terrible things....

the fact that both are now deemed inconclusive seems to lead to a pattern more tha simplifying the circumstances....

does that make sense?

 

[Smilf]

Please explain.

If anything, "inconclusive" suggests to me that there is not an obvious cause, such as use of a weapon.

Hey Ratbert,

Usually when something like this happens it is done by someone both ladies knew, someone suggested elsewhere today, that maybe the first lady was drugged to OD state and maybe said person was a "trusted client, confident etc (something of that nature), went to the second ladies condo to "console her" and did the same to her .. does that make sense?

Definitely a lot of specualtion, but we have no reason to think they are not interconnected just as much as they may not be either.

IF weapons or street drugs were used, we probably would've heard that by now... but we haven't however it doesn't mean other things are not related.

 

[mimi]

Well, Anita, understanding why women who escort don't come forward to report crimes against them would go a long way in finding a solution to overcoming that problem.

You have a lot of self confidence and you are able to stand up for yourself. You would probably not have issues dealing with LE, either. A woman whose self esteem has taken a beating, and then experiences an assault has a different reaction.

Some women may feel they are opening themselves to judgement and exposing themselves to more hurt by being doubted or ignored. They may not want police to connect their personal names with their working names.

Funny, how we can have a very firm idea of what we would do in a given situation...we may even go through the scenario in our minds, but, when the situation actually arises we may react in a totally different way.